That Guy Presents Freddyg12's First Free Agent Poll
 

Who will be the first (only?) free agent to sign with the Redskins this offseason?

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My guess is Nate Clements will get a huge deal as Redskin One arrives in Buffalo at 12:01am.

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Dockery better the 1st one signed. I really hope they can get it done soon.

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i'd hope dockery gets signed first, since we don't have a pick to spend on OL.

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Dockery, because we can sign him now. Every other guy on that list, we have to wait til March 1st. That's a long time to get something done with Dock.

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I'm naming myself chancellor of the Warpath's official "Jason Dunn to the Redskins posse". Might cost us a late draft pick, maybe a 6th...but it would drasticly help both our running to the edges and pass blocking. Espicially after being forced to watch Christian Fauria last year, a career safety valve forced into being a blocking TE. After about the 3rd hold without a successful block, I had my eye on Dunn.

All aboard?

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[quote=Redskins_P;272172]Dockery better the 1st one signed. I really hope they can get it done soon.[/quote]

Agree. Core guys come first!

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I've got to go with Dock also because he can sign whenever. I really hope that neither the team nor Dockery try to drag their feet on getting him resigned because I could see another team swoop in pretty quick with more money and I don't think he'll be too impressed with Redskins 1.

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He may be the worst player on that list....but I want Dockery back more than anyone else on there.

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Dockery is probably going to wait and see what his market value is - why would it be to his advantage to sign sooner rather than later?

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;272176]Dockery, because we can sign him now. Every other guy on that list, we have to wait til March 1st. That's a long time to get something done with Dock.[/QUOTE]

I would have preferred to have kept Dock off the list for that reason. But That Guy and Freddy threatened me with some pictures they took of me in an incriminating position...let me make this clear, I thought the cop was a prostitute

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[quote=TAFKAS;272188]I would have preferred to have kept Dock off the list for that reason. But That Guy and Freddy threatened me with some pictures they took of me in an incriminating position...let me make this clear, I thought the cop was a prostitute[/quote]hahaha

I would have said Clements, had Dock not been a choice.

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i wouldn't mind jason dunn. i thought fauria would give us that blocking... what a dud (was he injured? or does he just suck now?).

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Dockery and that's it. Or get some cheaper 2nd tier guys. Is it me, or does it seem a lot of the fans have taken into gasing up Redskins One right when free agency starts. Everyone thinks Nate Clemons is the savior. Isn't Buffalo going to try and keep him? I doubt they are just going to let him walk away and not get any compensation. Especially for a top NFL corner. They don't grow on trees. And if getting Clemons requires giving up picks then FORGET IT! Also there will be other teams with more cap room. So over paying for a corner going into his 7th year makes no sense. Fixing the defense may take more than one year and I don't have a problem with trying to draft guys and waiting it out. This team is in transition. It's going to take time. Nate Clemons will be a quick fix on an average to below average NFL team.

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I want Dockery more than anyone on that list. I've already said it and I'll say it again: If we didn't gain a single player this offseason and just were HEALTHY next year, we'd be back in playoff contention.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;272201]I want Dockery more than anyone on that list. I've already said it and I'll say it again. If we didn't gain a single player this offseason and just were HEALTHY next year, we'd be back in playoff contention.[/quote]

I can agree with this, ASSUMING Gibbs continues to assert his philosophy on offense and ASSUMING G Williams figures out what the hell is wrong with our secondary.

Status quo personnel-wise wouldn't be TERRIBLE (wouldn't be ideal either). But status quo scheme-wise is absolutely not going to get it done.

We definitely need Dockery if we want to continue to enjoy a strong running attack. It's pissing me off that he's not signed, it should have happened by now. Every day that goes by without a deal, he's thinking more and more about free agency. I'm starting to think there is a greater than 50% chance he'll be gone, and it sickens me.

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Dockery is the most important name on that list. If they don't get a deal done and he signs somewhere else in free agency, then the front office has some real issues.

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[quote=skinsfan69;272198]Dockery and that's it. Or get some cheaper 2nd tier guys. Is it me, or does it seem a lot of the fans have taken into gasing up Redskins One right when free agency starts. Everyone thinks Nate Clemons is the savior. Isn't Buffalo going to try and keep him? I doubt they are just going to let him walk away and not get any compensation. Especially for a top NFL corner. They don't grow on trees. And if getting Clemons requires giving up picks then FORGET IT! Also there will be other teams with more cap room. So over paying for a corner going into his 7th year makes no sense. Fixing the defense may take more than one year and I don't have a problem with trying to draft guys and waiting it out. This team is in transition. It's going to take time. Nate Clemons will be a quick fix on an average to below average NFL team.[/quote]

I am not saying I want Redskin One there - I just have a feeling that it will be - I completely agree with you on going through the draft and building that way and adding a free agent or two as the final pieces. Unfortunately the FO believes in a different method. In addition since we have traded away most of our picks the only alternative seems to be the free agent market.

