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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-27-2007 06:11 PM

Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, Chicago is not interested in the proposed trade involving Briggs and the Redskins 1st rounder. All worked up over nutin.

Lady Brave 03-27-2007 06:15 PM

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Official count on first calling this story BS...

Matty = 1
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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-27-2007 06:17 PM

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I'm excited, I'm still praying we try move down 2-3 spots and nab Okoye and another pick.

Good call Matty.

Defensewins 03-27-2007 06:18 PM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;292020]According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, Chicago is not interested in the proposed trade involving Briggs and the Redskins 1st rounder. All worked up over nutin.[/QUOTE]

How about the now fact that the offer was ever made. I know some folks here are very upset that the Redskins wanted this trade. While I am not upset about it, I have to agree that the trade would not been great for the Redskins.
This Redskins front office should consider not making trades. They seem not to end up on the losing end of the trades.

Gmanc711 03-27-2007 06:18 PM

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[QUOTE=Lady Brave;292021]Official count on first calling this story BS...

Matty = 1
Members = 0[/QUOTE]

Well....if we OFFERED the trade, thats not really BS.

Ie; the people who were worked up were the right ones, not The Ego ;)

Defensewins 03-27-2007 06:20 PM

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[QUOTE=Lady Brave;292021]Official count on first calling this story BS...

Matty = 1
Members = 0[/QUOTE]

The story wasn't BS. The offer was made by the Redskins. It was confirmed on ESPN by Drew R. and Mort.

RedskinPete 03-27-2007 06:23 PM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;292022]I'm excited, I'm still praying we try move down 2-3 spots and nab Okoye and another pick.

Good call Matty.[/QUOTE]Good not getting another pick in the deal was a breaker for me! So Let Briggs sit out the season and the Bears in joy that!

Riggo44 03-27-2007 06:25 PM

Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
Thank you lord. This trade sucked for us imo.

Defensewins 03-27-2007 06:25 PM

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[QUOTE=RedskinPete;292026]Good not getting another pick in the deal was a breaker for me! So Let Briggs sit out the season and the Bears in joy that![/QUOTE]

The Bears must think they can get a better deal. I am not sure why they would reject this deal. They would be stupid to take a $7M cap hit this year for Briggs.
There must be another team ready to offer more

Lady Brave 03-27-2007 06:25 PM

Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
Sorry, I forgot humor was not allowed when discussing trade rumors. Carry on with the FO criticism.

That is all...

Defensewins 03-27-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
[QUOTE=Lady Brave;292029]Sorry, I forgot humor was not allowed when discussing trade rumors. Carry on with the FO criticism.

That is all...[/QUOTE]
Humor?
Oh! Ha HA
Keep your day job.

itvnetop 03-27-2007 06:28 PM

Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
If the Bears shot it down, they did us a huge favor... our FO actually proposed this???

RedskinPete 03-27-2007 06:31 PM

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;292028]The Bears must think they can get a better deal. I am not sure why they would reject this deal. They would be stupid to take a $7M cap hit this year for Briggs.
There must be another team ready to offer more[/QUOTE]
If there is another team with a better offer then good luck with that!

Lady Brave 03-27-2007 06:38 PM

Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
[quote=Defensewins;292030]Humor?
Oh! Ha HA
Keep your day job.[/quote]

Seriously... not necessary.

redskinsfanatic 03-27-2007 06:57 PM

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i think that trading for briggs would be great.there is a good chance there will be some great defensive players left at the end of round 1.

Lady Brave 03-27-2007 07:03 PM

Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
[quote=Gmanc711;292024]Well....if we OFFERED the trade, thats not really BS.

Ie; the people who were worked up were the right ones, not The Ego ;)[/quote]

Darn you and your logic. :)

Rosenhaus started this mess and as far as I can tell the only quote we had was "Snyder confirmed the offer to FoxSports". Who at FoxSports? Every other outlet seemed to run with it after that. Given that Snyder doesn't typically talk to the media, perhaps there was just a little bit of spinning going on.

redskins5044 03-27-2007 07:09 PM

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the bears arent interested right now. but when then get back home from after the nfl onwer meetings they will realize that this is probably the best offer they will get

MTK 03-27-2007 07:15 PM

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Shocker.

wushawn 03-27-2007 08:14 PM

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ok, just so im clear, this trade is or is not goin to happen? and i agree, i cant believe the skins were even considering this.

freddyg12 03-27-2007 08:15 PM

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Maybe the Bears are posturing to show Briggs how much they value him, then offer him a little more once the season nears. That way both sides can save face. They are a smart but stingy front office, they will try to either get 2 1st rounders, offer him a little more (like 35 mil, 7 yrs.), or let him holdout.

I appreciate what anybody on here has said, we don't need to keep chasing other team's property, but on paper this was a good deal for the Skins & that's why the Bears rejected it.

I was just thinking who might spring for Briggs? I can't come up w/any ideas. Philly has been LB shopping, but he's expensive & will cost picks, something they don't like to give up. The G-men could be in the running.
New Orleans? Maybe they think they're a player away?

