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[QUOTE][B]WR | Terrell Owens | Dallas Cowboys | Fantasy[/B]
Jean-Jacques Taylor, of the Dallas Morning News, reports [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl"]Dallas Cowboys[/URL] WR [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/1608/nfl"]Terrell Owens[/URL] did not know the team's entire playbook last season. Members of the organization knew Owens was not familiar with the playbook. On occasion, QB [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/6174/nfl"]Tony Romo[/URL] and others would have to tell him plays during practice.[/QUOTE]


Got this in a KFFL fantasy update in my email. I thought you'd enjoy it, even if it may not be thread-worthy. :)

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if its not arrington or ramsey, its terrell owens(yawn)

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Well ok, I got a chuckle when you yawned.

At least I didn't say we should trade Portis for him!

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WHO's T.O? Nappy time.....

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Don't care and it does't surprise me that "mr I love me some me" doesn't know his playbook. What a sorry excuse for a football player.

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Not bad for someone who puts up that many yards with a piece of shit QB.

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I guess they must have had the play book and given him a quiz! I'm not much on these types of stories as most are BS. I'm not a TO fan but he has never done anything as a player (on the field) that would lead me to believe this as he always seem prepared to play. Oh, I just read it again and it said "during pratice". Isn't that what pratice is for?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;287764]Not bad for someone who puts up that many yards with a piece of shit QB.[/quote]

So funny...TMC, you have out for Romo.

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I would shit all over his stupid face just to wipe the smirk off of it.

Granted, I'll die a MILLION deaths if he is ANYTHING but below average, because I haven't hated someone so much in a long time. I hate him on a level that I thought unreachable by sport's standards. A hate that burns deep down in my soul.

And it isn't his fault. It's the media's and the fan's. Is it fair? No, but bitch I ain't fair.

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[QUOTE=firstdown;287765]I guess they must have had the play book and given him a quiz! I'm not much on these types of stories as most are BS. I'm not a TO fan but he has never done anything as a player (on the field) that would lead me to believe this as he always seem prepared to play. Oh, I just read it again and it said "during pratice". Isn't that what pratice is for?[/QUOTE]

Practice? I mean, c'mon were talkin' 'bout Practice! During the game, I understand, but practice? c'mon man! it's just practice.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;287768] I hate him on a level that I thought unreachable by sport's standards. A hate that burns deep down in my soul.

And it isn't his fault. It's the media's and the fan's. Is it fair? No, but bitch I ain't fair.[/QUOTE]

I, too, hate him with a soul searing passion that is far out of proportion to his temporary existence as a football player. I, however, refuse to give him a free pass. The media and the fans may have fanned the flames and, at times, outright poured fuel on them. But he is the one who lit them in the first place with his off the field commentary and on-the-field antics.

- Sorry, his "celebrations" were taunts of his opponents and celebrations of his personal acheivement in a team game.

- In Philly, when the media showed up in droves on his driveway, did he do ANYTHING to dissuade the ensuing media circus.

- How many QB's did he throw under the bus?

- His latest sleeping and failure to prepare statements, just the kind of example I hold up for my son on how to take advantage of the gifts given to you.

On top of all that, he consistently plays the victim card as if he had nothing to do with the incredible scrutiny he has brought upon himself. He is the epitome of a poor sport and his failure to acknowledge his own selfishness enrages me.

Okay - done with my rant.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;287784]I, too, hate him with a soul searing passion that is far out of proportion to his temporary existence as a football player. I, however, refuse to give him a free pass. The media and the fans may have fanned the flames and, at times, outright poured fuel on them. But he is the one who lit them in the first place with his off the field commentary and on-the-field antics.

- Sorry, his "celebrations" were taunts of his opponents and celebrations of his personal acheivement in a team game.

- In Philly, when the media showed up in droves on his driveway, did he do ANYTHING to dissuade the ensuing media circus.

- How many QB's did he throw under the bus?

