RUMOR: Skins looking to trade up for C.J.
 

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This is absurd, if we actually do this I am going to be very upset, and this organization deserves to have a losing season next year if this happens, but PFT is very unreliable so take this with a grain of salt.

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its not goin to happen.who ever started that rumor is ignorant.we are more than likely trading down.probably with denver.

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[quote=rvd420;289057]its not goin to happen.who ever started that rumor is ignorant.we are more than likely trading down.probably with denver.[/quote]

I've come to realize that with Snyder as our owner anything is possible.

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This would NOT surprise me one bit. The guy is a huge talent and he's a bit different from our current WRs. He's like another Sean Taylor, a freak.

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true the snyde doent know football.i still think well trade down to denver for bly and their picks.bly hasnt shown his face in denver since they got him from the lions.

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If the whole organization was there, which could be an exaggeration, it indicates they are interested. I think it would be worth kicking in next year's number one pick to go with our current one to get a Jerry Rice type of prospect. If we do well, next year's pick would be low anyway, and we would have a Hall of Fame type of prospect.

Todd Wade replaces Dockery at guard. I think we are set there on paper. We have our secondary situation under control. We got the new qb of our defense in London Fletcher. I think we look pretty good at linebacker. We need help on the defensive line still. But Carter was coming on strong at the end of the year. We still have a chance to find a free agent or two in a lower price bracket.

Johnson means we are unstoppable on offense, figuratively speaking.

It's a good move. I hope we do it.

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we havent officially signed wade.we need a pass rusher on the right end and snyde at johnsons pro day is just hype made by his agent to get more money.

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This guy is awesome, he would bring alot to the table.
However, the source isn't! PFT......somebody farts and they report!
I'll believe it when I see it?
My personal thought is we will focus in a DIFFERENT AREA?

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If he falls to us at 6, I could come to terms with us selecting him based on how good he is.

HOWEVER, if we trade up to get him, its the dumbest freaking thing i've ever heard of. We have wayyyy to many needs to do somthing like that.

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I don't think we would need to jump all the way to the #2 spot to get CJ. If we got ahead of TB at #4,then I think we could ge him.


Just for the record, I don't like the idea of trading next years picks for any reason.

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[quote=rvd420;289068]we havent officially signed wade.we need a pass rusher on the right end and snyde at johnsons pro day is just hype made by his agent to get more money.[/quote]

Wade has officially signed about a week ago.

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dont count on us tradin up.

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no he didnt our official web sight said we havent signed him yet.

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You have got to be kidding me this trade proposal is insanity, giving away next years #1 is joke to pick up a player we don't even need, and who knows how well he is going to do, You're talking as if he is the second coming of Jerry Rice. Please fellow Redskin fans do not fall into this C.J. hype, we have more pressing needs to worry about than gambling on this overhyped receiver.

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[quote=RMSkins;289080]You have got to be kidding me this trade proposal is insanity, giving away next years #1 is joke to pick up a player we don't even need, and who knows how well he is going to do, You're talking as if he is the second coming of Jerry Rice. Please fellow Redskin fans do not fall into this C.J. hype, we have more pressing needs to worry about than gambling on this overhyped receiver.[/quote]Exactly. Do any of you realize how good he would have to be to justify us taking him at 6 with our defensive line needs? He'd have to be Rice good. Anything else would be a waste of a pick.

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i just dont see us being that stupid with all the needs we still have.

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This is absurd, if we actually do this I am going to be very upset, and this organization deserves to have a losing season next year if this happens, but PFT is very unreliable so take this with a grain of salt.[/quote]


Actually I look at PFT quite alot, and most of the things they talk about actually happen.

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i still say we're trading down.if we trade up it just prooves we havent learned our lesson and snyde should sell the team to someone who knows football.

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[quote=GiantsSuck703;289100]Actually I look at PFT quite alot, and most of the things they talk about actually happen.[/quote]Yeah, but Florio has some iffy sources who feed him his speculation. I don't doubt that everyone was there, but the source that interpreted this to mean we were going to trade up to get him is probably retarded.

