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I'm happy for Cleveland and their fans...I think they had a good draft and they are on their way to turning that franchise around.
Getting Joe Thomas and Brady Quinn is something they only thought about in their wettest of dreams. But they also got a good DB in Eric Wright (UNLV), and I've heard good things about DE Melila Purcell (Hawaii).
Add to the draft, they signed RB Jamal Lewis, and OL Eric Steinbach and they are looking good. They most certainly upgraded at a lot of positions, and should easily see close to a .500 season this year.

To me there are only 3 teams with die hard fans, by die hard, I mean their persona is wrapped up in their fans. That's of course, Washington, Green Bay, and Cleveland. It's good to see Cleveland making a game of it again.

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They're looking good on paper, we'll see how things play out for real.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;304963]They're looking good on paper, we'll see how things play out for real.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, if any team's fans know that a team looks good on paper it's SKins fans. How many times have we looked go on paper just to be disappointed?

I am actually not a fan of Jamal Lewis...they will need to upgrade there. There is a reason Baltimore let him walk away.

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Is LeCharles Bentley done for good? If not, they have potentially three Pro Bowl players on their line.

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[quote=jsarno;304961]I'm happy for Cleveland and their fans...I think they had a good draft and they are on their way to turning that franchise around.
Getting Joe Thomas and Brady Quinn is something they only thought about in their wettest of dreams. But they also got a good DB in Eric Wright (UNLV), and I've heard good things about DE Melila Purcell (Hawaii).
Add to the draft, they signed RB Jamal Lewis, and OL Eric Steinbach and they are looking good. They most certainly upgraded at a lot of positions, and should easily see close to a .500 season this year.

To me there are only 3 teams with die hard fans, by die hard, I mean their persona is wrapped up in their fans. That's of course, Washington, Green Bay, and Cleveland. It's good to see Cleveland making a game of it again.[/quote]

I think you can add in KC and Denver too. They have great NFL fans in those cities.

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They should be much improved?

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I'll go out on a limb (not much of a limb) and say Quinn is going to have a very good NFL career. Good luck to the Browns, they've been bad for too long.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;304988]Is LeCharles Bentley done for good? If not, they have potentially three Pro Bowl players on their line.[/QUOTE]

Last I heard he got one of Cleveland's patented staff infections and it had caused a lot more damage to his knee. It sounded like he was very likely done at worst and barely able to play at best. In any case I don't think he can be considered pro bowl material anymore.

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I have a close friend who lives just outside of Cleveland and he's a huge Browns fan. He's said he almost came during the first round of the draft. That city and it's fans are at a fever pitch right now. I'm happy for them.

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[quote=GMScud;305023]I have a close friend who lives just outside of Cleveland and he's a huge Browns fan. He's said he almost came during the first round of the draft. That city and it's fans are at a fever pitch right now. I'm happy for them.[/quote]

Haha! Thats hilarious! Wish the skins wouldve traded down or added more picks.

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eric wright is a steal in the third round. he was SC's lockdown corner a few years ago. if he doesn't do anything boneheaded (ie, get caught selling 136 tabs of ecstasy on campus- that's what led to his transfer to UNLV), he'll be their top corner in a few seasons.

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If they sign Darius Walker they'll have a better chance of making it through this year. Recently I heard that the Cowboys have already set their sights on Darren McFadden, the RB from Arkansas who has been deemed as an LT type back. I know Walker isn't the solution at RB but I feel he can be to Browns as Leon Washington was to the Jets last year.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;305038]If they sign Darius Walker they'll have a better chance of making it through this year. Recently I heard that the Cowboys have already set their sights on Darren McFadden, the RB from Arkansas who has been deemed as an LT type back. I know Walker isn't the solution at RB but I feel he can be to Browns as Leon Washington was to the Jets last year.[/QUOTE]

I think the Bears signed Walker

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;305003]I think you can add in KC and Denver too. They have great NFL fans in those cities.[/QUOTE]

There are plenty of cities that love their teams, but very few that live and breathe their teams (ie: Washington, Green Bay, and Cleveland). Denver loves their broncos, no doubt about it, but they also have a very strong love for their Avalanche. K.C. has some great fans, but not those top 3 I already mentioned IMO.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;305038]If they sign Darius Walker they'll have a better chance of making it through this year. Recently I heard that the Cowboys have already set their sights on Darren McFadden, the RB from Arkansas who has been deemed as an LT type back. I know Walker isn't the solution at RB but I feel he can be to Browns as Leon Washington was to the Jets last year.[/QUOTE]

McFadden could be the #1 pick at some point. I'm sure there will be plenty of teams looking at him.

