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Gmanc711 03-02-2007 08:38 PM

(MERGE): Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
Done 5yr, 25mil, 10.5 SB, Link Coming ASAP

dall-assblows 03-02-2007 08:40 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
so it has started......................will it ever end?

Frost 03-02-2007 08:42 PM

nfl network: redskins sign london fletcher
 
it was just on nfl network football friday that London Fletcher has signed with the redskins 25 mil for 5 yrs or something like that.. no mention of fred smooooooth,, they said that we are going to draft adams,, and also they had cooley over the phone talking about next seasons expectations.. (nate clemens also signed with 49ers big contract worth 80 mil)

Gmanc711 03-02-2007 08:44 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
Contract Update: (from ES) Reporting 4 yrs/ 22.5 Million, 6 mill gauranteed.

I know for a fact he's signed, still awaiting a link with right contract info

dall-assblows 03-02-2007 08:45 PM

Re: nfl network: redskins sign london fletcher
 
u r late

dall-assblows 03-02-2007 08:46 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
is he at the wizards game?

Gmanc711 03-02-2007 08:47 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
and from Pro Football Talk:

FLETCHER IS A 'SKIN

A league source tells us that linebacker London Fletcher has agreed to terms with the Washington Redskins.

Per the source, it's a five-year, $25 million deal. It pays a $10.5 million signing bonus and pays out $12.5 million over the first two years.

Washington was Fletcher's first and only visit. Other teams that were interested in the nine-year veteran were the Bills, Lions, and Patriots.



So Hes def signed, still working on contract info.

Warpath 03-02-2007 08:48 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[QUOTE=dall-assblows;283059]is he at the wizards game?[/QUOTE]

per redskins.com: "Gibbs was among coaches and team officials who went with Fletcher and Smoot to the Washington Wizards-Atlanta Hawks basketball game at Verizon Center in Washington, D.C., on Friday night."

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=25089]Gibbs: No Deals Yet[/url] (3rd paragraph)

Frost 03-02-2007 08:49 PM

Re: nfl network: redskins sign london fletcher
 
yea,, we both wrote it at the same time,, i would erase mine but i dunno how

Gmanc711 03-02-2007 08:51 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
I just merged it, no problems

Frost 03-02-2007 08:54 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
cheers :food-smil

skinsfan_nn 03-02-2007 08:57 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
Good Deal! That contract is within reason. We NEED a TOP SHELF MLB, maybe we just got one. This guy has been a ROCK SOLID PERFORMER!

Hope we get some OFFICIAL news! Something besides PFT.

SKINSnCANES 03-02-2007 09:01 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[quote=skinsfan_nn;283070]Good Deal! That contract is within reason. We NEED a TOP SHELF MLB, maybe we just got one. This guy has been a ROCK SOLID PERFORMER!

Hope we get some OFFICIAL news! Something besides PFT.[/quote]

hmm, im very very skeptical about this signing. reminds me too much of the barrow signing. if you remember, barrow was also older, but had never been injured, and got a big deal then never really played...i hope it doesnt turn out like that but i think this is another one of those big contracts that we give to players to retire with...

Darrell_Green_28 03-02-2007 09:03 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-redskins-freeagency&prov=ap&type=lgns]Redskins interested in Fletcher, Smoot - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

skinsfan_nn 03-02-2007 09:06 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
SI.COM AGREES IT'S DONE DEAL!

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/03/02/bc.fbn.redskins.freeage.ap/index.html]SI.com - NFL - LB Fletcher agrees to 5-year, $25M pact with 'Skins - Friday March 2, 2007 8:54PM[/url]

saden1 03-02-2007 09:06 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
That's a lot of money to throw around. If I had to guess, I'd guess they are planning on letting Doc walk or trade the 6th pick.

Warpath 03-02-2007 09:08 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[QUOTE=saden1;283077]That's a lot of money to throw around. If I had to guess, I'd guess they are planning on letting Doc walk or trade the 6th pick.[/QUOTE]


Guess you haven't heard or seen the posts. Docs gone to Buffalo.

skinsfan_nn 03-02-2007 09:20 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[quote=saden1;283077]That's a lot of money to throw around. If I had to guess, I'd guess they are planning on letting Doc walk or trade the 6th pick.[/quote]


Go to the forums list. Docks history, Buffalo Bound.......