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[quote=RMSkins;289075]Wade has officially signed about a week ago.[/quote]
I believe your wrong.
I believe it's still unoffical.

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I'm not buying it.

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whats unofficial

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;289105]I believe your wrong.
I believe it's still unoffical.[/quote]I think there was a story on redskins.com last week but I cant find it now. Maybe they posted it prematurely?

I did, however, find this on Redskins.com today:

[QUOTE]NFL.com's Adam Schefter reports that free agent offensive lineman [B]Todd Wade[/B] has agreed to terms with the Redskins. However, the Redskins have not announced a signing or issued a press release about Wade. [/QUOTE]

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[quote=gibbsisgod;289109]I think there was a story on redskins.com last week but I cant find it now. Maybe they posted it prematurely?

I did, however, find this on Redskins.com today:[/quote]

That's why it unoffical.
NFL.com Adam Schefter has nothing to do with the Redskins.
It's not official until the team makes an announcment.
However, I think we all understand the deal could be done?

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[quote=Daseal;289064]This would NOT surprise me one bit. The guy is a huge talent and he's a bit different from our current WRs. He's like another Sean Taylor, a freak.[/quote]

Well said, well said,.....before the draft, there will be alot of released in the NFL, and adding C.J. makes the redskins the best offensive team in the NFC East......... im might be wrong, but i doubt it?

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this is bull... you can put this in the same category with the other rumor having us taking JaMarcus Russell

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I just can not wait to see us pulling off picking up Johnson and Jamarcus Russell with the number one and two pick... Since I have seen both these rumours floating around, and I think they are both from the same Sportatalk sources.... this is not happening....

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Weren't these the same guys that said the Redskins were trying to trade up to draft Russell?
Like people said during that discussion, we have a top ten pick so it's probably a good idea to check out everyone who we could possibly be in a position to take.

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[quote=Oakland Red;289066]If the whole organization was there, which could be an exaggeration, it indicates they are interested. I think it would be worth kicking in next year's number one pick to go with our current one to get a Jerry Rice type of prospect. If we do well, next year's pick would be low anyway, and we would have a Hall of Fame type of prospect.

Todd Wade replaces Dockery at guard. I think we are set there on paper. We have our secondary situation under control. We got the new qb of our defense in London Fletcher. I think we look pretty good at linebacker. We need help on the defensive line still. But Carter was coming on strong at the end of the year. We still have a chance to find a free agent or two in a lower price bracket.

Johnson means we are unstoppable on offense, figuratively speaking.

It's a good move. I hope we do it.[/quote]

This guy could be Jerry Rice good. He is the best player in the draft. He would make our whole offense MUCH better the minute he steps on the field. He's 6'5 240 and runs a 4.35???????? Plus has great hands and a great attitude? Can you imagine trying to stop this guy in the red zone? Just imagine the PI's he would draw. So if you have a chance to pick a guy like this you do it. But I would not go messing around with next year's number one pick in order to move up to get him. But if it's a 3rd or 4th rounder I would do it. You don't hear anyone saying this about Gaines Adams or Alan Branch do you?

But our D-line is a mess. Carter may have had some good pass rush games but he still played like shit against the run. Daniels can't pass rush anybody. Joe S. and Goldston are BIG questionsmarks and even Griff's play has slipped. So we need major help here. And if our d-line doesn't improve then the whole defense will suffer.

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[quote=100% PURE WHOOP ASS;289115]Well said, well said,.....before the draft, there will be alot of released in the NFL, and adding C.J. makes the redskins the best offensive team in the NFC East......... im might be wrong, but i doubt it?[/quote]

Yea, your probably wrong.
What wins the big game??? BIG D, where we need the MOST help!
If I had to guess we would be trading down....more picks. Not the other way around.
This source is CRAP. Don't Believe!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;289124]Yea, your probably wrong.
What wins the big game??? BIG D, where we need the MOST help!
If I had to guess we would be trading down....more picks. Not the other way around.
This source is CRAP. Don't Believe![/QUOTE]

I have to disagree with being wrong ~That much fire power on offense we would be virtually unstoppable... Plus there is always june 1st cuts to make changes on D. But the way the cards are stacked right now we will draft defense.