MTK 03-27-2007 08:17 PM

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[quote=wushawn;292068]ok, just so im clear, this trade is or is not goin to happen? and i agree, i cant believe the skins were even considering this.[/quote]

It's not happening and if you ask me it was never a serious offer in the first place.

Slash83 03-27-2007 08:21 PM

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Its the offseason just a little excitement for your day.

freddyg12 03-27-2007 08:22 PM

Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
Does anyone think that Snyder intentionally low-balled the offer? He may have offered the same deal we gave AA & Loyd, which would be a steal in this market. That may be why the deal fell through, since it was contingent on a long-term contract for Briggs. Snyder may have made a one-time offer. If he did, you couldn't blame him for trying. How would people here feel if we got Briggs for something like 10-12 mil signing bonus?

The Bears may have just spinned it to say they're not interested.

freddyg12 03-27-2007 08:28 PM

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Tampa Bay could be interested in him, since he's from the same D scheme, but I don't think Gruden would want to miss a chance to draft CJ.

wilsowilso 03-27-2007 08:36 PM

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Let this nonsense be done with! If we really offered this deal and Chicago turned it down they would be nuts and thats why I doubt it ever was offered as reported.

Chief X_Phackter 03-27-2007 08:39 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;292072]It's not happening and if you ask me it was never a serious offer in the first place.[/quote]

Just Snyder kicking ideas around while throwing down a few Manhattans probably. I would expect more of this kind of nonsense up until draft day. We don't want to tip our hand with our real plans now do we?

GTripp0012 03-27-2007 08:49 PM

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[quote=Lady Brave;292021]Official count on first calling this story BS...

Matty = 1
Members = 0[/quote]Matty deserves at least 0.9 points for his true to his beliefs hard line stance, but I'm taking 0.1 credit for myself for [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/291844-post228.html"]this post[/URL].

That's right.

wilsowilso 03-27-2007 09:00 PM

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I think I should get 0.1 credit as well.

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/17600-nfl-network-bears-briggs-31st-pick-4.html#post291576[/url]

RMSkins 03-27-2007 09:20 PM

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Great news, it's still a little disconcerning that Snyder was even thinking about doing this, and I thought we might have seen a change in the tide, guess not, unless this was a joke Snyder, and Rosenhaus had planned, which is great if it was. Good one Danny Boy.

djnemo65 03-27-2007 09:26 PM

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I can't help but think there is something very fishy here, and I will be shocked if this actually happens.

I said that. Holla atcha boy

Schneed10 03-27-2007 09:31 PM

Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
[quote=Mattyk72;292072]It's not happening and if you ask me it was never a serious offer in the first place.[/quote]

There's a good chance Rosenhaus stirred all this up.

Or maybe the Skins actually offered it and the Bears saved our asses.

Either way, it ain't goin down, so it's fine by me.

Dirtbag59 03-27-2007 10:05 PM

Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
[quote=Schneed10;292095]There's a good chance Rosenhaus stirred all this up.

Or maybe the Skins actually offered it and the Bears saved our asses.

Either way, it ain't goin down, so it's fine by me.[/quote]

Maybe the FO read our poll and came to their senses. Personally I'm not so crazy about this deal anymore, I'd rather get Akoye and a pass rushing end in the 2nd round then Briggs and a pass rushing end. Then again Marcus and London aren't getting any younger, but thats why we have Rocky. I don't know maybe I'm confused.

Dirtbag59 03-27-2007 10:09 PM

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[B]Bears say 'No' to Briggs deal[/B]


[SIZE=1][COLOR=#555555]posted: [I]Tuesday, March 27, 2007[/I] | [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=2815187&type=blogEntry"][COLOR=#000000]Print Entry[/COLOR][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE]

The Bears are saying no to a [B]Lance Briggs[/B] trade to Washington. That stand won't change during this week's owners meeting, but don't be surprised if they take the weekend and the early part of next week to study the concept.
The Redskins are willing to drop from No. 6 in the first round to No. 31 in a trade for the Bears linebacker. The Bears biggest problem is feeling bullied, which is why their initial position is "No."
Briggs' agent, [B]Drew Rosenhaus[/B], has a great relationship with Redskins owner [B]Daniel Snyder[/B], so it's no surprise he could use Snyder to shake up the Bears. The other problem is the Bears don't want to draft as high as No. 6. Still, this might be an interesting offer for a franchise player threatening to miss 10 regular season games. Give them the weekend to think about it.

GTripp0012 03-28-2007 12:59 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;292095]There's a good chance Rosenhaus stirred all this up.

Or maybe the Skins actually offered it and the Bears saved our asses.

Either way, it ain't goin down, so it's fine by me.[/quote]Maybe it was an April Fools Day joke planned by Snyder and Rosenhaus...

which almost turned out catastrophic.

Oakland Red 03-28-2007 02:49 AM

Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
The trade is definitely still a possibility. The shifting desert sands of rumorland are full of mirages. However, now we have the Bears publicly saying they are thinking it over. So that is real.

They say they weren't expecting this offer and want to consider it before deciding.