Gmanc711 03-02-2007 09:23 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2786241]ESPN.com - NFL - Skins reach $25M agreement with MLB Fletcher[/url]


Theres the official link

BangCartoon 03-02-2007 09:27 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
Per the ESPN article
"A human tackling machine, the undersized but ever-active Fletcher has averaged [B][COLOR="Red"][I]143.4 [/I][/COLOR][/B]tackles over the past five seasons. Unlike most middle linebackers around the league, though, Fletcher can stay on the field on third down because of his solid skills in pass coverage."

Oh man is that a sweet paragraph.

~Bang

Dirtbag59 03-02-2007 09:29 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[URL="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/redskins/2007-03-02-free-agency-opens_x.htm"]As usual Redskins busy as they sign Fletcher, try to land Smoot - USATODAY.com[/URL]

saden1 03-02-2007 09:30 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
Didn't realize what went down today with Doc. I've been out of touch the whole day negotiating my own multi thousand dollar contract :)

Gmanc711 03-02-2007 09:34 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[QUOTE=saden1;283089]Didn't realize what went down today with Doc. I've been out of touch the whole day negotiating my own multi thousand dollar contract :)[/QUOTE]

Did your agent get you that 1600 dollar singning bonus, or are you holidng out for an even 2000? ;)

mapod 03-02-2007 09:53 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
Not to be a negitave Neddy but I do hope that this will not be a signing of another underachiever i.e B. Loyyd; Arch......

[quote=BangCartoon;283087]Per the ESPN article
"A human tackling machine, the undersized but ever-active Fletcher has averaged [B][COLOR=red][I]143.4 [/I][/COLOR][/B]tackles over the past five seasons. Unlike most middle linebackers around the league, though, Fletcher can stay on the field on third down because of his solid skills in pass coverage."

Oh man is that a sweet paragraph.

~Bang[/quote]

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-02-2007 09:54 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[quote=dall-assblows;283053]so it has started......................will it ever end?[/quote]



we all know that it wont

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 10:02 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
This is the first step to turning around the defense. Marshall did not have the physical attributes necessary to fight of blocks and make a tackle. Fletcher has proven that he does. He is a proven middle linebacker in the Williams system.

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 10:05 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[quote=saden1;283077]That's a lot of money to throw around. If I had to guess, I'd guess they are planning on letting Doc walk or trade the 6th pick.[/quote]

Obvously you cannot compare contracts that are given out this year to previous contracts.

Dockery signed a contract with 18 million guaranteed worth a total of 49 million. That is insane.

25 million seems pretty reasonable this year.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-02-2007 10:10 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;283114]Obvously you cannot compare contracts that are given out this year to previous contracts.

Dockery signed a contract with 18 million guaranteed worth a total of 49 million. That is insane.

25 million seems pretty reasonable this year.[/QUOTE]

Randy Thomas got a $7M SB a few years back, so giving Dock an $8M SB today would seem about right (particularly when you consider that Dock is nowhere near as good). Champ Bailey got $18M in bonus money a few years back, so Clements getting about $14M this year would seem right (particularly when you consider that he's nowhere near as good). Instead, these players got about DOUBLE what they should have gotten. But, the salary cap hasn't increased twofold in the past 2 years. So, this s---t is just crazy.

Pocket$ $traight 03-02-2007 10:14 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;283121]Randy Thomas got a $7M SB a few years back, so giving Dock an $8M SB today would seem about right (particularly when you consider that Dock is nowhere near as good). Champ Bailey got $18M in bonus money a few years back, so Clements getting about $14M this year would seem right (particularly when you consider that he's nowhere near as good). Instead, these players got about DOUBLE what they should have gotten. But, the salary cap hasn't increased twofold in the past 2 years. So, this s---t is just crazy.[/quote]

The first thing that I thought about when I heard Dock's contract was Hutchinson's deal.

Hutchinson is the premier guard in the league and Dock is making what he made.

I think that everyone on the site will agree that the Redskins should not have matched or offered the deal that Dockery signed.

FRPLG 03-02-2007 10:39 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
This money seems about right. In fact it seems downright cheap.

Questfor31 03-02-2007 10:46 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
As a Bills fan, I 've been watching London Fletcher for the last five years. He's been an asset at Middle Linebacker for the Buffalo Bills, leading the team in tackles just about every year, but in my opinion on the wrong side of thirty, London Fletcher is not worth a five year, $25 million contract. I think you guys have got yourself a player, but his best years are behind him.

MTK 03-02-2007 10:46 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
I like this deal, seems like a lot of money up front which is a little odd for this front office. The contract in reality is probably a 2-3 year deal.

