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skinsfan_nn 04-18-2007 01:40 PM

Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
Looks like the Bucs are going after Calvin Johnson.
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SmootSmack 04-18-2007 01:55 PM

Re: Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
They'll get screwed if CJ goes #1, although I think it will probably be Russell

dmek25 04-18-2007 01:59 PM

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the bucs offensive line was next to horrible last year. i don't think Johnson will cure that

gibbsisgod 04-18-2007 02:11 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;299079]They'll get screwed if CJ goes #1, although I think it will probably be Russell[/quote]They are not exactly set at QB. They could use JR just as much as the Raiders.

SmootSmack 04-18-2007 02:35 PM

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But didn't they just trade for Plummer and sign Garcia, plus they still have Simms

dmek25 04-18-2007 02:41 PM

Re: Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
you know the old saying. if you think you have more than one quarterback, you dont really have any

irish 04-18-2007 02:52 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;299079]They'll get screwed if CJ goes #1, although I think it will probably be Russell[/QUOTE]

I think Quinn could go before JR and surprise a lot of people.

Schneed10 04-18-2007 03:03 PM

Re: Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
This is still in rumor stages, and apparently PFT is getting the scoop from the local stations in Tampa.

I highly doubt they've actually made the deal with the Lions yet, and I doubt they'd do it before draft day. Why would you? Wouldn't you want to wait and see if Calvin Johnson gets past the Raiders?

If anything, I'll bet they're just talking about what the Lions would want if CJ fell to #2. If this deal goes down, I'm guessing it'd be on draft day.

skinsfan_nn 04-18-2007 03:17 PM

Re: Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
[quote=SmootSmack;299116]But didn't they just trade for Plummer and sign Garcia, plus they still have Simms[/quote]


Yes they did. Not to mention I think I would take Quinn over Russell.
If they do get CJ that will be a HUGE difference maker for that or any team.

The last I heard the QB job was up for grabs, wouldn't be surprised if Garcia wins it.

GoSkins! 04-18-2007 03:26 PM

Re: Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
Still a big risk to move up early.

GTripp0012 04-18-2007 04:08 PM

Re: Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
[quote=skinsfan_nn;299163]Yes they did. Not to mention I think I would take Quinn over Russell.
If they do get CJ that will be a HUGE difference maker for that or any team.

The last I heard the QB job was up for grabs, wouldn't be surprised if Garcia wins it.[/quote]Well, the only teams that wouldn't benefit from taking Brady Quinn is a team who has a young QB who will be better than Brady Quinn will be.

We fall into this category. Tampa Bay does not.

Quinn helps them more than Adrian Peterson would for sure.

I think the best thing the Bucs can do to help their team is to draft Gaines Adams or Joe Thomas though, but Quinn definately solidifies a unstable QB situation there. It would also be the death sentence for the career of the loser of the Garcia-Simms battle for the starting role.

redskins159 04-18-2007 04:46 PM

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The bucs just seem to be a team in constant haze. They have about 20 starting QBs on the team. They have Garcia, Plummer, Simms and Gradkowski. It appears they are lacking direction They seem to be unhappy with the run game. The defense is really old. I think they would be better served by trading down then up. They have cap problems and a lot of holes to fill. They should never have let Dwyane White walk. They should just trade down and try to fill some of their offense and defensive holes. Barber, Brooks and Rice cannot play forever, they need some youth.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-18-2007 05:02 PM

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[quote=dmek25;299083]the bucs offensive line was next to horrible last year. i don't think Johnson will cure that[/quote]


yeah but gruden loves that bastard

TheMalcolmConnection 04-18-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
Is it just me or has Gruden gotten chub from a draft prospect the past three years?

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-18-2007 05:19 PM

Re: Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;299225]Is it just me or has Gruden gotten chub from a draft prospect the past three years?[/quote]

no ur right

GusFrerotte 04-18-2007 05:38 PM

Re: Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Quinn go before Russell. To be honest I did not hear much about Russell til his awesome showing at the combine, since I am in Big Ten country. He might have the cannon, but does he have the rest of the package that is needed to make it in the NFL? I simply do not see Brady Quinn doing jack in the NFL. He will be the next Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey, and David Carr.

skinsfan_nn 04-18-2007 06:38 PM

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Source: PFT.com, Dead for now. SKINS moving UP?

POSTED 4:42 p.m. EDT, April 18, 2007

BUCS-LIONS DEAL DEAD, FOR NOW

A source with knowledge of the situation tells us that the trade talks between the Lions and Buccaneers for a flip-flop of the No. 2 overall pick and the No. 4 overall pick are dead. For now.

But the source says that the Lions also are talking to the Redskins and Falcons about a possible trade of first-round, top-ten picks. And the Cardinals (we're told) contacted the Lions for the first time on Wednesday to discuss the spot.

The Redskins hold the No. 6 pick, the Falcons hold the No. 8 pick, and the Cardinals hold the No. 5 pick.

The source also says that the Lions are confused by the Redskins' interest in moving up, since Washington doesn't have many other 2007 picks to offer. In addition to the sixth overall selection, the 'Skins have a fifth-round pick, two sixth-round picks, and a seventh-round selection.

We're also told that the Lions prefer to make the trade before the draft. We recently heard that if no trade is accomplished before noon on April 28 and if receiver Calvin Johnson is available at No. 2, the Lions would select him and then trade his rights to the highest bidder. Apparently, the Lions have figured out that actually drafting Johnson and then sending him to someone else would open the organization up to plenty of criticism if Johnson becomes a superstar (especially in light of the team's past misadventures with top-ten receivers). It would be far better to get out of the No. 2 spot before the picks start to fly.

TenandSix:Unacceptable 04-18-2007 07:49 PM

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Geez, not that it would happen because we aren't in position to do so really, but what would we do at 2 with no CJ? Yikes. No one else in the top five serves us any purpose.

TenandSix:Unacceptable 04-18-2007 07:52 PM

Re: Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
I guess we could draft Quinn or Russell and Sell to the highest bidder. That sounds risky but fun. =)

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-18-2007 09:35 PM

Re: Lions and Bucs to possibly work a trade of picks.
 
[quote=TenandSix:Unacceptable;299279]I guess we could draft Quinn or Russell and Sell to the highest bidder. That sounds risky but fun. =)[/quote]


once again that is the dumbest thing that i have ever read



..............................for now!

freddyg12 04-19-2007 08:04 AM

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Seems we would have to give somebody to the Lions to make the deal work. There's only 1 guy I would be willing to deal & the LIons might actually be dumb enough to bite - B. Loyd!

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-19-2007 11:10 AM

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or we could we leave them alone and keep the 6th pick


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