Diehardskin2982 presents "My Skins Draft Strategy"
 

There are two approaches that the skins could have in this years draft. 1~trade down or 2~stay put. Personally I could be happy with either one because I see some major play makers in the top of this draft and there is so much talent in this draft that trading down could be usefull. Below is my strategy, tell me what you folks think and present the options that you would do.

Round1:
I would trade down to hopefully the Bills position and draft Amobi Okoye of Louisville with the 12th pick. (hopefully gaining their 1st, second, and 4th round pick.

Round2 (Bills43 pick): Charles Johnson DE Georgia~ I would also consider Josh Wilson here because of his speed (reminds me of D.Green). The D-line needs to be fixed ASAP.

Round 4 (bills Pick): Rueben Riley OG Michigan he has the size and potential but would be a project for Joe Bugel to turn into a monster.

Round 5: Travarous Bain CB Hampton ~ Although this transfer from Miami played in a lesser division of college football his combination of size and speed warrants a chance to crack the roster (6-0 1/8 174)

Round 6: Anthony Waters MLB Clemson~ good size had a injury that he has to rehabilitate but could spend a year learning the defense, playing special teams and watching London fletcher.

Round 6 (Bears): Prince Prempeh WR Marist- 6-3 183 and not scared to go over the middle... Special teams anyone?

Round 7: Quinn Pitcock DT Ohio State ~ great size and potential, needs coaching

Wildcard: I would consider getting back into the late 1st early second to take a stab at Meriweather he would compliment Sean Taylor well and boost our secondary.

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its seems like the skins are getting lucky this year. when they desperately need d linemen, there appears to be an abundance of good ones to choose from. good post

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has pitcock really dropped to the 7th round? i saw him being projected as a first rounder not too long ago

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I did alot of my research from different draft magazine and it seems he has fallen tremindously, If he is not on the board I would take either Conrad bolston of Maryland, Zack West of UTEP or Kelly Talavou of Utah

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I don't think Okoye would last to twelve, but if Adrian Peterson does fall all the way to us, I could see the Bills being interested.

I'm not sure who we would get at 12 if Okoye was gone. Branch, maybe? Gaines Adams?

Good post though, looks like you've done some solid research.

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If Okoye is around at 12 he'd be a no-brainer. The thing is, there is SO MUCH D-line talent up and down the board in the 1st/early 2nd rounds....

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The question now is: Does the Texans exit from the Brady Quinn sweepstakes put an end to the trade-down talk? However, the Vikes are one pick after us, and they want Quinn. Maybe someone wants to sneak by the love boaters and pick Brady Bunch up. We'll probably have to wait till draft day for that answer. How much interest do the Bills have in our number 6?

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Hey, good post.

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I really doubt Pitcock will fall to the 7th round.

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The Mock is fine but you did not pick anyone who would help us with our red-zone scoring, which was just about as bad as our defense last season.

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[quote=RMSkins;290955]I really doubt Pitcock will fall to the 7th round.[/quote]

Could he fall to the 6th?

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[quote=GoSkins!;290959]Could he fall to the 6th?[/quote]

I doubt it. I see Pitcock going in the 3rd or 4th.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;290882]There are two approaches that the skins could have in this years draft. 1~trade down or 2~stay put. Personally I could be happy with either one because I see some major play makers in the top of this draft and there is so much talent in this draft that trading down could be usefull. Below is my strategy, tell me what you folks think and present the options that you would do.

Round1:
I would trade down to hopefully the Bills position and draft Amobi Okoye of Louisville with the 12th pick. (hopefully gaining their 1st, second, and 4th round pick.

Round2 (Bills43 pick): Charles Johnson DE Georgia~ I would also consider Josh Wilson here because of his speed (reminds me of D.Green). The D-line needs to be fixed ASAP.

Round 4 (bills Pick): Rueben Riley OG Michigan he has the size and potential but would be a project for Joe Bugel to turn into a monster.

Round 5: Travarous Bain CB Hampton ~ Although this transfer from Miami played in a lesser division of college football his combination of size and speed warrants a chance to crack the roster (6-0 1/8 174)

Round 6: Anthony Waters MLB Clemson~ good size had a injury that he has to rehabilitate but could spend a year learning the defense, playing special teams and watching London fletcher.