In my opinion it all comes down to having a good personelle department to find these gems in the rough like New England did in taking Asanate Samuel in the 4th round. Like I have said may times before we must get rid of the cancer and that cancer is Vinny Cerrato.

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[QUOTE=Bill B;272212]I am not saying I want Redskin One there - I just have a feeling that it will be - I completely agree with you on going through the draft and building that way and adding a free agent or two as the final pieces. Unfortunately the FO believes in a different method. In addition since we have traded away most of our picks the only alternative seems to be the free agent market.

In my opinion it all comes down to having a good personelle department to find these gems in the rough like New England did in taking Asanate Samuel in the 4th round. Like I have said may times before we must get rid of the cancer and that cancer is Vinny Cerrato.[/QUOTE]

The other problem is actually keeping these good finds once their contracts run out. We seem to get rid of guys before they really have a chance to develope.

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[quote=That Guy;272196]i wouldn't mind jason dunn. i thought fauria would give us that blocking... what a dud (was he injured? or does he just suck now?).[/quote]He was never a more than average blocker at any point in his career. I think we signed him off rep without extensive film study first. Generally the older a TE is, the greater chance he broke into the league as a blocker, but this is clearly a poor generalization.

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If the Colts win the SB I'm pretty sure they won't franchise Freeney. I'd like to see us go after Freeney because he'll make our defense so much better.

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[quote=saden1;272216]If the Colts win the SB I'm pretty sure they won't franchise Freeney. I'd like to see us go after Freeney because he'll make our defense so much better.[/quote]

So what do you do w/ Carter? They both play the same position. Not gonna happen.

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[quote=Schneed10;272205]I can agree with this, ASSUMING Gibbs continues to assert his philosophy on offense and ASSUMING G Williams figures out what the hell is wrong with our secondary.

Status quo personnel-wise wouldn't be TERRIBLE (wouldn't be ideal either). But status quo scheme-wise is absolutely not going to get it done.

We definitely need Dockery if we want to continue to enjoy a strong running attack. It's pissing me off that he's not signed, it should have happened by now. Every day that goes by without a deal, he's thinking more and more about free agency. I'm starting to think there is a greater than 50% chance he'll be gone, and it sickens me.[/quote]

Schneed - I'd say it is more like 100% Dockery will test the free agent market. I have heard that the availability of good starting guards on the market is pretty thin and [B]Dockery's agent[/B] [B](does anyone know who is representing him?)[/B] probably is telling him he can make a ton more on the free agent market than he can by resigning. Plus for some reason Synder seems to implement much more fiscal restraint when it comes to resigning his own players than other teams free agents.

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[quote=skinsfan69;272218]So what do you do w/ Carter? They both play the same position. Not gonna happen.[/quote]Agreed.

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[quote=GTripp0012;272178]I'm naming myself chancellor of the Warpath's official "Jason Dunn to the Redskins posse". Might cost us a late draft pick, maybe a 6th...but it would drasticly help both our running to the edges and pass blocking. Espicially after being forced to watch Christian Fauria last year, a career safety valve forced into being a blocking TE. After about the 3rd hold without a successful block, I had my eye on Dunn.

All aboard?[/quote]
dunn's been in the league for like 10 years, kinda old if you ask me.

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[quote=gabe1984;272224]dunn's been in the league for like 10 years, kinda old if you ask me.[/quote]Yeah, but blocking is one of the last skills to go. It's why you see all those lineman playing past the age of 35 (I think Dunn is 32). We could draft a blocking TE next year (2008) when we have more picks. He played for Saunders from 2002-2005 and if we could get two good years from his blocking abilities, it'd be worth a late rounder.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;272218]So what do you do w/ Carter? They both play the same position. Not gonna happen.[/QUOTE]

I keep hearing they're targeting a DE with their first pick. Possibly Adams at 6th or try to trade down for Quentin Moses. In my opinion, neither is as good or as valuable to the Skins as Jamaal Anderson. I, as most of you have heard me say ad nauseaum, would have loved for them to draft a DT like Branch and sign Justin Smith. But that doesn't look too likely either

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Again, we'll miss out on the Shawn Merriman of the draft. Not saying he is, but if we DON'T draft him, he'll blow up somewhere else.

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Just my gut feeling that Dockery is going to want to test the waters initially but we'll still get him signed. I say Clements will be the first to sign out of the gate and Redskins One will be headed his way at 12:01am on March 2.

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Since we're doing all this speculating, when is the first date that we'll be able to hear something officially Redskins related like the start of FA, the draft, etc?

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;272238]Since we're doing all this speculating, when is the first date that we'll be able to hear something officially Redskins related like the start of FA, the draft, etc?[/QUOTE]

Like what do you mean exactly?

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I dunno. Like the starting dates of important things. I know that FA starts at the end of February right?

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;272241]I dunno. Like the starting dates of important things. I know that FA starts at the end of February right?[/QUOTE]

Schedule will come out early April, first week most likely

My birthday is November 9

Besides that:

JANUARY
January 27: Senior Bowl, Mobile, AL

FEBRUARY

February 4: Super Bowl XLI at Dolphin Stadium, South Florida

February 8: First day clubs can designate Franchise or Transition players.

