Salary Cap (merged)
 

I really wanna see the numbers or our new signings and restructurings; I normally defer to the warpath, but that info is not available, does anyone know where I can see how the new contracts and restructured contracts are structured?

Re: Salary Cap
 

CC updates his sheets regularly this time of year, as soon as he does we'll upload the new info.

The non-spending sprees will continue
 

for the next few years, I wouldnt expect the skins to go on any spending sprees. It's not that we have changed philosophy or anything, the reason is the same reason why we didnt go on a spending spree this year, we just simply do not have the cap space.

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

I will never put it past this FO when it comes to finding ways to create cap space. As we've seen even in this "inactive" year, they've had little trouble finding cap space. The much bigger concern is scouting--I have no problem paying for players, just not SUCKY players (yes, that means you, AA!).

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

I'm not sure why people are trying to say we're not spending because of no cap space. That's just wrong, we have plenty of cap room right now to make moves, and we could easily clear alot more room if needed.

I know it might be hard to believe, but the front office is taking a different approach this offseason.

The WT has an article today that outlines our current cap situation:

[url=http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20070307-115840-4092r.htm]Redskins' moves create cap room - Sports - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/url]

Re: Salary Cap
 

I am new to the warpath and the salary cap is why I originally found this site. The last update I have is before the restructuring and free agency acquistions. Where can I go to find the updated information? Thanks

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

Another cap tidbit from JLC, he says we're about $9M under:

Hall was due to count $1.5 million on the teams cap, so the Skins stand around $9-plus million under the cap, and could free up another $2.5 million should they opt to let Renaldo Wynn go at some point.

They could also always restructure a few more contracts should they require even more cap space (Marcus, Griffin and Daniels would all be candidates given the nature of their contracts).

We have cap room!
 

Mr. Ego, please feel free to merge all these recent cap threads.

Just finished updating my sheets (March 8). Should be on the site soon. This update includes everything (Fletcher, Smoot, restructures, etc.).

I had to do a triple take but it looks like we have cap room! I calculate we have about $9.7M in cap space right now. Plus we can get another $10M or so from more restructures. So we have like $20M left to spend if we want to.

I'll be honest this is uncharted territory for me. How are we gonna spend another $20M? Even if we keep Springs, trade for Bly, trade down and sign 2 first round picks, we'd still have like $10-$15M to play with. I mean we don't even have a single player with a deadcap hit over $500K!

Maybe we'll absorb Arch's $9M cap hit after all? Maybe Mr. Snyder will distribute the excess cap room back to the fans? Or will we really enter a new season with cap room? Schneed am I hallucinating?

Re: We have cap room!
 

uncharted territory for me.

Feel like your sailing off the edge of the.....flat planet?

Re: We have cap room!
 

Thanks for the cap update. I think Gibbs may want to evaluate some guys in training camp before deciding to keep or cut them, namely Wynn (who I hope stays), AA & Loyd. It will be a different training camp for sure, several guys will be fighting for starting positions & roster spots. Having the cap space will allow us to cut some, like you said about AA.
We need some competition in camp, that's been one of the problems w/the fa signings, those guys are almost assured of a starting spot.

Re: We have cap room!
 

Maybe, just MAYBE, we are thinking about resigning Cooley and Taylor.

Hearing things like this makes it feel like Christmas.

Re: Salary Cap
 

Cap sheets have been updated (March 8). Should be on the site soon.

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

I dont believe this year is the problem, over the next few years fat paychecks with significant amounts left on bonuses will kick in, so we cant sign big priced guys this year because it will kick us in the rear in a year or so..

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

[quote=Mattyk72;285889]
I know it might be hard to believe, but the front office is taking a different approach this offseason.

[/quote]


I agree. I think they finally learned their lesson.

Re: We have cap room!
 

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;285899]Maybe, just MAYBE, we are thinking about resigning Cooley and Taylor.

Hearing things like this makes it feel like Christmas.[/QUOTE]I'd be very happy if that happened. I think either of those guys would command a ton of money on the open market so I'd love to get them wrapped up before it comes to that.

Re: We have cap room!
 

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;285899]Maybe, just MAYBE, we are thinking about resigning Cooley and Taylor.

Hearing things like this makes it feel like Christmas.[/QUOTE]

And then I open my Redskins bill and realize its not.

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

[quote=BeastsoftheNFCeast;285903]I dont believe this year is the problem, over the next few years fat paychecks with significant amounts left on bonuses will kick in, so we cant sign big priced guys this year because it will kick us in the rear in a year or so..[/quote]

We've been hearing that since 2000.