- His latest sleeping and failure to prepare statements, just the kind of example I hold up for my son on how to take advantage of the gifts given to you.

On top of all that, he consistently plays the victim card as if he had nothing to do with the incredible scrutiny he has brought upon himself. He is the epitome of a poor sport and his failure to acknowledge his own selfishness enrages me.

Okay - done with my rant.[/quote]So your saying that when he scored that TD years back and went to stand on the Dallas star you did not get a laugh out of that?

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;287784]I, too, hate him with a soul searing passion that is far out of proportion to his temporary existence as a football player. I, however, refuse to give him a free pass. The media and the fans may have fanned the flames and, at times, outright poured fuel on them. But he is the one who lit them in the first place with his off the field commentary and on-the-field antics.

- Sorry, his "celebrations" were taunts of his opponents and celebrations of his personal acheivement in a team game.

- In Philly, when the media showed up in droves on his driveway, did he do ANYTHING to dissuade the ensuing media circus.

- How many QB's did he throw under the bus?

- His latest sleeping and failure to prepare statements, just the kind of example I hold up for my son on how to take advantage of the gifts given to you.

On top of all that, he consistently plays the victim card as if he had nothing to do with the incredible scrutiny he has brought upon himself. He is the epitome of a poor sport and his failure to acknowledge his own selfishness enrages me.

Okay - done with my rant.[/QUOTE]

I think TMC was talking about Romo.

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[QUOTE=firstdown;287789]So your saying that when he scored that TD years back and went to stand on the Dallas star you did not get a laugh out of that?[/QUOTE]

As unpopular as this may sound to other Skins fans - no, I did not. In fact, it made me angry and all I could think was "What a selfish ass". It was the ultimate in unsportmanship. Owens actions were [B][I]intended[/I][/B] to taunt and show-up both the opposing team and the fans. It was as if he spit in everyone (including his own teammates) faces. Sorry, I don't condone that against anyone or by anyone. Go to Philly if that's what you want to see.

I hate the Cowboys but I hate poor sportsmanship more. As Gibbs said, Win with dignity.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;287795]I think TMC was talking about Romo.[/QUOTE]

Oh, well then, nevermind. lol

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[quote=JoeRedskin;287799]As unpopular as this may sound to other Skins fans - no, I did not. In fact, it made me angry and all I could think was "What a selfish ass". It was the ultimate in unsportmanship. Owens actions were [B][I]intended[/I][/B] to taunt and show-up both the opposing team and the fans. It was as if he spit in everyone (including his own teammates) faces. Sorry, I don't condone that against anyone or by anyone. Go to Philly if that's what you want to see.

I hate the Cowboys but I hate poor sportsmanship more. As Gibbs said, Win with dignity.[/quote]
I agree with what you said but I still found it funny.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;287799]As unpopular as this may sound to other Skins fans - no, I did not. In fact, it made me angry and all I could think was "What a selfish ass". It was the ultimate in unsportmanship. Owens actions were [B][I]intended[/I][/B] to taunt and show-up both the opposing team and the fans. It was as if he spit in everyone (including his own teammates) faces. Sorry, I don't condone that against anyone or by anyone. Go to Philly if that's what you want to see.

I hate the Cowboys but I hate poor sportsmanship more. As Gibbs said, Win with dignity.[/quote]

Well Joe I'll tell you what, you are SO much more a better person than me because I loved it. When he stood on the star in the middle of Texas Stadium I laughed my ass off. It made me feel good because I can remember when the Cowboys said they would break up the Fun Bunch if the Skins did it. Which is something that they did ! I HATED the Cowboys for that. The Cowboys have been thrown in my face as "America's Team" since I was born and it made me feel good to see them disrespected like that. I have been trained to hate the Dallas Cowboys since burth and it is a skill that I have honed since. It also made me feel good that Darren Woodson ( was it ? ) stuck T.O. when he did it because that's what he deserved.