The thought of a Portis, Betts, Moss, Cooley, Randle el, And Johnson plus the young arm of Campbell that would scare anyone in the NFL Period. He is the new age Art Monk..., what we've been missing

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I think this is in the exact same category as JaMarcus Russell rumors: something floated by his agents trying to boost his value. I don't buy for a second.

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I keep hearing people talking about all of our needs. I'm not seeing us with a ton of needs. I think we're fairly well set at secondary with PP back, a SS would be nice, but I wouldn't call that a need. Smoot/Springs (or Bly)/ and Rogers is a solid CB core. London Fletcher, Marcus Washington, and Marshall/Rocky at WLB, our D line does need some help. Im not sold that Wynn and Daniels are completely done and I like what I've seen from Golston. This is our biggest need.

On offense we need some line depth, something you can get late in the draft. Our WRs are okay, I would like to see us get a big blocking TE, yet again another late round selection, RB we're set at, and QB we're fine.

I don't see the skins with any pressing needs besides Dline that would keep us from taking the best available player. It all depends on what trading up would cost.

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due diligence people. anyone that could possibly fall to them has to be scouted for the draft, and for future FA periods. their job is to see as many prospects as possible, so these stupid rumors popping up every time someone sneezes at a pro day are ridiculous.

if he does fall to 6 for some reason an they didn't bother doing their homework, they'd look pretty f'ing stupid. they need to see if he's worth taking there (just in case) or giving away in a trade down. due diligence.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;289129]I have to disagree with being wrong ~That much fire power on offense we would be virtually unstoppable... Plus there is always june 1st cuts to make changes on D. But the way the cards are stacked right now we will draft defense.

The thought of a Portis, Betts, Moss, Cooley, Randle el, And Johnson plus the young arm of Campbell that would scare anyone in the NFL Period. He is the new age Art Monk..., what we've been missing[/quote]

I agree, that would be sick. But if our defense performs like it did this past season we won't go anywhere again. We need D-lineman as badly as any team in the league. I think our offense will be just fine with or without CJ.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;289129]I have to disagree with being wrong ~That much fire power on offense we would be virtually unstoppable... Plus there is always june 1st cuts to make changes on D. But the way the cards are stacked right now we will draft defense.

The thought of a Portis, Betts, Moss, Cooley, Randle el, And Johnson plus the young arm of Campbell that would scare anyone in the NFL Period. He is the new age Art Monk..., what we've been missing[/quote]

Wrong about what?

That was my point, how else are you gonna get CJ .....the draft.?
Do you really believe we will draft up? No, I don't think so.
Do you believe CJ is gonna be there at #6 if we don't move at all? Not.
Look at the source it's PFT,......it would be great to get this guy.
However, I don't see the SKINS going up in the draft. Do you?? we need more picks in the draft.

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[quote=GTripp0012;289104]Yeah, but Florio has some iffy sources who feed him his speculation. I don't doubt that everyone was there, but the source that interpreted this to mean we were going to trade up to get him is probably retarded.[/quote]


I dont see us trading up, I just think its one of those things were "if he falls...". Werent we interested in Robert Gallery and attended his workouts also? I just think there looking at everything, with that said I would not be disappointed to see him in DC

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It seems like every year there's a WR/TE whose workout makes everybody freak out like this...

2007 - Calvin Johnson
2006 - Vernon Davis
2005 - Braylon Edwards
2004 - Larry Fitzgerald / Kellen Winslow Jr
2003 - Charles Rogers / Andre Johnson

And for every Larry Fitz, Andre Johnson or Roy Williams there are plenty players like Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Bryant Johnson, Ashlie Lelie, David Terrell, Koren Robinson, Rod Gardner, Peter Warrick, David Boston, Michael Westbrook or Desmond Howard who are high 1st round picks that have been busts or have had disappointing careers.