February 10: AFC-NFC Pro Bowl in Honolulu, Hawaii

February 12: Waiver system begins for 2007. Players with at least four previous pension-credited seasons whom clubs desire to terminate are not subject to the waiver system until after the trading deadline in October.

February 21: NFL Combine Timing and Testing Sessions at the RCA Dome in Indianapolis, IN

February 22: Deadline for designation of Franchise/Transition players.

MARCH

March 1: Deadline for club to exercise options for 2007 on all players who have option clauses in their 2006 contracts. Expiration date of all player contracts due to expire after 2006 season. Deadline for clubs to submit Qualifying Offers to Restricted Free Agents whose contracts are expiring. Deadline for clubs to submit minimum salary offers to Exclusive Rights Free Agents (players with less than three years of free agency credit).

March 2: Free Agency period begins. Trading period begins for 2007

March 19: Clubs may begin voluntary off-season workout programs March 25: NFL Owners Meeting at Arizona Biltmore, Phoenix, AZ

APRIL

April 20: Deadline for signing and submission of Offer Sheets by Restricted Free Agents

April 27: Deadline for Old Clubs to match Offer Sheets submitted by Restricted Free Agents

April 28-29: NFL Draft in New York City, NY

JUNE

June 1: Deadline for old club to send tender to its unsigned Restricted Free Agents or to extend Qualifying Offer, whichever is greater, in order to retain rights. Also, deadline for old club to send tender to its unsigned Unrestricted Free Agents to retain rights if player is not signed by another club by July 22 or beginning of veteran training camp, whichever is earlier.

June 15: Deadline for Restricted Free Agent to accept Qualifying Offer (if higher than 110% of previous year’s salary).

June 24: NFL/NFLPA Rookie Symposium – PGA National Resort and Spa, Palm Beach Gardens, FL

JULY

July 14: Any club designating a Franchise Player shall have until 4 pm EDT to sign the player to a multi-year contract or extension. After July 14 the player may sign only a one-year Player Contract with his Prior Club, and such Player Contract may not be extended until after the club’s last regular season game.

Mid-July: Training Camps open. Veteran players cannot be required to report earlier than 15 days prior to club’s first pre-season game or July 15, whichever is later. The July 15 date is not applicable to clubs playing five pre-season games.

July 22: Signing period ends at 4:00 pm EDT for Unrestricted Free Agents to whom June 1 tender was made by old club and for Transition Players and Franchise Players who are Subject to the rules for Transition

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[quote=Schneed10;272205]I can agree with this, ASSUMING Gibbs continues to assert his philosophy on offense and ASSUMING G Williams figures out what the hell is wrong with our secondary.[/quote]

here's the problem and what's wrong with our secondary:

-we let ryan clark go, he was starting for the steelers this year.
-we let walt harris go, he was starting for the 49ers this year.
-we let omar stoutmire go, he was starting for the saints this year.
-we let matt bowen go, he was starting for the bills this year.
-prioleau got injured on the first snap of the year and was gone.
-sean taylor isn't the guy to be lining other players up.
-archuleta isn't a guy you want covering anyone.
-vernon fox is a special teamer, not a good NFL starting safety.
-carlos rodgers has serious issues with playing well 14 weeks this year, and even on his good days he can't catch.

we don't have the horses, it's not just a scheme thing, its a serious personnel and depth issue. prioleau will help, rodgers MIGHT get a little consistency. our depth just isn't nearly as good as the last two years though.

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they better get Dockery first because of line continuity

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Ahh nice! Thanks TAF.

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I say they grab Freeney first and on the way home they pick up Nate Clements. Two days later Dockery leaves because we have no more money. Offseason over. Now we have two undersized DE's, but they can really really fly. Last step. Draft DT Alan Branch. The Dline would be unusual, but still a major strength. Sorry, but I'd take a big hole at left guard for that outcome. I'm also trying to do something a little demented a la Vinny Cerrato.

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freeney had like 3 sacks this year. if the colts don't jump out to a big lead, he is practically useless. this is my campaign to " just say no to freeney" now clements, i would like to see coming to Washington. but i voted to signing dockery. like chemistry rules in this league

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[quote=TAFKAS;272169]Who will be the first (only?) free agent to sign with the Redskins this offseason?[/quote]

My guess is Nate Clements because of his familiarity with Williams's system, however I'd rather have Samuels. The reason I don't feel it will be Dockery is because he will be signed before he becomes a FA.

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[quote=TAFKAS;272188]I would have preferred to have kept Dock off the list for that reason. But That Guy and Freddy threatened me with some pictures they took of me in an incriminating position...let me make this clear, I thought the cop was a prostitute[/quote]

Damn straight, re-sign Dock! I voted that way, and really hope that it happens. I don't like the fact that all reports thus far are that they aren't even close. Why does snyder always try to lowball his own players?

TAFKAS, don't feel too bad, we've all mistaken cops for prostitutes!