I'm laughing right now thinking about it. Anyhoo, screw T.O. and the Dallas Cowboys !

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Yeah, I'd like to think that I love sportsmanship more, but honestly if Sean Taylor tackled TO, broke him in half and then dropped trow and defected on the remains, there's an evil inside me that would get great enjoyment out of it, even though TO's career would be over.

Seriously, and it's really, REALLY bad to say, but if he had a career-ending injury, part of me would say: "Karma's a bitch." I'm sure that we have some truly good people out there, but I would bet that 75-80% of us would cheer deep down.

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WOW Malcolm, and I thought you hated Tony Romo

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;287804]Well Joe I'll tell you what, you are SO much more a better person than me because I loved it. When he stood on the star in the middle of Texas Stadium I laughed my ass off. It made me feel good because I can remember when the Cowboys said they would break up the Fun Bunch if the Skins did it. Which is something that they did ! I HATED the Cowboys for that. The Cowboys have been thrown in my face as "America's Team" since I was born and it made me feel good to see them disrespected like that. I have been trained to hate the Dallas Cowboys since burth and it is a skill that I have honed since. It also made me feel good that Darren Woodson ( was it ? ) stuck T.O. when he did it because that's what he deserved.

I'm laughing right now thinking about it. Anyhoo, screw T.O. and the Dallas Cowboys ![/quote]
If I'm correct when the Cowboy's tried to break up the high five the fun bunch would do after a TD it almost caused a fight and thats when the NFL stopped these harmless type of celibrations. Now I'm not going to use the word hate as I believe thats a little much when just talking about a sports rivalry. I keep it at that (a rivalry) which is fun to poke at and have fun with but hate is a little strong.

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I'm definitely in the minority.
I am a Terrell Owens FAN. Have been ever since his days in San Fran. I don't particularly care for his mouth, and I hate the teams he plays on, but the man can flat out PLAY football. He's one of, if not THE best WR in the NFL.
I think the media created the TO monster that they now complain about so much. They say all he wants is attention, and yet there they are, day in and day out dissecting every little thing he says.
I think the Eagles screwed him. As has been evident numerous times in the past, Philly undercuts players, and values no one over the age of 30. I think that TO figured out that they were going to cut him before his roster bonus was due, thereby saving themselves their precious cap room, and screwing him out of over half the money he was promised when he went to court to be able to join their team. (I'd be pissed off about it, too.)
I think this past year in Dallas was especially laughable from the media standpoint,, because they made everything he did seem like a HUGE big deal. they speculated to the point that their speculation became supposed fact. For example, The general feelin is TO forced Parcells out. Parcells says completely the opposite, says that he had no better or worse relationship with Owens than any other player. But to the avg. fan, Parcells is lying, and TO did indeed make him leave.
Parcells may be a lot of things, but a liar? I don't know about that.
Now it's about the playbook. Sure, not the best news to float out about a player, but somehow he led the NFL in TD receptions.

Oh yes, he had drops. Most in the league in fact. A challenge is to tell me who led the league in drops in 05 without looking it up. Unless you're a stat fountain odds are you have no idea because the media didn't remind you every single day who it was.
Now, TO had a broken finger, played with it all season, didn't miss a game, and risked permanent damage to his hand so he could play. (But he's a bad team guy, I hear) He's had 3 surgeries on it since the season ended.
And he STILL led the NFL in TD receptions.
If that was Marvin Harrison or Torry Holt leading the NFL in TD receptions while playing thru a broken finger, they'd be building statues in their honor and fawning over how great it is.
TO does it, and it's ingnored, and the fact he's dropping a pass here and there is focused on.. rarely if ever mentioning his broken finger as a possible cause..