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they are kind of like the Arizona Cardinals of the AFC. every year they look good on paper, and every year they suck

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[QUOTE=jsarno;305063]There are plenty of cities that love their teams, but very few that live and breathe their teams (ie: Washington, Green Bay, and Cleveland). Denver loves their broncos, no doubt about it, but they also have a very strong love for their Avalanche. K.C. has some great fans, but not those top 3 I already mentioned IMO.[/QUOTE]

The biggest phonies are Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, and Ravens fans. Those guys only conveniently decide to start liking football when their team is doing well.

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[quote=djnemo65;305083]The biggest phonies are Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, and Ravens fans. Those guys only conveniently decide to start liking football when their team is doing well.[/quote]

I hate the eagels.

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Not in 2007. They look good on paper, but so do most teams.

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[quote=jsarno;304961]I'm happy for Cleveland and their fans...I think they had a good draft and they are on their way to turning that franchise around.
Getting Joe Thomas and Brady Quinn is something they only thought about in their wettest of dreams. But they also got a good DB in Eric Wright (UNLV), and I've heard good things about DE Melila Purcell (Hawaii).
Add to the draft, they signed RB Jamal Lewis, and OL Eric Steinbach and they are looking good. They most certainly upgraded at a lot of positions, and should easily see close to a .500 season this year.

To me there are only 3 teams with die hard fans, by die hard, I mean their persona is wrapped up in their fans. That's of course, Washington, Green Bay, and Cleveland. It's good to see Cleveland making a game of it again.[/quote]

I would like to share your view but i just cant, when you are a bad team year after year its not a good idea to give up next years first round pick to take a QB, even if its Brady Quinn. They definately picked up some good players but I just dont see them doing anything this year, there defense is pretty suspect. They didnt give Charlie Frye enough of a chance, and they refused to play Lee Suggs when he was actually healthy, what a waste. LaCharles Bently is DONE, his knee has fallen apart and will most likely retire, thats pretty sad because he was one hell of a player. Brady Quinn was a good QB, but never really had the ability to take over a game and really rode the hype train all the way through college, much the same way as Joey Harrington so beware. Jamal Lewis has been horrible since he went to prison, and that was running behind Jonathan Ogden. There team is just to inconsistent and just not talented enough to do anything this year or even next year for that matter, I still cant believe they passed on Adrian Peterson, Joe Thomas is good but so was Robert Gallary.

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[QUOTE=NM Redskin;305103]Not in 2007. They look good on paper, but so do most teams.[/QUOTE]


Well, you and giantssuck seem to agree...but I just have a hunch they will come near or be .500 this year. They are well coached, and showed great improvement last year on D. If they can show the same improvement on O, then they will easily be .500.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;305076]they are kind of like the Arizona Cardinals of the AFC. every year they look good on paper, and every year they suck[/QUOTE]

They just haven't been anything good since coming into the league. Even though they kept the name, they are an expansion team. The Cards just flat out suck...no comparison...they are the laughing stock of the NFL. I'm calling it...the Browns are turning it around with this year's draft. They drafted 3 pro bowlers this year!

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[quote=itvnetop;305037]eric wright is a steal in the third round. he was SC's lockdown corner a few years ago. if he doesn't do anything boneheaded (ie, get caught selling 136 tabs of ecstasy on campus- that's what led to his transfer to UNLV), he'll be their top corner in a few seasons.[/quote]

Damn that's alot of pills. Anybody got his phone number? Ecstasy is some good stuff! :-)

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[quote=jsarno;305063]There are plenty of cities that love their teams, but very few that live and breathe their teams (ie: Washington, Green Bay, and Cleveland). Denver loves their broncos, no doubt about it, but they also have a very strong love for their Avalanche. K.C. has some great fans, but not those top 3 I already mentioned IMO.[/quote]

I went to one game at Arrowhead back in the mid 90's. We played KC when Gus was our QB. It was an experience that I will never ever forget. Total college atmosphere. The only thing I could compare it to was RFK. The fans are about as crazy as any place I have ever seen. I could not even hear myself think.

I will say this. Fed Ex is a terrible stadium. It's not like the old days. Way to corporate and way to much of a wine and cheese crowd. RFK was a true home field advantage. It was a shithole but I miss that shithole!

