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SmootSmack 02-08-2007 10:07 PM

Mike Doss?
 
So he's apparently decided to honor his option to get out of the last year of his contract making him an unrestricted free agent.

Just wanted to throw this out to the board...is this someone we should consider?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/395951]NFL.com - Mike Doss[/url]

Schneed10 02-08-2007 10:10 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
Isn't he garbage?

SmootSmack 02-08-2007 10:15 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
Is he? I don't know really. I know he tore his ACL or something like that at the beginning of this year.

I mean personally I don't think we need him, I'm just wondering what others think

12thMan 02-08-2007 10:27 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
Well he was good at Ohio State, and good with the Colts. Ran into some injury issues the past couple of years. But he's a solid player when healthy.

The guy can hit too.

SkinEmAll 02-08-2007 10:36 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
honestly I dont know a whole lot about him either, but his stats say something, what Im not sure, but seems like he made a good impact his first year, then down from there. Im guessing injuries had alot to do with that, or not?

Pocket$ $traight 02-08-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
[quote=TAFKAS;275933]So he's apparently decided to honor his option to get out of the last year of his contract making him an unrestricted free agent.

Just wanted to throw this out to the board...is this someone we should consider?

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/395951"]NFL.com - Mike Doss[/URL][/quote]

The problem that I have is that he tore his ACL. Everyone agrees that is a two year injury so he would be limited next year. I think they are o.k. at the second safety spot.

FRPLG 02-08-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
Well he's had some character issues so that's something to think on. But he is a solid enough player. Better than what we have. Does he fit? Not sure. He played cover two in Indy though. I think I'd go with another no name. Outside of the AA debacle(granted it was a big debacle) they seem to have success with no names back there. Clark was solid and Prioleau and Fox got the job done. I'd like an upgrade over Fox but Doss will probably cost some dough that we need to use elsewhere.

With all that and the knee there are some questions.

MTK 02-09-2007 12:04 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
His coverage skills are very suspect. I wouldn't see him being a good fit here at all. He's a Roy Williams Jr.

GTripp0012 02-09-2007 12:18 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
As opposed to Hank Williams Jr?

;)

Big C 02-09-2007 12:26 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
yeah pretty sure he is crap in coverage

GTripp0012 02-09-2007 12:28 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
He's a pretty bad NFL safety. Not Philip Buchanon catastrophically bad, but close.

That Guy 02-09-2007 01:01 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
if it's much above vet min, it's probably not worth it. he'd be okay depth if healthy...

dmek25 02-09-2007 05:16 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
depth only. and no big money. we have enough of other issues that need addressed first

Daseal 02-09-2007 08:56 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
He's okay, but he'll want some money.

Hog1 02-09-2007 09:13 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
[quote=Daseal;276059]He's okay, but he'll want some money.[/quote]

okay skills=okay $

Skinz4life 02-09-2007 09:34 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
I can remember that the Skins were high on him when he came out of Ohio St. they were looking to select him before T. Jacobs
[COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Unfortunately fell in their laps. I don't think he would be a bad pick up as long as the price is right. He was pretty good before all the injuries hit.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

724Skinsfan 02-09-2007 10:16 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
I thought Mike Doss had attitude or conduct problems, moreso than your typical NFL player.

skinsfan69 02-09-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
He's a high draft pick and got caught w/ guns a few years ago. Plus he's coming off an injury. Looks like he's a perfect fit for the Raiders. But he's probably better than anyone we have at FS.

Citizens for 81 02-09-2007 02:20 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
[quote=Skinz4life;276076]I can remember that the Skins were high on him when he came out of Ohio St. they were looking to select him before T. Jacobs
[COLOR=black][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Unfortunately fell in their laps. I don't think he would be a bad pick up as long as the price is right. He was pretty good before all the injuries hit.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/quote]

Exactly, the skins were very likely to pick him in the second round and Jacobs fell into the OBC's lap and of course we all know how that turned out.

He's a decent safety, but we already have an over-paid under achieving safety, do we need another one?

skinsfan69 02-09-2007 06:30 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
[quote=Citizens for 81;276174]Exactly, the skins were very likely to pick him in the second round and Jacobs fell into the OBC's lap and of course we all know how that turned out.

He's a decent safety, but we already have an over-paid under achieving safety, do we need another one?[/quote]

He'll come much cheaper than AA.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR 02-09-2007 08:03 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
He a good player but why would you want to sign a guy coming off a ACL injury. We should have drafted him instead of Taylor Jacobs.

Beemnseven 02-10-2007 10:44 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
Other players available to us at #44 in the 2003 draft...

-- Osi Umenyora (DE, taken by NY at #56)

-- Anquan Boldin (WR, taken by ARI at #54)

-- LJ Smith (TE, taken by PHI at #61)

Just goes to show even a slew of draft picks won't matter as long as you have clowns making the picks.

MTK 02-10-2007 10:47 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
We did get Dockery in the 3rd round that year, can't hate on that. All your picks can't be winners, considering we only had 3 picks that year at least we got 1 quality starter.

Terry 02-10-2007 11:11 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
He's ok when he's healthy, but he doesn't stay healthy. In 4 seasons he's missed 24 games.

But he was good enough to start as a rookie, making 105 tackles, defend 5 passes, force 3 fumbles, and grab a pick.

So he ain't dogmeat by any means.

Pocket$ $traight 02-10-2007 11:18 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;276374]We did get Dockery in the 3rd round that year, can't hate on that. All your picks can't be winners, considering we only had 3 picks that year at least we got 1 quality starter.[/quote]

Now we just need to hold onto him...

MTK 02-10-2007 12:25 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
[quote=Grim21Reaper;276381]Now we just need to hold onto him...[/quote]

I definitely agree.

RMSkins 02-10-2007 02:23 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
I say we bring him in for depth if he isn't looking for huge money, and who knows maybe he will develop into a starter for us, he is young so there is an upside.

sportscurmudgeon 02-14-2007 09:26 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
Would I pay Mike Doss big bucks in the FA market? No. Let me be clear about that. NO!!

But I find it interesting that some folks here think he's a bum because his cover skills as a safety are "suspect". And they are...

However, no one currently on the Redskins roster who plays safety can cover a corpse. So, in the spirit of consistency, can we please say that signing Mike Doss is not a good idea because he's no better at coverage as a safety than any of the jamokes we already have under contract...

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-15-2007 09:34 AM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
Oh Yes He Is Crap Adam Archuleta Is Way Better Than Him

sportscurmudgeon 02-16-2007 10:55 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
Earthquake:

I don't know what league you've been watching, but Adam Archuletta is NOT better in coverage at safety than Mike Doss. I've already said Doss isn't all that good so don't tell me he's bad; I agree. But Archuletta has never been good at coverage from the day the Rams signed him out of college. He's a "big hitter" and not much more. One of the reasons Archuletta will never become a good cover-guy is that he's too slow to keep up with tight ends let alone slot receivers.

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-16-2007 10:58 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;276094]He's a high draft pick and got caught w/ guns a few years ago. Plus he's coming off an injury. Looks like he's a perfect fit for the Raiders. But he's probably better than anyone we have at FS.[/quote]


uh last time i checked sean taylor played free safety for us

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-16-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Mike Doss?
 
doss is pretty slow as well and arch can keep up with some tight ends maybe....................................... no ur right he's too slow too


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