Bottom line for me.. take everything the media says about their favorite dartboard with a grain of salt. Then look at the real circumstances and see it for what it is.
In this case, he didn't know the playbook his first year with a new team in a system unlike any he'd played in as a pro. (He's been exclusively in a WCO his entire career.) and everyone thinks that is awful and yet another indicator that he is indeed the Devil. (Not excusing him ...it is what it is.) But I see that and say, yeah, he didn't know it, but he still put up great numbers (over 1000 yds) and again, led the NFL in TDs.

I'm just glad he's afraid of Sean Taylor, cause he's an absolute monster on the football field.

~Bang

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[quote=BangCartoon;287822]I'm definitely in the minority.
I am a Terrell Owens FAN. Have been ever since his days in San Fran. I don't particularly care for his mouth, and I hate the teams he plays on, but the man can flat out PLAY football. He's one of, if not THE best WR in the NFL.
I think the media created the TO monster that they now complain about so much. They say all he wants is attention, and yet there they are, day in and day out dissecting every little thing he says.
I think the Eagles screwed him. As has been evident numerous times in the past, Philly undercuts players, and values no one over the age of 30. I think that TO figured out that they were going to cut him before his roster bonus was due, thereby saving themselves their precious cap room, and screwing him out of over half the money he was promised when he went to court to be able to join their team. (I'd be pissed off about it, too.)
I think this past year in Dallas was especially laughable from the media standpoint,, because they made everything he did seem like a HUGE big deal. they speculated to the point that their speculation became supposed fact. For example, The general feelin is TO forced Parcells out. Parcells says completely the opposite, says that he had no better or worse relationship with Owens than any other player. But to the avg. fan, Parcells is lying, and TO did indeed make him leave.
Parcells may be a lot of things, but a liar? I don't know about that.
Now it's about the playbook. Sure, not the best news to float out about a player, but somehow he led the NFL in TD receptions.

Oh yes, he had drops. Most in the league in fact. A challenge is to tell me who led the league in drops in 05 without looking it up. Unless you're a stat fountain odds are you have no idea because the media didn't remind you every single day who it was.
Now, TO had a broken finger, played with it all season, didn't miss a game, and risked permanent damage to his hand so he could play. (But he's a bad team guy, I hear) He's had 3 surgeries on it since the season ended.
And he STILL led the NFL in TD receptions.
If that was Marvin Harrison or Torry Holt leading the NFL in TD receptions while playing thru a broken finger, they'd be building statues in their honor and fawning over how great it is.
TO does it, and it's ingnored, and the fact he's dropping a pass here and there is focused on.. rarely if ever mentioning his broken finger as a possible cause..

Bottom line for me.. take everything the media says about their favorite dartboard with a grain of salt. Then look at the real circumstances and see it for what it is.
In this case, he didn't know the playbook his first year with a new team in a system unlike any he'd played in as a pro. (He's been exclusively in a WCO his entire career.) and everyone thinks that is awful and yet another indicator that he is indeed the Devil. (Not excusing him it is what it is.) But I see that and say, yeah, he didn't know it, but he still put up great numbers (over 1000 yds) and again, led the NFL in TDs.

I'm just glad he's afraid of Sean Taylor, cause he's an absolute monster on the football field.

~Bang[/quote]I agree with most of what you said here. I'm not a Terrell Owens fan. Never was. Never will be. But the guy is a top 10 receiver in this league.

T.O. definately does a lot of this to himself. He's certainly stupid from the aspect of knowing how to deal with a media that is out to get him. But there's one thing that's very telling.

The average NFL fan thinks T.O. was the reason the 2005 Eagles missed the playoffs. They think it was his presence in the locker room that stole the team from D-Mac and caused them to falter.

Bullsh-t.

McNabb got injured in the first game. That Eagles defense in 2005 was awful. Due to a painful injury and being an already chronically inconsistent player, McNabb and the Eagles offense faltered. They won a few games behind some freak plays (or series of plays) against the Raiders, Chiefs, and Chargers (espicially that blocked FG vs SD, not that I'm complaing after this years Dallas game :food-smil). They weren't a good football team. McNabb got hurt, Westbrook got hurt, both of their lines got decemated.

