2007 Pro Football Hall of Fame Finalists
 

[url=http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/story.jsp?story_id=2285]Class of 2007 to be selected from list of finalists - Pro Football Hall of Fame[/url]


There are 17 names on this list. IMO none deserve it more than Art Monk. If you were a voter, who would be YOUR class of 2007?

Mine are:
1.Monk
2.Mathews
3.T.Thomas
4.D.Thomas

I think it would be a slap in the face of Monk if Irvin made it in before. I don't even want him to get in the same year as Monk but I could probably live with that.

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How sweet would it be for Grimm and Monk to make it in together?

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My class is:

Guy
Tags
Irvin

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Gotta think this is Monk's best chance. I mean who the hell else on that list even really has anywhere near as good an argument?

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.....no Monk Irish????

And why doesn't Tags have to wait 5 years like everybody else?

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Non players don't have to wait.

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[QUOTE=gibbsisgod;269142].....no Monk Irish????

And why doesn't Tags have to wait 5 years like everybody else?[/QUOTE]

I just dont think Monk is a HOFer. He was a good receiver but not HOF caliber.

I dont understand why Tags does not have to wait but I assume its because he was not a player.

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Monk
Dent
Reed
T. Thomas

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Guy
Monk
Tagliabue
Wehrli

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[quote=irish;269144]I just dont think Monk is a HOFer. He was a good receiver but not HOF caliber.

.[/quote]That definetly put you in the minority on this board.

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Monk gets in this year. See you guys in Canton!

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I'll most definitely be there.

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1- Monk
2- Grimm
3- Dent
4- Matthews
5- Reed
6- D. Thomas
7- T. Thomas

Grimm might be the only one not as deserving, but of course I gave him the heart pick. Take away Grimm, I'd still vote for all 6 of them.

Irish...why would you not vote for Monk? He was THE best receiver in NFL history when he retired.

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Because irish has a Mogwai living up his ass begging for some water.

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[QUOTE=irish;269144]I just dont think Monk is a HOFer. He was a good receiver but not HOF caliber.[/QUOTE]

Wow. Leading WR when he retired and held the consecutive game streak. Wonder what a HOFer looks like.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;269179]Because irish has a Mogwai living up his ass begging for some water.[/QUOTE]

I am just concerned with his reasoning. He can have his own thoughts, and he doesn't have to agree with...well, 99.9% of Skins fans (yeah, he's likely the 1 that makes the percentage under 100%). I just want to know why.

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Green is eligible next year right? I'll be going if he, monk, or grimm make it in the coming years.

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Perhaps irish is DR.Z in disguise!

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Monk gets in and I'm there as well!

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[quote=gibbsisgod;269206]Perhaps irish is DR.Z in disguise![/quote]

That for some reason reminded me that sally jenkins is a bitch. She hasn't wrote a story in a while.....


Bitch.

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if guy gets in, is he the first punter/ kicker? and no way monk doesnt get in. and does that mean the skins will play in the hall of fame game?

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Here is what could hurt Art Monk's chances.

If - I said IF - the voters want to induct only one WR, then Andre Reed has better numbers than Monk across the board.

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon;269234]Here is what could hurt Art Monk's chances.

If - I said IF - the voters want to induct only one WR, then Andre Reed has better numbers than Monk across the board.[/QUOTE]

Former Redskin Andre Reed!

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Monk
Tag
D. Thomas
Mathews

Monk has better #s than any rec in Hall

Irish?...Young Frankenstein called. He wants Abby Normal back.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;269177]1- Monk
2- Grimm
3- Dent
4- Matthews
5- Reed
6- D. Thomas
7- T. Thomas

Grimm might be the only one not as deserving, but of course I gave him the heart pick. Take away Grimm, I'd still vote for all 6 of them.

Irish...why would you not vote for Monk? He was THE best receiver in NFL history when he retired.[/QUOTE]

I think when you look at his numbers now they just dont look like HOF numbers. I know he held those records when he retired but its obvious they were not good enough for induction back when he was 1st eligible and now these many years later they just dont make it. Someone mentioned Andre Reed having numbers better than Monk. Well IMO there is no way AR is a HOFer so if he isnt then there is no way Monk can go in. Like I said, he was a very good receiver but just not quite HOF material.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;269229]if guy gets in, is he the first punter/ kicker? and no way monk doesnt get in. and does that mean the skins will play in the hall of fame game?[/QUOTE]

No, two I can think of are Jan Stenerud, kicked forever for the Chiefs, and George Blanda, who didnt start his career as a kicker but finished it that way as a Raider.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;269234]Here is what could hurt Art Monk's chances.

If - I said IF - the voters want to induct only one WR, then Andre Reed has better numbers than Monk across the board.[/quote]

True. Though I think it's about time they just let him in so that we'll all stop bitching. :D

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I thought most voters already have Reed scratched off their lists?

