Day 3 of Briggs saga, JLC and Co. think the odd's are better than 50-50?
 

With the third day of this Briggs soap opera. JLC and co. think the odds are a little better than 50-50 that he's ending up in DC.

I think the odds are greater, maybe 75-25 we end up with this guy?

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Re: Day 3 of Briggs saga, JLC and Co. think the odd's are better than 50-50?
 

i'd hope we don't. LBs are one of the easiest things to find.

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50/50, wow that really narrows it down.

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[quote=Mattyk72;292914]50/50, wow that really narrows it down.[/quote]


well said

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[quote=That Guy;292913]i'd hope we don't. LBs are one of the easiest things to find.[/quote]


you just know that we are

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;292914]50/50, wow that really narrows it down.[/QUOTE]

Now now, he did say [I]better[/I] than 50/50.

Don't you think that if there truly were nothing to this, that the story would have died?

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[quote=Beemnseven;292930]Now now, he did say [I]better[/I] than 50/50.

Don't you think that if there truly were nothing to this, that the story would have died?[/quote]


This has gone from a rumor no one could believe to a probability. This should be the final nail in the organization of the front office in the aspect of how talent is selected and draft picks are utilized, the only problem is that the Skins will pay for this front office organization for years to come.

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[QUOTE=paulskinsfan;292936]This has gone from a rumor no one could believe to a probability. This should be the final nail in the organization of the front office in the aspect of how talent is selected and draft picks are utilized, the only problem is that the Skins will pay for this front office organization for years to come.[/QUOTE]

Thanks! I have warm and fuzzy feelings inside after reading that. Of course, I do have gas right now! j/k

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Here is another article on the Briggs deal stating that the Bears want more out of us

[url=http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/318363,CST-SPT-bear29.article]Bears want more in trade for Briggs :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Bears[/url]

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[QUOTE=Tha Posse;292945]Here is another article on the Briggs deal stating that the Bears want more out of us

[url=http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/318363,CST-SPT-bear29.article]Bears want more in trade for Briggs :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Bears[/url][/QUOTE]

Well yeah what else would they say?

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[quote=Beemnseven;292930]Now now, he did say [I]better[/I] than 50/50.

Don't you think that if there truly were nothing to this, that the story would have died?[/quote]

This is true matty, it's at least 51-49

I have a feeling this story isn't ending until they land BRIGGS in DC.

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I thought they were hovering around the pick swap deal still, but now their getting greedy

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[QUOTE=paulskinsfan;292936]This has gone from a rumor no one could believe to a probability. This should be the final nail in the organization of the front office in the aspect of how talent is selected and draft picks are utilized, the only problem is that the Skins will pay for this front office organization for years to come.[/QUOTE]

I don't like this trade. Not one damn bit.

The only way I could be a little less infuriated with bringing in Briggs, is if the plan is to go to a 3-4, in which case we'd STILL need another defensive lineman. Or if Marcus Washington truly is hurt, and has an injury that could threaten his career. That's all speculation of course, and the Skins aren't saying anything to that effect one way or the other, as they shouldn't.

I still maintain though, that adding whichever linebacker you like -- Dick Butkus in his prime, LT in his prime, Wilbur Marshall, whoever -- none of those guys would matter to the overall performance of the defense when they are making tackles well past the line of scrimmage as the front four is getting eaten alive.

Then there's the aspect of losing whatever bargaining value we had for trading down for more picks ...

Ugh. I just don't like it. If the Bears or any other team were offering a defensive lineman on the level of Briggs, and we could get the 31st pick -- I'd jump all over it.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;292946]Well yeah what else would they say?[/QUOTE]

Hopefully this will be enough to scuttle the deal.

I must say, whether or not this happens I was of the opinion that this was complete BS and It appears I was completely wrong.

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Gibbs and the FO must not think our current crop of LB's is worth much. I can see trying to sign a couple veteran offensive linemen, we need depth at the very least, but LB was a solid position for us I thought. IF this story is true that the Bears want more out of us for Briggs, then I say we nix the deal. We can get a decent young LB with a upper middle pic like a 3rd rounder if we wanted to. All I hope is that these guys have some sort of plan layed out with the moves they are making and not doing things on the run like they seem to have been doing for a long time.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;292951]Ugh. I just don't like it. If the Bears or any other team were offering a defensive lineman on the level of Briggs, and we could get the 31st pick -- I'd jump all over it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, like Rosenhaus' other Chicago client Tommie Harris

Gmanc and I went back and forth on this. I want that #37 pick from Chicago (used to be ours) along with Briggs and the #31, if we make the deal. Gmanc says we'd have to give up Rocky. I say LeMar and a mid-round pick in 2008.