Every year the Skins restructure deals, give out new deals, etc., to avoid cap hell.

Re: We have cap room!
 

I sure as hell hope that's what they are doing. I would like to think so. The way that they have approached Free Agency this year leads me to think that they are about to build a team for now as well as the future and not just for the next 3 years. I believe Cooley and Taylor will end up getting their extentions sooner rather than later. I like the way that they are doing things this year. Hopefully the room is being made so keeping Springs doesn't hamper the extentions of those two. I think Dockery leaving sent up a red flag, a little too late but I think it was in fact sent. Lock them up early while you can.

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

I don't think we'll have any idea if this kind of "non-spending spree," as you put it, will continue in the future until this time next season.
If the team does well this upcoming season, say 11-5 and at least makes the playoffs, we probably will continue on this path.
But if the team goes out and has another piss-poor season I wouldn't be surprised to see Snyder jump right back into his free-spending ways in order to finally find the quick fix.

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

[QUOTE=70Chip;285905]I agree. I think they finally learned their lesson.[/QUOTE]
I don't...I think it will be on a player who is out basis!

Re: We have cap room!
 

[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;285899]Maybe, just MAYBE, we are thinking about resigning Cooley and Taylor.

Hearing things like this makes it feel like Christmas.[/quote]

I bet Taylor doesn't go into '08 wihtout a new contract.

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

[quote=BeastsoftheNFCeast;285903]I dont believe this year is the problem, over the next few years fat paychecks with significant amounts left on bonuses will kick in, so we cant sign big priced guys this year because it will kick us in the rear in a year or so..[/quote]


But every year brings another year of possible cuts, restructures, trades, etc. So, it's hard to project and say we'll be in trouble next year or the year after. You can't just look at what future bonus' may hit without taking everything into consideration.

The Redskins are masters at manuevering under the cap when it counts.

I'm not worried about any year except for this one.

Re: We have cap room!
 

[quote=CrazyCanuck;285895]Mr. Ego, please feel free to merge all these recent cap threads.

Just finished updating my sheets (March 8). Should be on the site soon. This update includes everything (Fletcher, Smoot, restructures, etc.).

I had to do a triple take but it looks like we have cap room! I calculate we have about $9.7M in cap space right now. Plus we can get another $10M or so from more restructures. So we have like $20M left to spend if we want to.

I'll be honest this is uncharted territory for me. How are we gonna spend another $20M? Even if we keep Springs, trade for Bly, trade down and sign 2 first round picks, we'd still have like $10-$15M to play with. I mean we don't even have a single player with a deadcap hit over $500K!

Maybe we'll absorb Arch's $9M cap hit after all? Maybe Mr. Snyder will distribute the excess cap room back to the fans? Or will we really enter a new season with cap room? Schneed am I hallucinating?[/quote]

Seriously, I'm getting woozy!

Now that we have $9.7 million, it tells me that the team is preparing to add a significant contract or two. The team would never want to restructure Portis and Moss if they wanted to stand pat with their current roster. If you're not going to acquire any more big contracts, why push the Moss & Portis cap dollars into the future? If you were going to stand pat with your roster, you'd logically want to let the Portis and Moss cap hits take care of themselves this year, and go into future years in better shape.

We usually only need $4-5 million to take care of our rookies. This tells me that one of a couple different things could be happening:

1) Most likely, Dre Bly is coming to town in that trade we're hearing about.

2) We could be preparing to sign a LG, like that guy from the Ravens (though JLC hasn't said we've made contact yet).

3) Quite likely, we could be preparing to eat a big cap hit from Brandon Lloyd or Archuleta (despite what Gibbs says publicly about them being part of the future). BTW, Springs isn't actually a big cap hit this season, he's on the books for $7 million if he stays and on the books for $7 million if he's traded, so he doesn't factor in really.

4) And then after all our moves, we could be preparing to lock up Cooley before he hits the open market in 2008.

Re: Salary Cap (merged)
 

With all this money maybe in 2008 Red Snapper can finally get PAID! 6 yrs $42 million sound about right? :)

Re: We have cap room!
 

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;285899]Maybe, just MAYBE, we are thinking about resigning Cooley and Taylor.

Hearing things like this makes it feel like Christmas.[/QUOTE]

Agreed 100%!! Thats what I want to hear

Re: We have cap room!
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;285917]Seriously, I'm getting woozy!