[URL="http://www.southernillinoisan.com/articles/2007/03/27/ap-state-il/d8o4scfg3.txt"]:: TheSouthern.com - The Southern Illinoisan ::[/URL]

It seems to me they'll take the trade, getting a young player who will be less impactful on the cap, with more years ahead of him than Briggs, and who will be top tier in talent.

If it happens, we'll get a proven player who will lift us defensively. I don't buy this overconcern about the defensive line. We have players there, and we will have possibly the Bears' first round choice to bring in a bright prospect, probably a defensive lineman. Yes, we need to improve there, but the situation isn't dire like some fans think as far as I am concerned.

The Redskins would get two, really good, (probably) defensive players instead of just one with the sixth pick.

offiss 03-28-2007 04:41 AM

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If the trade offer is true I think it's only a matter of time before it happens, the Bears figured if we are dumb enough to make this deal we might be dumb enough to kick something else in, and thier probably right.

I think all we need is one more LB and we are on our way, Briggs should make all the difference in the world, let the Bears trade down and draft a LB who's unproven to play on a championship caliber team, they will probably deal down and end up with 2 pro bowlers. As for us we will find that Briggs is not a pass rusher which is what we need, nor can he take on opposing guards and tackles which is something else we need. So let's get a LB who will get knocked into the parking lot by lineman with the likes of Andre Carter getting man handled by TE's leaving tackles and guards to pancake Briggs. Not to worry after a couple of weeks of talking about this trade they will have everyone believing what a great move it is, until we actually see we are getting a good LB not a great LB, and still need D-linemen, a safety, and a front line CB, and a guard.

The fact that we even made this proposal [if true] just shows the utter stupidity and incompetency of all involved.

vaoutlaws2006 03-28-2007 06:53 AM

Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade
 
I think i would have went to redskin park and knocked some heads had they gone through with a trade for that bone head.

johnjaywilliams 03-28-2007 07:54 AM

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yo the FO is really crazy i wounder is it one person that making these calls or is it a group of crazy ass suckers. i am glad this trade is not going to happened.

SC Skins Fan 03-28-2007 08:01 AM

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[quote=offiss;292132]If the trade offer is true I think it's only a matter of time before it happens, the Bears figured if we are dumb enough to make this deal we might be dumb enough to kick something else in, and thier probably right.

I think all we need is one more LB and we are on our way, Briggs should make all the difference in the world, let the Bears trade down and draft a LB who's unproven to play on a championship caliber team, they will probably deal down and end up with 2 pro bowlers. As for us we will find that Briggs is not a pass rusher which is what we need, nor can he take on opposing guards and tackles which is something else we need. So let's get a LB who will get knocked into the parking lot by lineman with the likes of Andre Carter getting man handled by TE's leaving tackles and guards to pancake Briggs. Not to worry after a couple of weeks of talking about this trade they will have everyone believing what a great move it is, until we actually see we are getting a good LB not a great LB, and still need D-linemen, a safety, and a front line CB, and a guard.

The fact that we even made this proposal [if true] just shows the utter stupidity and incompetency of all involved.[/quote]

Despite the vitriol of the criticism I think I have to agree with most points here. Lance Briggs is not the answer, he is just another high priced player groomed by another team. If we actually kept a couple of our draft picks maybe we could draft guys like Briggs in the Third Round (i.e. Cooley and Dock) and develop them ourselves rather than having to look to other teams to develop talent. Do the Redskins have so little faith in their scouting department that they don't even think they can score a Pro Bowl caliber player at the #6 overall pick? I went back and looked at Briggs' stats and, as Offhiss said, he has never proven himself a pass rusher, never having more than, I think, 2.5 sacks in a season. I guess he could be sort of a Derrick Brooks-style Willie Backer, but is there no chance that Rocky can be that guy? He was the 34th overall pick last year, basically a first round talent. If we have already busted out on the 34th pick then what makes everyone think whoever they get at 31 will be any good.

Two things occurred to me when I heard the Bears had apparently rejected the trade. It was a BAD move for both teams and apparently the Bears don't see anyone they really need at #6 and right after that I thought that they are posturing for something else. Hell if Danny thinks dropping 25 picks is a steal for a franchise player (b/c they normally cost two first right! What a business man, great deal!) then maybe they can squeeze out a future 2nd or 3rd as well. Hell we gave up Champ (at one of the top 3 most elite positions) and a 2nd for Portis (who I love, but who plays a non-elite position); we gave up a 3rd for Brunell who would have gotten cut and when no one else would have traded anything more than a 6th; we gave up a 3rd and a 4th for Llyod. Hell, if the Bears hold out long enough maybe they can get Dan to throw in Redskins One as part of the package along with our entire draft for the next three years. I thought this was finally the offseason when the Redskins just played it conservatively, that lasted less than a MONTH! Hopefully all of this is moot and the Bears have saved us, but I'm not so sure that is the case...I think we might hear more about this before it is done.

Beemnseven 03-28-2007 08:07 AM

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Glad to finally see a rational, clear-thinking GM finally steps in and makes the right decision for the Redskins.

Now if we could only get Jerry Angelo to work for us.


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