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RMSkins 02-10-2007 12:31 PM

Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
Looks like Napoleon Harris' contract voids this season, and it doesn't seem likely he will return to the Vikings. So how about picking him up? He probably won't be looking for a huge contract and he is a decent player.

[url=http://slambios.canoe.ca/nfl/football/player.cgi?4482]Player Bio[/url]

JGisLordOfTheRings 02-10-2007 12:33 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
hmmm...stats arent bad and I've seen him lay the wood Ade Jimoh style before so....maybe....

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-10-2007 12:42 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
He was a big disappointment in Oakland and early in his Vikings career. But, he's supposedly been developing nicely recently. I know he's pretty athletic, but I don't know whether he's "football smart."

skinsfan69 02-10-2007 12:43 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
If we can get him at the right price bring him in here. Better than any options we have in the middle. Solid against the run. But before we go looking for FA's the FO had better do some freakin research! Must be a reason the Raiders and Vikings don't want the guy.

MTK 02-10-2007 12:50 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
We need an impact player, not another Warrick Holdman type.

Pocket$ $traight 02-10-2007 01:14 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
This sounds intriguing. He is pretty young too.

dmek25 02-10-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
is this guy a middle linebacker? or someone else we want to convert?

Big C 02-10-2007 01:57 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;276415]is this guy a middle linebacker? or someone else we want to convert?[/QUOTE]

yes he is a middle linebacker, but IMO hes above average at best, not great or elite. a solid player but nothing more

GTripp0012 02-10-2007 03:30 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
[quote=RMSkins;276395]Looks like Napoleon Harris' contract voids this season, and it doesn't seem likely he will return to the Vikings. So how about picking him up? He probably won't be looking for a huge contract and he is a decent player.

[URL="http://slambios.canoe.ca/nfl/football/player.cgi?4482"]Player Bio[/URL][/quote]I liked him in college, and he had a great Rookie year in what was the Raiders super bowl year, but he hasn't done much since then. We'd probably be better off with Fletcher or Kavika Mitchell.

724Skinsfan 02-10-2007 03:52 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
I don't care who we get really as long as he is willing to be a vocal leader on the field and capable of directing the other guys on defense. You know...Pierce-like. If Harris isn't this type of guy then he can go waste someone else's money.

freddyg12 02-10-2007 08:56 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
[quote=724Skinsfan;276444]I don't care who we get really as long as he is willing to be a vocal leader on the field and capable of directing the other guys on defense. You know...Pierce-like. If Harris isn't this type of guy then he can go waste someone else's money.[/quote]

well put, way to represent Roanoke!
GW's system seems to need the mlb to be in command of the playbook & able to voice it. I don't think that's Marshall's style as much.

Skins_4_Lyfe 02-10-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
Is'nt he the guy that was on the other side of the Randy Moss trade...Moss later dissed him by saying that he was "traded for someone that he had never heard of".

squrrelco3 02-11-2007 02:28 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
[quote=Big C;276419]yes he is a middle linebacker, but IMO hes above average at best, not great or elite. a solid player but nothing more[/quote]

Hey at least he's a solid starter that is familiar with the position...that is still better than the converts we tried to throw in there this year. i say if we can get him for a little over a million a year, lets go for it.

That Guy 02-11-2007 10:32 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
[quote=squrrelco3;276589]Hey at least he's a solid starter that is familiar with the position...that is still better than the converts we tried to throw in there this year. i say if we can get him for a little over a million a year, lets go for it.[/quote]

i seriously doubt he'll go that cheap. If so, it'd be stupid not to bring him in.

Terry 02-12-2007 10:31 AM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
If I was going after a free agent, I'd make a serious run at Vonnie Holliday, thus giving us the luxury of not HAVING to draft Branch.

It would make trading down more palatable and allow us to pick up two defensive prospects on the first day.

But Miami won't give him up without a fight.

GhettoDogAllStars 02-12-2007 02:03 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
As long as he's smart. MLB needs to be smart.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-12-2007 03:52 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
[QUOTE=GhettoDogAllStars;276769]As long as he's smart. MLB needs to be smart.[/QUOTE]

I think you meant "Supersmart." ;)

Beemnseven 02-12-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
[QUOTE=Terry;276691]If I was going after a free agent, I'd make a serious run at Vonnie Holliday, thus giving us the luxury of not HAVING to draft Branch.[/QUOTE]

Can you clarify this? Am I reading you right that if we pick up someone like Vonnie Holliday at linebacker that enables us to draft something other than a defensive lineman?

If so, I could not disagree with you more. I've said this in another post, but it won't matter who you put in at linebacker when your defensive line gets trampled. We must have an upgrade along the line, specifically at D-tackle. We got ZERO penetration from Griffin and Salave'a last season.

A 'supersmart' sure-tackling middle linebacker does you no good when he's forced to make that tackle 4+ yards after the line of scrimmage. It starts up front -- and if the Redskins don't get help up front, the defense will be right where they were last year, if not worse.

MTK 02-12-2007 04:15 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
Since when does Vonnie Holliday play LB?

Regardless the guy is on the wrong side of 30 and has 12 sacks the last 3 years.

Pass.

Beemnseven 02-12-2007 04:19 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;276831]Since when does Vonnie Holliday play LB?

Regardless the guy is on the wrong side of 30 and has 12 sacks the last 3 years.

Pass.[/QUOTE]

My fault. I was thinking he played linebacker.

But wait -- Matty, what about all those people who say sacks don't really matter?

MTK 02-12-2007 04:25 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
Sacks can be overrated at times, but when you're not getting [U]any[/U] pressure that's a problem.

Regarding Holliday, unless I'm seriously missing something I don't see why he would be on our radar. We already have two very similar players in Daniels and Wynn.

Crat92 02-12-2007 11:45 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
I agree on the smarts aspect, but what I would like to see is a BIG MLB! Somewhere around 255lbs to 260lbs.

sportscurmudgeon 02-13-2007 04:28 PM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
There are better MLBs in the NFL than Napoleon Harris - - and there are worse ones too. Sadly, some of the "worse ones" happen to be Redskins at the moment. I believe he is a better MLB than anyone currently on the Skins' roster so that's a "positive".

Here's what bothers me:

Supposedly when the Vikes traded Randy Moss to the Raiders, Napoleon Harris was the "dealbreaker"; if the Raiders would not put him in the package, then the Vikes would not send Moss to Oakland. He was the guy they "had to have".

Now they just don't care all that much if he walks ... just a couple of years later ... just after the Vikes had a top-5 rushing defense for the season. Something's fishy here.

56FAN 02-14-2007 09:48 AM

Re: Napoleon Harris at MLB?
 
he's got very good speed, it we can bring aboard with taking money for somewhere else by all means.


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