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Id love to go to but looking at the prices for a ticket, not sure i can make it at $150. for the enshrinement ceremony. Who knows tho. Monk gets in this year!

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[quote=FRPLG;269182]Wow. Leading WR when he retired and held the consecutive game streak. Wonder what a HOFer looks like.[/quote]

did you actually see him play,or did you let your seeing eye dog tell you the moves he was making?

my HOF PICKS
1-monk
2-russ grimm
3-thurman thomas
4-mike"8 ball"irvan
5-former comissioner tagliabuge
(derrick thomas mat make it in because
his death is still a recent memory-2000 was'nt it?)
if 8BALL Irvin makes it in before monk
than the voting process is complete and
utter horseshit.)

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Us members here on the board that have a "4" beginning their age have probably watched Monk play more. I was 15 when Art was drafted. I watched his whole career and have NO doubts that he belongs in the Hall. And it isn't just Redskin fans that think he belongs. Watch the GREAT video that is floating around here. MOST ex-players and coaches think he belongs. But, as always, everyone has an opinion.
Just for shits and giggles, take a look at some of the receivers currently in the Hall and then tell me Art doesn't belong.
Dallas Sucks!
Go Skins, '07 -'08

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Good point just brought out on Redskins lunch. Why are there no Hogs in the HOF? Best O-line ever? Who does not know them? How can that be???Grimm might change that, but?????????????
#1313

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1. Monk
2. Matthews
3. Tagliabue
4. Grimm
5. Thurm Thomas

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[quote=dblanch66;269355]Us members here on the board that have a "4" beginning their age have probably watched Monk play more. I was 15 when Art was drafted. I watched his whole career and have NO doubts that he belongs in the Hall. And it isn't just Redskin fans that think he belongs. Watch the GREAT video that is floating around here. MOST ex-players and coaches think he belongs. But, as always, everyone has an opinion.
Just for shits and giggles, take a look at some of the receivers currently in the Hall and then tell me Art doesn't belong.
Dallas Sucks!
Go Skins, '07 -'08[/quote]

Well, I dont have a '4' in front my age, but I'm close enough:) Yes, the Monk era was something to see and behold. The one thing that really sticks out to me about his career, is that he was very graceful for a big guy. And he was money in the clutch and over the middle.

I was actually convinced, at the time, he would have been a first ballot vote.

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[quote=TAFKAS;269271]Former Redskin Andre Reed![/quote]
Ha, I didn't even remember that we had him. After I looked up his stats for 2000 and saw he had an incredible 10 receptions for us...I remembered. :D

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[QUOTE=irish;269291]I think when you look at his numbers now they just dont look like HOF numbers. I know he held those records when he retired but its obvious they were not good enough for induction back when he was 1st eligible and now these many years later they just dont make it. Someone mentioned Andre Reed having numbers better than Monk. Well IMO there is no way AR is a HOFer so if he isnt then there is no way Monk can go in. Like I said, he was a very good receiver but just not quite HOF material.[/QUOTE]

If you look at it from THAT standpoint, then there would hardly ever be anyone in the Hall of Fame. You can't compare today's numbers to those during Monks' time. You have to think of it from the stand point of what was considered great amongst WRs in the league back in the 80's and early 90's.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;269377]If you look at it from THAT standpoint, then there would hardly ever be anyone in the Hall of Fame. You can't compare today's numbers to those during Monks' time. You have to think of it from the stand point of what was considered great amongst WRs in the league back in the 80's and early 90's.[/QUOTE]

He retired in 1995 so he was eligible in 2000 and apparently his numbers were not deemed good enough then or anytime since, now its 2007 and they just dont seem HOF worthy anymore. I think thats part of the rationale for the 5 year wait, to see if a players numbers hold up and for whatever reason it appears that Monk's didnt.

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[QUOTE=Hog1;269367]Good point just brought out on Redskins lunch. Why are there no Hogs in the HOF? Best O-line ever? Who does not know them? How can that be???Grimm might change that, but?????????????
#1313[/QUOTE]

I've always wondered that too. I guess the only reason I can think of is if you vote in, you've got to vote them all in (plus Lachey...and maybe even McKenzie) but the NFL is not about to vote in 7 linemen (LINEMEN!) from the Redskins

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I swear to god if they are gonna put in that crackhead Irvin in before Monk I am gonna go crazy.

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That 3rd down catch against Denver in the Super Bowl was the reason the Skins won. Sure, the 2nd quarter was huge, but if Monk doesn't make a play on that ball on like...3rd and 17 from the Redskin 11 yard line, we punt and Denver has the ball AND momentum. Biggest game turning play. It's a case of 'out of sight, out of mind'. If he were playing today, he'd STILL be one of the top receivers in the league. Name ONE receiver better than Monk that is playing today. Don't say Harrison, 'cause he isn't 'better'.