If you could go back to 1996 and have the Jets # 1 overall pick.. would you choose Keyshawn Johnson? Or would you rather have Simeon Rice at 3 Ogden at 4 or a better WR Marvin Harrison at 19... How about Ray Lewis at 26. If you went back in time and told the Jets that Harrison was going to be a better WR then Keyshawn they would have called you a fool.

Back in 2005 it seemed like 75% of Skins fans out there wanted us o draft Mike Williams... (Too bad we weren't talking Shawne Merriman or Demarcus Ware). I hope this year we aren't seduced by the sexy WR at the top of the draft and trade up to pick CJ... Although if he somehow lasts to 6 we HAVE to take him!

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Excellent post.

The only thing is you can't coach/develop superior atheleticism so people will always be enamored with it. Your right though it doesn't always pan out.

[quote=DGreene28;289150]It seems like every year there's a WR/TE whose workout makes everybody freak out like this...

2007 - Calvin Johnson
2006 - Vernon Davis
2005 - Braylon Edwards
2004 - Larry Fitzgerald / Kellen Winslow Jr
2003 - Charles Rogers / Andre Johnson

And for every Larry Fitz, Andre Johnson or Roy Williams there are plenty players like Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Bryant Johnson, Ashlie Lelie, David Terrell, Koren Robinson, Rod Gardner, Peter Warrick, David Boston, Michael Westbrook or Desmond Howard who are high 1st round picks that have been busts or have had disappointing careers.

If you could go back to 1996 and have the Jets # 1 overall pick.. would you choose Keyshawn Johnson? Or would you rather have Simeon Rice at 3 Ogden at 4 or a better WR Marvin Harrison at 19... How about Ray Lewis at 26. If you went back in time and told the Jets that Harrison was going to be a better WR then Keyshawn they would have called you a fool.

Back in 2005 it seemed like 75% of Skins fans out there wanted us o draft Mike Williams... (Too bad we weren't talking Shawne Merriman or Demarcus Ware). I hope this year we aren't seduced by the sexy WR at the top of the draft and trade up to pick CJ... Although if he somehow lasts to 6 we HAVE to take him![/quote]

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Yes, good point. Still want CJ, though. I think you have to make good judgments about people and not get enamored with physical ability when it isn't accompanied with a team spirit and a professional approach to playing.

You could say the same thing in reverse about Jerry Rice. People didn't think so much about him because they didn't think he quite had the speed, and he was from a small school. People would have gone to great lengths to have gone back and drafted him afterward.

We will be lucky if he is available even for two number ones anyway. But I think the team has learned from experience and will only make this move if all the indicators about his personality, spirit, and ability look good.



[quote=DGreene28;289150]It seems like every year there's a WR/TE whose workout makes everybody freak out like this...

2007 - Calvin Johnson
2006 - Vernon Davis
2005 - Braylon Edwards
2004 - Larry Fitzgerald / Kellen Winslow Jr
2003 - Charles Rogers / Andre Johnson

And for every Larry Fitz, Andre Johnson or Roy Williams there are plenty players like Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Bryant Johnson, Ashlie Lelie, David Terrell, Koren Robinson, Rod Gardner, Peter Warrick, David Boston, Michael Westbrook or Desmond Howard who are high 1st round picks that have been busts or have had disappointing careers.

If you could go back to 1996 and have the Jets # 1 overall pick.. would you choose Keyshawn Johnson? Or would you rather have Simeon Rice at 3 Ogden at 4 or a better WR Marvin Harrison at 19... How about Ray Lewis at 26. If you went back in time and told the Jets that Harrison was going to be a better WR then Keyshawn they would have called you a fool.

Back in 2005 it seemed like 75% of Skins fans out there wanted us o draft Mike Williams... (Too bad we weren't talking Shawne Merriman or Demarcus Ware). I hope this year we aren't seduced by the sexy WR at the top of the draft and trade up to pick CJ... Although if he somehow lasts to 6 we HAVE to take him![/quote]