70Chip 03-02-2007 10:51 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[quote=Questfor31;283147]As a Bills fan, I 've been watching London Fletcher for the last five years. He's been an asset at Middle Linebacker for the Buffalo Bills, leading the team in tackles just about every year, but in my opinion on the wrong side of thirty, London Fletcher is not worth a five year, $25 million contract. I think you guys have got yourself a player, but his best years are behind him.[/quote]

Care to comment on the Dockery Deal?

Dirtbag59 03-02-2007 11:13 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
I felt that this would make for an intresting compariosn
2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
[B]Grade:[/B] 78 | [URL="http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/features/scouting#key"][COLOR=#000000]Key[/COLOR][/URL]
[B]Alert:[/B] B (Bulk)

[B]Comment:[/B]
Fletcher has excellent experience, durability and toughness. He plays in regular and sub packages. He is competitive, active and hard-working. He handles all of the Bills' calls and adjustments within the box. He has good recognition skills and key-and-diagnose against the run and pass. He is an instinctive tackler who has sideline-to-sideline range. He can slide, stay square, avoid and play through trash in the box. He has a knack for timing up his blitzes and pressuring quarterbacks. He can open his hips and get good depth in underneath zones. He still has the speed to carry the vertical seam in cover 2. He has very good awareness and effectively communicates pattern recognition. He can match up with tight ends or backs over short areas in man-to-man. But Fletcher is undersized and lacks ideal power. He isn't a natural take-on player. He can get engulfed by bigger blockers and driven out of run lanes. He knows how to use his hands but lacks explosiveness in his stack-and-shed. He doesn't always protect his lower half when moving downhill.

2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
[B]Grade:[/B] 72 | [URL="http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/features/scouting#key"][COLOR=#000000]Key[/COLOR][/URL]
[B]Alert:[/B] None

[B]Comment:[/B]
Pierce is athletic, heady and very reliable. He reacts to the ball and follows his instincts, but he is efficient and makes few mistakes. He seems to have a very good understanding of his role and position. He has a great feel for angles and awareness of blockers. He has sideline-to-sideline range, uses his hands effectively and gets over trash. He moves well laterally and changes direction quickly. He has the hips and speed to turn and run with tight ends or backs in man-to-man. He gets good depth on his zone drops. He gets good jumps off the snap and doesn't waste much movement. He plays under control and is a good open-field tackler. His anticipation and instincts give him some blitzing potential. But Pierce is undersized and lacks power. He won't fill the hole, take on blockers or stack and shed effectively at the point of attack. He can be engulfed and moved out of the hole by big linemen. He runs around some blocks and opens up run lanes.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR 03-02-2007 11:22 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
10 million bonus for a 32 yr old LB give me a break

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-02-2007 11:24 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;283190]10 million bonus for a 32 yr old LB give me a break[/QUOTE]

Again, you're looking at the contracts as though the market hasn't gone crazy. It has, so get used to seeing slightly-above-average GUARDS getting $18M. When Dockery is getting $18M, Fletcher getting about half that at a much more important position, it doesn't seem so crazy.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR 03-02-2007 11:27 PM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
one 26 and the other 32, if london was at least in his 20's it would be a better deal. we dont need anymore over 30 year old starters

Crat92 03-03-2007 12:09 AM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
I guess GW wanted a 'backer who was familiar with his system. We'll see.

Aussie_Skins_Fan 03-03-2007 12:23 AM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;283193]Again, you're looking at the contracts as though the market hasn't gone crazy. It has, so get used to seeing slightly-above-average GUARDS getting $18M. When Dockery is getting $18M, Fletcher getting about half that at a much more important position, it doesn't seem so crazy.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't agree more, this team needs a MLB who can come in and play now, Flethcer can, he knows GW's system and will provide immediate leadership. For probably the best MLB in FA and certianly the bes fit at MLB for us, we haven't overpaid.

Pocket$ $traight 03-03-2007 12:29 AM

Re: ESPN: Redskins Sign London Fletcher
 
[quote=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;283198]one 26 and the other 32, if london was at least in his 20's it would be a better deal. we dont need anymore over 30 year old starters[/quote]

What are your suggestions? I have heard you trash every move the front office has made, but I certainly haven't heard you propose a solution.

The fact is that the past is the past. No one can change it. All they can do is take that hand that they have and make the best moves going forward.

You may think they paid too much for Fletcher but what was the alternative. If you say Marshall I would ask you if you were in a time warp last year.

Also, you have no idea what free agent linebackers are going to go for this year.

I will make a prediction. Joey Porter will sign a 60+ million dollar deal.

Fletcher won't look so bad, after that happens, will he???


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