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skinsfan69 01-10-2007 06:07 PM

What about Kurt Warner to back up Jason Campbell?
 
I think bringing in Warner as a back-up would be a good move. Not sure what his contract situation is, or if he's willing to accept a back-up role. But I think he would be an upgrade over Brunell and Collins. He already knows the offense. I'm sure Gibbs wouldn't go for it since Kurt is a little loose with the ball. Comments?

steveo395 01-10-2007 06:09 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
He fumbles too much and I don't think he wants to be a backup.

LMsexyAO 01-10-2007 06:26 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
I think we should try to go one offseason without bringing in a brand new QB.. but pending Brunell's recovery I suppose this will need to be re-evaluated.. later..

SmootSmack 01-10-2007 06:36 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
I had thought about it, but I'd rather go younger

GoSkins! 01-10-2007 06:45 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
I think that it would be a good move. I can't think of a better way to make the transition to Saunders offense go smoother. With our o-line and running back situation, I think that a guy like Warner could thrive. Money is the real concern right now. Brunell makes way to much to be the backup, coming off major shoulder surgery. I love the guy, but I don't see keeping him as a good business decision.

Do we draft a guy with a late round pick and trust Collins as the backup or do we go after a guy like Warner believing that we are Superbowl bound again next year?

dmek25 01-10-2007 07:00 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
[quote=steveo395;269217]He fumbles too much and I don't think he wants to be a backup.[/quote]
i agree. and last year in preseason, collins got better and better. and already knows the system. and is cheap. and hopefully will not have to play a down

Riggo44 01-10-2007 07:03 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
Yea right, Warner has been like a deer in the headlights for over 4 years now. There is nothing He could bring to the team at this point. But why where at it Vinny Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe will be available this off-season. Why not sign them? I heard Dave Krieg wants to come out of retirement and play one more year maybe he could back up J.C. Because we all know Gibbs likes veteran QB's.:)

sportscurmudgeon 01-10-2007 07:22 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
Assuming Brunell recovers from surgery and returns to his 2006 form, you might as well keep him here. Warner isn't an upgrade over a healthy Brunell.

Now if you want to upgrade at that slot, you don't want either guy here. Their days of glory are in the rear view mirror.

wilsowilso 01-10-2007 07:31 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
Mr. Cerrato is that you? Should we shell out an eight million dollar signing bonus and trade our 5th and 6th round picks for him? I would think any washed up QB on the market would give Redskin fans the serious heebie jeebies.

Pocket$ $traight 01-10-2007 07:33 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
[quote=Riggo44;269226]Yea right, Warner has been like a deer in the headlights for over 4 years now. There is nothing He could bring to the team at this point. But why where at it Vinny Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe will be available this off-season. Why not sign them? I heard Dave Krieg wants to come out of retirement and play one more year maybe he could back up J.C. Because we all know Gibbs likes veteran QB's.:)[/quote]


I don't think that "deer in the headlights" have two 1400 yard receivers. This is a very intriguing idea if he will sign for the minimum.

celts32 01-10-2007 07:41 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
Honestly, we don't even need Brunell...Collins can be the veteran backup. Typically your #3 QB should be an inexpensive young player. If Brunell is healthy enough and wants to restructure to be the #2 then fine, but no Kurt Warner's or other aging QB's are needed.

Riggo44 01-10-2007 07:48 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;269243]I don't think that "deer in the headlights" have two 1400 yard receivers. This is a very intriguing idea if he will sign for the minimum.[/QUOTE]

It’s not very intriguing to me. Every team the guy is on sucks! If you put any pressure on him he's just awful.

#56fanatic 01-10-2007 07:48 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
[quote=GoSkins!;269221]I think that it would be a good move. I can't think of a better way to make the transition to Saunders offense go smoother. With our o-line and running back situation, I think that a guy like Warner could thrive. Money is the real concern right now. Brunell makes way to much to be the backup, coming off major shoulder surgery. I love the guy, but I don't see keeping him as a good business decision.

Do we draft a guy with a late round pick and trust Collins as the backup or do we go after a guy like Warner believing that we are Superbowl bound again next year?[/quote]


what are you talking about?? I dont hear Campbells name any where in this statement. JC is the man, will be the man. Warner is the answer as much as Brunell is. Our QB situation is just fine. If Brunell isn't there, Collins is just as serviceable as anyone we can sign off the street. Warner,, I almost fell down laughing.

GoSkins! 01-10-2007 08:36 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
[quote=#56fanatic;269249]what are you talking about?? I dont hear Campbells name any where in this statement. JC is the man, will be the man. Warner is the answer as much as Brunell is. Our QB situation is just fine. If Brunell isn't there, Collins is just as serviceable as anyone we can sign off the street. Warner,, I almost fell down laughing.[/quote]

I guess I thought it went without saying that Campbell is our #1 guy. I was specifically speaking about depth and who would I most like to see come off the bench if Campbell went down and we needed to win.