Round 6 (Bears): Prince Prempeh WR Marist- 6-3 183 and not scared to go over the middle... Special teams anyone?

Round 7: Quinn Pitcock DT Ohio State ~ great size and potential, needs coaching

Wildcard: I would consider getting back into the late 1st early second to take a stab at Meriweather he would compliment Sean Taylor well and boost our secondary.[/quote]

I think C.J. Gaddis would be a better pick in the 5th instead of Travarous Bain, I also think we should make a run for a safety to compliment Taylor, I think our SS situation is very shaky. I like the Anthony Waters pick in the 6th.

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[QUOTE=RMSkins;290962]I think C.J. Gaddis would be a better pick in the 5th instead of Travarous Bain, I also think we should make a run for a safety to compliment Taylor, I think our SS situation is very shaky. I like the Anthony Waters pick in the 6th.[/QUOTE]

that is what i considered with my wildcard pick

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great post, is there any background reason for the Bills prediction?

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The play of our front seven last year mandates we make a serious effort to address that area, so drafting for immediate need would IMO be the appropriate way to go. We need to build to defend in the NFC east against teams that love to run the ball. None of us want to witness another season where our defende was gashed up front in the running game like last year. The Giant game is still fresh in my mind when Eli Manning converted nine consecutive 3rd downs. We MUST get better against the run,and be able to establish enough of a pass-rush to get teams off the field on 3rd down. Therefore, improving the D-Line is an absolute must.

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Good post. I am also a fan of trading out of the 6th spot for more selections. That would ultimately assist our D-line the most. We sack threatening D-lineman on the double.

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[quote=GTripp0012;290929]I don't think Okoye would last to twelve, but if Adrian Peterson does fall all the way to us, I could see the Bills being interested.

I'm not sure who we would get at 12 if Okoye was gone. Branch, maybe? Gaines Adams?

Good post though, looks like you've done some solid research.[/quote]

carriker.

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in the fifth, i'd take a shot with courtney brown (6'2" 41.5" vert 4.35 CB). fairly production corner from cal poly... might be worth a look.

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[quote=Longtimefan;291035]The play of our front seven last year mandates we make a serious effort to address that area, so drafting for immediate need would IMO be the appropriate way to go. We need to build to defend in the NFC east against teams that love to run the ball. None of us want to witness another season where our defende was gashed up front in the running game like last year. The Giant game is still fresh in my mind when Eli Manning converted nine consecutive 3rd downs. We MUST get better against the run,and be able to establish enough of a pass-rush to get teams off the field on 3rd down. Therefore, improving the D-Line is an absolute must.[/quote]

I really do not think that this going to happen, we may get one defensive lineman and that will probably it for this season even if we do trade down. We have to realize that we have 2 probable starters on the line already next season in Carter and Golston. Big Joe is not going anywhere so he will be in the rotation and so will Daniels and Griff, Montgomery and, probably Sykes. We can only have but so many defensive lineman so we will probably get ONE more. I think that all of this defensive line talk is a trickle down effect started by our fans. One fan started it, it sounded good and then everybody else just joined in and now we have Mock drafts on every Redskin message board with the Redskins taking 3-4 defensive lineman but we are not going to do that because we simply do not have the room.

I can almost assure you that after we draft that one defensive lineman that the Redskins are going to start to work on getting a player or 2 in D.C. to help us score in the red-zone.

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;291025]great post, is there any background reason for the Bills prediction?[/QUOTE]

I could see the bills moving up because they have so many holes in their team. for the most part I've seen Amobi going to STL and so trading down with a team like the Bills would possibly still leave us in position to draft him. I would be honestly satisfied if we took either branch or okoye. I kinda like the idea of Branch moving down cause we can move down get some picks and still get him.


Thatguy with that size and speed on Courtney Brown I'd go after him as well. I haven't heard too much about him... why isn't he being talked about, what are his flaws?

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[QUOTE=riggoraider;291137] I think that all of this defensive line talk is a trickle down effect started by our fans. One fan started it, it sounded good and then everybody else just joined in and now we have Mock drafts on every Redskin message board with the Redskins taking 3-4 defensive lineman but we are not going to do that because we simply do not have the room.

