Windows Vista
 

Is/did anyone pick this up today?

I am very interested to know what type of an upgrade it is as compared to Windows XP, which I've never been a huge fan of.

Re: Windows Vista
 

We've been beta testing it for months now and basically it's Windows XP with all the functionality of a Mac. Benchmarks tests we did showed it to be slower than Windows XP, it IS more stable and just looks "pretty", but I won't be deploying that to any of my users including myself until the first service pack is out for it.

Re: Windows Vista
 

I haven't read a good review of the upgrade process yet. I think the only viable option is to go for a clean install.

Re: Windows Vista
 

While I'm intrigued by anything new like this, I'm going to stick with XP for a while. Either that, or I'll go Linux.

Re: Windows Vista
 

[quote=FRPLG;273520]I haven't read a good review of the upgrade process yet. I think the only viable option is to go for a clean install.[/quote]

That's without a doubt. We did it here and it was messy. MY problem is that it's missing drivers for a lot of legacy hardware and are basically giving a big "F-U" to the consumer saying they won't release drivers for them.

Re: Windows Vista
 

Weren't there driver problems when XP came out as well? So that really isn't anything new.

From what I understand, your best bet is to buy a machine with Vista preinstalled...because that way, you know it'll work with the hardware.

Re: Windows Vista
 

Right, which is why I'm waiting until service pack 1. I'm not worried about it working on newer hardware, it's people's older printers, scanners, etc.

Re: Windows Vista
 

It is like a new gaming console and Matty's theory...wait until they fix the problems first before buying!

Re: Windows Vista
 

The difference between a gaming console and an operating system is that the OS will at least get upgraded at some point.

Re: Windows Vista
 

I've learned this the hard way with prior Windows releases: Wait about 6 months after the release of the new OS before you get it...bugs and flaws are ALWAYS in the first edition for the customers to suffer through and work out. I spent 6 months without the internet to get Windows 95 running smoothly when we preordered it.

I'm happy with XP now (wasn't when it was new though) and am in no mood to go through the guinnea pig phase with MS again. You should wait until at least the first service pack and [U]big[/U] update download.

That's just my opinion though.

Re: Windows Vista
 

I'll change over when all of the porn viruses have destroyed my current computer and I'm forced to buy another one...

Re: Windows Vista
 

I also was beta teting and wasn't very impressed, couldn't use some hardware and whatnot, one thing I found cool was the Media Center package built in. But the computer I have hooked to my TV to use it with didn't have 256 memory so I couldn't use it there basically I found it to be a prettied up XP, like the XP that gets it's salsa from New York city!

Re: Windows Vista
 

New York City?!?!

Re: Windows Vista
 

It's like XP with nice UI and little more features. Most of the work that went into Vista wasn't on the surface. It's definitely not worth the $$.

Re: Windows Vista
 

Here ya go Gmanc, this flowchart will answer all your questions!

[url]http://www.bbspot.com/Images/News_Features/2007/02/vista_upgrade_flowchart.pdf[/url]

Re: Windows Vista
 

Honestly, I think it's exactly what Malcolm said, a MS version of the Mac OS. I've heard that even if your PC has the recommended hardware, not just the requirements it still runs slow. On my ms box I'm running xp pro with an 80 gb hard drive and 1.25 gb ram, pentium 4, everything runs/works fine. I'd hate to go do a clean install, search for necessary drivers, just to lose functionality for the sake of a "pretty" os.

I'm glad you guys mentioned the problematic upgrades, that's the first i heard that...

Re: Windows Vista
 

If anybody is interested in buying Vista, it appears as though you can purchase the upgrade version and do a "clean install" -- even if you don't have the qualifying software (like XP). This means that you can save about $200 bucks on your purchase.

[url=http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5932]DailyTech - Workaround Discovered For "Clean Install" With Vista Upgrade DVDs[/url]

Re: Windows Vista
 

its just an expensive upgrade with no benefits, besides possibly not working with your old hardware and running slower.

originally they were going to add a real journaling filesystem and some other useful tech, but those things got scraped to get it out the door faster.

Re: Windows Vista
 

go figure, remote exploits already found ;)

this one isn't really that serious (websites that play sounds can trigger vista's speech control to do things).

[URL="http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/01/1457252"]Slashdot | Remote Exploit of Vista Speech Control[/URL]

Re: Windows Vista
 

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKuYQwm1yNs]YouTube - Microsoft's Vista Copies Apple OS?[/url]

Re: Windows Vista
 

bohnzie, i dont know anything about the apple os, so is this a good thing?

Re: Windows Vista
 

Like the dude said on the video, by the 2 giants copying each other and such, it will only lead to a better OS. However, once I have the cash to do so, I'm jumping ship to Apple.

Re: Windows Vista
 

[quote]Like the dude said on the video, by the 2 giants copying each other and such, it will only lead to a better OS. However, once I have the cash to do so, I'm jumping ship to Apple.[/quote]

Don't complain about legacy stuff if you go to Apple. They don't support anything when they update their OS.

Just something about one company running all aspects of the computer I simply don't like.

Re: Windows Vista
 

I do a lot of graphic based stuff, so I'd naturally want to go to Apple. The one nice thing about their OS's is they don't have nearly as many problems as M$. But if worst comes to worst, I'll just dual boot WinXP and Linux, and go to Linux.

Re: Windows Vista
 

[quote=BDBohnzie;274035][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKuYQwm1yNs"]YouTube - Microsoft's Vista Copies Apple OS?[/URL][/quote]

[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]I'd trust that report...CBS News knows a lot about about p[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=&quot][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]lagiarism.[/SIZE][/FONT] :)[/FONT]

Re: Windows Vista
 

I've been playing with the speech comand thing... its pretty cool for dictation...

I can dictate to the computer alot faster than I can type...