Now that we have $9.7 million, it tells me that the team is preparing to add a significant contract or two. The team would never want to restructure Portis and Moss if they wanted to stand pat with their current roster. If you're not going to acquire any more big contracts, why push the Moss & Portis cap dollars into the future? If you were going to stand pat with your roster, you'd logically want to let the Portis and Moss cap hits take care of themselves this year, and go into future years in better shape.

We usually only need $4-5 million to take care of our rookies. This tells me that one of a couple different things could be happening:

1) Most likely, Dre Bly is coming to town in that trade we're hearing about.

2) We could be preparing to sign a LG, like that guy from the Ravens (though JLC hasn't said we've made contact yet).

3) Quite likely, we could be preparing to eat a big cap hit from Brandon Lloyd or Archuleta (despite what Gibbs says publicly about them being part of the future). BTW, Springs isn't actually a big cap hit this season, he's on the books for $7 million if he stays and on the books for $7 million if he's traded, so he doesn't factor in really.

4) And then after all our moves, we could be preparing to lock up Cooley before he hits the open market in 2008.[/QUOTE]

I agree with your analysis.

As for Springs, it makes total sense why the Skins are asking for some kind of cap relief in any deal (as has been reported). He'll cost us $7M whether he's here or not so it doesn't make too much sense to trade him without getting some of that $7M back. We could always make him a June 1 cut and push the bulk of the deadcap to 2008. But considering how much cap room we have this year, there's really no point to push the money to the future.

Re: Salary Cap (merged)
 

Jeeze, why not just KEEP Springs and let him play?

Nice to see the cap wizards here and at redskins park are hard at work! Thanks, all--especially CC.

Re: We have cap room!
 

[quote=Schneed10;285917]Seriously, I'm getting woozy!

Now that we have $9.7 million, it tells me that the team is preparing to add a significant contract or two. The team would never want to restructure Portis and Moss if they wanted to stand pat with their current roster. If you're not going to acquire any more big contracts, why push the Moss & Portis cap dollars into the future? If you were going to stand pat with your roster, you'd logically want to let the Portis and Moss cap hits take care of themselves this year, and go into future years in better shape.

We usually only need $4-5 million to take care of our rookies. This tells me that one of a couple different things could be happening:

1) Most likely, Dre Bly is coming to town in that trade we're hearing about.

2) We could be preparing to sign a LG, like that guy from the Ravens (though JLC hasn't said we've made contact yet).

3) Quite likely, we could be preparing to eat a big cap hit from Brandon Lloyd or Archuleta (despite what Gibbs says publicly about them being part of the future). BTW, Springs isn't actually a big cap hit this season, he's on the books for $7 million if he stays and on the books for $7 million if he's traded, so he doesn't factor in really.

4) And then after all our moves, we could be preparing to lock up Cooley before he hits the open market in 2008.[/quote]

I think Bly will be here, it's only a matter of time before that deal gets done. Denver wants our #6 pick and Bly is the player the Skins want.

I definitely agree on Arch or Lloyd being cut. If I had to guess I'd put my money on Lloyd getting the axe. The fact we haven't cut Patten yet could be an indicator that we're holding our cards to see how things play out.

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

[quote=Mattyk72;285908]We've been hearing that since 2000.

Every year the Skins restructure deals, give out new deals, etc., to avoid cap hell.[/quote]

But last year we were in cap hell, yet were saved by the cba extension. If not for it, we would've purged the roster. Probably could've kept some guys at reduced salary, but a lot would've refused.
CBA or not, I think we'll see a year in the near future where we simply cut a bunch of vets rather than restructure like Tenn. did the last couple years.

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

[quote=freddyg12;286075]But last year we were in cap hell, yet were saved by the cba extension. If not for it, we would've purged the roster. Probably could've kept some guys at reduced salary, but a lot would've refused.
CBA or not, I think we'll see a year in the near future where we simply cut a bunch of vets rather than restructure like Tenn. did the last couple years.[/quote]

A lot of teams would have been in big trouble if it weren't for the CBA extension. If this front office does one thing well, it's finding ways to stretch the cap to it's limit.

By the way, the [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm"]lastest cap sheets [/URL]are now up, thanks CC!

Re: The non-spending sprees will continue
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;286243]By the way, the [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm"]lastest cap sheets [/URL]are now up, thanks CC![/QUOTE]

Thanks Matty.

The sheets include everything except Frost's RFA tender offer ($850K) and the Ross Tucker sigining. After Rule of 51 this will have a net effect of about $500K, brining our cap room down to about $9.2M.