In a season where things were going right, I doubt Andy Reid would have suspended T.O. for making "comments detremental to the team." But the frusteration had to be boiling over in Philly and Reid wasn't about to take any more crap.

T.O. wouldn't have made a damn difference if he was playing. They still would have been void of talent on both sides of the ball.

But the Eagles locker room was very supportive of T.O. In fact, many reports say that more Eagles sided with T.O. than Donovan. So if this was the case, why does the media paint McNabb to be the golden boy, and T.O. to be the villian? There were at the very least two parties at fault, and McNabb is seen as the victim here.

Look the guy's a great team player. He's gritty and plays realtively well through pain. T.O. is not the prototypical team guy. But that doesn't excuse the media's gross biases in this individual situation. This was crappy, horrible journalism the whole way around.

And when it comes to T.O. crappy journalism is a staple.

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[quote=GTripp0012;287827]I agree with most of what you said here. I'm not a Terrell Owens fan. Never was. Never will be. But the guy is a top 10 receiver in this league.

T.O. definately does a lot of this to himself. He's certainly stupid from the aspect of knowing how to deal with a media that is out to get him. But there's one thing that's very telling.

The average NFL fan thinks T.O. was the reason the 2005 Eagles missed the playoffs. They think it was his presence in the locker room that stole the team from D-Mac and caused them to falter.

Bullsh-t.

McNabb got injured in the first game. That Eagles defense in 2005 was awful. Due to a painful injury and being an already chronically inconsistent player, McNabb and the Eagles offense faltered. They won a few games behind some freak plays (or series of plays) against the Raiders, Chiefs, and Chargers (espicially that blocked FG vs SD, not that I'm complaing after this years Dallas game :food-smil). They weren't a good football team. McNabb got hurt, Westbrook got hurt, both of their lines got decemated.

In a season where things were going right, I doubt Andy Reid would have suspended T.O. for making "comments detremental to the team." But the frusteration had to be boiling over in Philly and Reid wasn't about to take any more crap.

T.O. wouldn't have made a damn difference if he was playing. They still would have been void of talent on both sides of the ball.

But the Eagles locker room was very supportive of T.O. In fact, many reports say that more Eagles sided with T.O. than Donovan. So if this was the case, why does the media paint McNabb to be the golden boy, and T.O. to be the villian? There were at the very least two parties at fault, and McNabb is seen as the victim here.

Look the guy's a great team player. He's gritty and plays realtively well through pain. T.O. is not the prototypical team guy. But that doesn't excuse the media's gross biases in this individual situation. This was crappy, horrible journalism the whole way around.

And when it comes to T.O. crappy journalism is a staple.[/quote]


Agreed. I think TO's main problem with the media is he says whatever is on his mind without self-editing. And as everyone knows, that is the worst thing you can do.

~Bang

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TO is NOT a good team player, because he's divisive and sets truly bad examples (the taunting, the blaming of others, the whole bike riding thing to avoid mini camp).

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;287799]As unpopular as this may sound to other Skins fans - no, I did not. In fact, it made me angry and all I could think was "What a selfish ass". It was the ultimate in unsportmanship. Owens actions were [B][I]intended[/I][/B] to taunt and show-up both the opposing team and the fans. It was as if he spit in everyone (including his own teammates) faces. Sorry, I don't condone that against anyone or by anyone. Go to Philly if that's what you want to see.

I hate the Cowboys but I hate poor sportsmanship more. As Gibbs said, Win with dignity.[/QUOTE]


I'd sure laugh if Moss did it.

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[QUOTE=djnemo65;287961]I'd sure laugh if Moss did it.[/QUOTE]

And what would you say if Owens did it to us? Why would it be acceptable behavior if WE do as opposed to THEM doing it? Sorry, it's classless no matter who does it where.

Also, what would you say about the Cowboy fans who taunt you after Owens does it? Why would that be unacceptable behavior?