Other than Saunders, I don't know anyone who thought that Collins would be effective off the bench. Warner, with our running game, and his agressive passing, could work better than the Brunell experiment. My question is Warner at #2 or a rookie at #3?

ncskinsfanec 01-10-2007 10:12 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
I wouldn't mind seeing Brunell retire to save some salary cap space if possible. Collins is a servicable backup, and hopefully he would work if needed.

Master4Caster 01-10-2007 10:14 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
Warner isn't an upgrade over Brunell or Collins. Just another famous name. Familiar with the offense? You mean the Rams offiense of 1999. That was another century. He may be familiar with what Saunders did in St. Louis, but not with the offense developed here.

Unless Brunell is gone, and I don't think coach Joe will let that happen, and unless we sign Warner to the minimum, lets leave this one alone.

jamf 01-11-2007 04:37 AM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
We need a Veteren to play at a moments notice and a Young guy to groom incase the JC experiment goes bad.


We've had some decent young guys on the team the last few years. We need draft someone in the later rounds and make him earn his money.

Think of what holmgren did in Greenbay with a young matt hasselbeck and what he is doing now with seneca wallace.

GoSkins! 01-11-2007 06:45 AM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
[quote=jamf;269276]We need a Veteren to play at a moments notice and a Young guy to groom incase the JC experiment goes bad...[/quote]

I agree. I think that it may be good to let Saunders pick a late round QB to mold. He could go to the practice squad this year and next (if Brunell sticks around).

MTK 01-11-2007 08:22 AM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
Warner?!

Ugh.

No thanks.

BDBohnzie 01-11-2007 08:57 AM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
NOooooooooooooo, they're all going to laugh at you...

There is no reason to bring in a guy who can't hold onto the ball, and folds under pressure. Warner needs to go back to bagging groceries at the Savalot in Podunk, Iowa.

While Brunell may need to be replaced, Warner definitely is not the answer.

firstdown 01-11-2007 10:25 AM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
Brunell knows the O and the WR's which no other back up does. So if he is healthy enough we should just have him restructure his contract and move forward with JC & MB. With MB as backup we should bring in a late round draft pick to groom if needed.

kiyat 01-11-2007 10:51 AM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
I Dont Think There Is Need For Warner. Back Up Qb Should Be Younger. At Least Someone Who Is In The Middle Of His Career. Go Skins!!

12thMan 01-11-2007 11:06 AM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
I don't think bringing in Warner or keeping Brunell is good at this point. Too much risk involved in bringing Brunell back for that kind of money.

Yes, even a restructure isn't worth it. And Warner is fumble prone and he seems a couple of good licks away from an injury himself.

jdlea 01-11-2007 12:31 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;269300]Warner?!

Ugh.

No thanks.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much my sentiments exactly. That and I don't know that I trust Joe Gibbs with another veteran quarterback who used to be decent.

Monkeydad 01-11-2007 12:34 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
Heck no. A rested Brunell will be a LOT better than Warner.

I wouldn't even want him bagging my groceries, he'd fumble my eggs and give my milk to the person in the next lane.

His good years in the grocery business AND football are now behind him.

skinsguy 01-11-2007 12:38 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;269215]I think bringing in Warner as a back-up would be a good move. Not sure what his contract situation is, or if he's willing to accept a back-up role. But I think he would be an upgrade over Brunell and Collins. He already knows the offense. I'm sure Gibbs wouldn't go for it since Kurt is a little loose with the ball. Comments?[/QUOTE]

I don't believe it would be a good move nor an upgrade to Brunell. If anything, we should get another young qb and let him ride the bench like Jason did. Have Collins (gulp) back up JC for the first year anyways.

redsk1 01-11-2007 01:09 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
Noooooooooo Kurt Warner. Fumbles twice every game. Collins is a serviceable backup IF MB isn't here. Should Collins go down we have a great #3, Randel El. I know its not possible but there are worse #3's out there.

skinsfan69 01-11-2007 01:22 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
Whatever happens I hope they end this Brunell saga. It's time to move on.

jsarno 01-11-2007 01:30 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
[QUOTE=celts32;269245]Honestly, we don't even need Brunell...Collins can be the veteran backup. Typically your #3 QB should be an inexpensive young player. If Brunell is healthy enough and wants to restructure to be the #2 then fine, but no Kurt Warner's or other aging QB's are needed.[/QUOTE]

This is a comment that I am surprised I have not heard more of. This is the way we [i]should[/i] go...we won't, but this is how we can set ourselves up for the future. We will end up keeping Brunell, and it's not that bad of an idea due to his knowledge of the Skins at this point, but he is one damn expensive backup. We can save money by cutting him, so I think if I was the GM, I'd cut him and draft a rough around the edges QB and let him sit on the bench for a couple seasons learning.

Monkeydad 01-11-2007 01:34 PM

Re: What about Kurt Warner to back up JC?
 
With as much as Campbell runs, I am not comfortable that we'd be one hit away from Todd Collins being our starter. He doesn't belong on the field for us EVER. He shouldn't even have a helmet, we should just hire him as a playbook consultant. That IS the only reason we signed him anyways.


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