I can almost assure you that after we draft that one defensive lineman that the Redskins are going to start to work on getting a player or 2 in D.C. to help us score in the red-zone.[/QUOTE]


I have to disagree, it's not that we don't have scoring options... We have multiple scoring options.... regaurdless of what he did last year brandon lloyd was the #1 reciever for SF when he was there.

Gibbs has said multiple times the skins are to "run the football and stop the run". I could see Branch comming here because if they made the transition of putting Golston in the starting lineup Branch would be the ideal space eater to replace Griffin eventually and match up with Golston. but the pressure that okoye could bring to the qb would help the line as well... It starts up front we have to stop the run and bring pressure from the front four~ we haven't done that for a long time...

The offense will be alot better this year; however with that better play opposing teams will be that much more aggressive offensively to try to keep up with our Offense so that is why it is important make shore the defense is top notch

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[quote=diehardskin2982;291139]I have to disagree, it's not that we don't have scoring options... We have multiple scoring options.... regaurdless of what he did last year brandon lloyd was the #1 reciever for SF when he was there.

Gibbs has said multiple times the skins are to "run the football and stop the run". I could see Branch comming here because if they made the transition of putting Golston in the starting lineup Branch would be the ideal space eater to replace Griffin eventually and match up with Golston. but the pressure that okoye could bring to the qb would help the line as well... It starts up front we have to stop the run and bring pressure from the front four~ we haven't done that for a long time...

The offense will be alot better this year; however with that better play opposing teams will be that much more aggressive offensively to try to keep up with our Offense so that is why it is important make shore the defense is top notch[/quote]

I am not opposed to getting Okoye, in fact, I would love to see him in burgandy and gold but it is all this other dreaming that I am reading about that is not going to happen because we do not have the wherewithal to pull those type of miracles off.

The F.O. has addressed the linebacker, corner and safety positions this offseason to where, if Springs is coming back, that they are probably not going to do anything else with those three positions. After drafting one lineman we will be, probably, be looking at our defense for next season. I just hope that we stay healthy this season, if so we are not going to have a bad defense.

I agree, that we are a run the football team, we were like #4 in the league last season on the ground but we were like 20th in scoring so we are going to have to do something about getting the ball in the end zone and I think that that will be worked on with a middle round pick, if we can get one higher than 5. If not we will probably use our 5th round pick for improvement because after last season I do not know how much confidence Gibbs and Saunders has in Lloyd .

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[quote=diehardskin2982;291138]I could see the bills moving up because they have so many holes in their team. for the most part I've seen Amobi going to STL and so trading down with a team like the Bills would possibly still leave us in position to draft him. I would be honestly satisfied if we took either branch or okoye. I kinda like the idea of Branch moving down cause we can move down get some picks and still get him.


Thatguy with that size and speed on Courtney Brown I'd go after him as well. I haven't heard too much about him... why isn't he being talked about, what are his flaws?[/quote]

probably that he's just not that great, but he'd be competing with ade jimoh, so it's not like he has to be a world beater to help right away. and he could be pretty good on teams as well. the whole hope is that insanely overpaid and overqualified coaching staff can figure out how to turn him into a useable starter. if it doesn't happen, a teams/4th corner for a #5 wouldn't be a terrible use of the pick.

some else mentioned two starters on the DL being set with carter and golston? do you mean griff and no one else? carter is very one dimensional, and golston is no better than a #3 until he proves otherwise. If we got a DT and a DE in the first two rounds, that would be a GREAT draft, cause we really need at least one of each right now.

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[quote=That Guy;291130]carriker.[/quote]Yeah, him.


:boxing:

Ok, I'm better now.

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riggo that is why I hope Campbell progresses this year if he can utilize [B]ALL[/B] of our weapons on Offense we'd be hard to stop

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Wow, an actual agent on our site. That's kinda cool

Welcome to the board!

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Where did you get the information about the Bills involved in our pick?
It would be an interesting scenario, we need some extra picks in later rounds and we can trade down and still find something for our needs.
If we go to n. 12 overall Alan Branch and Jamaal Anderson might be there, so Adam Carriker. I don't think that Adams and Okoye will be around.
At this point, I hope they trade down for real.

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I wrote this a while ago and the buzz on Okoye has made him a top 6 pick so ur right in thinking that he won't be there at 12.

I figured the buffalo trade because they need a running back bad. Also there may be an option for a trade with Greenbay if Peterson fallls... but right now I have no idea what are we gonna do