But we'll just say Rocky here. So #6, Rocky to Chicago for Briggs, #31, and #37. Draft DT Justin Harrell at #31. Trade the #37 to the Jets for the #59 and the #63. Draft DE Quentin Moses and um...I don't know...DB Daymeion Hughes?

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i'd trade the #6 straight up for tommy harris :P

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[QUOTE=That Guy;292958]i'd trade the #6 straight up for tommy harris :P[/QUOTE]

Honestly we might "lose" techincally with the deal according to the charts....but if we could get a 2-3rd round pick in the deal too, i'd pull the trigger on that too.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;292955]Gibbs and the FO must not think our current crop of LB's is worth much. I can see trying to sign a couple veteran offensive linemen, we need depth at the very least, but LB was a solid position for us I thought. IF this story is true that the Bears want more out of us for Briggs, then I say we nix the deal. We can get a decent young LB with a upper middle pic like a 3rd rounder if we wanted to. All I hope is that these guys have some sort of plan layed out with the moves they are making and not doing things on the run like they seem to have been doing for a long time.[/quote]

Captain Gus, based off last year, what would make you or Gibbs think that we are in good shape at LB?

Now with Fletcher signed, I agree with some optimism, but any evaluation of linebacker play from last year's game tape would only end up with a trash can full of vomit!

I agree with you on sweetening the deal. If they want Marshall, they can go F themselves. I wonder if they would do it for Montgomery instead of Golston?

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;292973]Captain Gus, based off last year, what would make you or Gibbs think that we are in good shape at LB?

Now with Fletcher signed, I agree with some optimism, but any evaluation of linebacker play from last year's game tape would only end up with a trash can full of vomit!

I agree with you on sweetening the deal. If they want Marshall, they can go F themselves. I wonder if they would do it for Montgomery instead of Golston?[/quote]
Agree with the vomit. Briggs, Washington, Fletcher would make up for poor D-line play. Not totally but least our Lbs wont be pushed around by guards (like Marshall) anymore. Give them L.M. but throw in their 6th or something. Wheel and deal!!! Even without 6th, Marshall just be sitting unless dime package ANYWAY.

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Just to show how stupid we are, we are the ones pushing for this deal, how about allowing Briggs to pigeon hole the Bears first to the point they are ready to make a better deal for us? If Gibbs and co. were playing texas hold'em thier hole cards would be dealt face up.

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[quote=SmootSmack;292957]Yeah, like Rosenhaus' other Chicago client Tommie Harris

Gmanc and I went back and forth on this. I want that #37 pick from Chicago (used to be ours) along with Briggs and the #31, if we make the deal. Gmanc says we'd have to give up Rocky. I say LeMar and a mid-round pick in 2008.

But we'll just say Rocky here. So #6, Rocky to Chicago for Briggs, #31, and #37. Draft DT Justin Harrell at #31. Trade the #37 to the Jets for the #59 and the #63. Draft DE Quentin Moses and um...I don't know...DB Daymeion Hughes?[/quote]

Getting the #37 pick would change things substantially (of course it is just getting back what was once ours and once again making up for a past mistake rather than actually moving forward). In any case, that would change things, but I just don't see the Bears giving up that pick unless they have a similar disregard for their picks as the Redskins "FO" has for theirs.

P.S.

Being 50-50 actually does clear things up because it should be 0% chance. The Redskins having some things in place tentatively, waiting until draft day, seeing if they can deal down a few spots, get more picks and then (if they REALLY want Briggs) making the deal for like the 8th or 10th pick and Briggs. Complicated and maybe unfeasable, but this trade should not happen in the first place. Can anyone show me an instance of a team trading out of the top 10 all the way to #31? Is there any precedent here?

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We should've considered Briggs before signing Fletcher. This team does stuff backwards. I manage my roster on Madden better than Gibbs and Co. does...

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[quote=EXoffender;293253]We should've considered Briggs before signing Fletcher. This team does stuff backwards. I manage my roster on Madden better than Gibbs and Co. does...[/quote]

I think we needed FLETCH, clearly.
We would be just fine without BRIGGS. I think signing FLETCH was the first or at least one of the first moves we had to make, I think they got that right.
LB is way down on the wish list.