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[quote=djnemo65;305083]The biggest phonies are Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, and Ravens fans. Those guys only conveniently decide to start liking football when their team is doing well.[/quote]

Eagles fans are simply the worst. No class at all. But I respect Giants fans. They are good loyal smart NFL fans.

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[quote=skinsfan69;305197]Eagles fans are simply the worst. No class at all. But I respect Giants fans. They are good loyal smart NFL fans.[/quote]

Crazy but true, I have friends that are Cowboys fans and Giants fans, but never have I ever met an Eagles fan that was level headed enough to allow into my company as even an associate.

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[quote=GiantsSuck703;305132]I would like to share your view but i just cant, when you are a bad team year after year its not a good idea to give up next years first round pick to take a QB, even if its Brady Quinn. They definately picked up some good players but I just dont see them doing anything this year, there defense is pretty suspect. They didnt give Charlie Frye enough of a chance, and they refused to play Lee Suggs when he was actually healthy, what a waste. LaCharles Bently is DONE, his knee has fallen apart and will most likely retire, thats pretty sad because he was one hell of a player. Brady Quinn was a good QB, but never really had the ability to take over a game and really rode the hype train all the way through college, much the same way as Joey Harrington so beware. Jamal Lewis has been horrible since he went to prison, and that was running behind Jonathan Ogden. There team is just to inconsistent and just not talented enough to do anything this year or even next year for that matter, I still cant believe they passed on Adrian Peterson, Joe Thomas is good but so was Robert Gallary.[/quote]

Giving up next years #1 was just a reach. And of all people they gave it to Dallas. I would have went with Derrick Anderson and drafted a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;305199]Crazy but true, I have friends that are Cowboys fans and Giants fans, but never have I ever met an Eagles fan that was level headed enough to allow into my company as even an associate.[/QUOTE]

Eagles fans are absolutely horrible. I can't stand most Cowboys fans, they are annoying. Giants fans I can deal with.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;304961]I'm happy for Cleveland and their fans...I think they had a good draft and they are on their way to turning that franchise around.
Getting Joe Thomas and Brady Quinn is something they only thought about in their wettest of dreams. But they also got a good DB in Eric Wright (UNLV), and I've heard good things about DE Melila Purcell (Hawaii).
Add to the draft, they signed RB Jamal Lewis, and OL Eric Steinbach and they are looking good. They most certainly upgraded at a lot of positions, and should easily see close to a .500 season this year.

To me there are only 3 teams with die hard fans, by die hard, I mean their persona is wrapped up in their fans. That's of course, Washington, Green Bay, and Cleveland. It's good to see Cleveland making a game of it again.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you on this topic. I do think that Cleveland has been putting together a nice young team. They have young players at the skilled positions (Edwards, Winslow, and now Quinn). They seem to be getting there deffense on the same page. It will take a little bit of time but they are on the right path, IMO.

Hopefully for their sake they will give ol' Romeo enough time to put things in order...

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588;305231]I agree with you on this topic. I do think that Cleveland has been putting together a nice young team. They have young players at the skilled positions (Edwards, Winslow, and now Quinn). They seem to be getting there deffense on the same page. It will take a little bit of time but they are on the right path, IMO.

Hopefully for their sake they will give ol' Romeo enough time to put things in order...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I am a little disappointed to hear Romeo is on the hot seat. He did revive a HORRIBLE D, he needs some time to turn around a ship that is going in completely the opposite direction.

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[quote=jsarno;305238]Yeah, I am a little disappointed to hear Romeo is on the hot seat. He did revive a HORRIBLE D, he needs some time to turn around a ship that is going in completely the opposite direction.[/quote]

The problem with the world today is that everyone wants instant gratification, and patience is a long lost virtue. Most good things take time to accomplish, but noone is willing to allow for that.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;305241]The problem with the world today is that everyone wants instant gratification, and patience is a long lost virtue. Most good things take time to accomplish, but noone is willing to allow for that.[/QUOTE]

That's very true...but you would think the NFL owners would recognize this.

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[quote=jsarno;305243]That's very true...but you would think the NFL owners would recognize this.[/quote]

You try telling a bunch of spoiled rich kids that they can't have what they want right now.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;305245]You try telling a bunch of spoiled rich kids that they can't have what they want right now.[/QUOTE]

Good point.
I still feel that they will win around 8 games...and that of course will save his job.

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[quote=jsarno;305253]Good point.
I still feel that they will win around 8 games...and that of course will save his job.[/quote]
I hope you're right for 2 reasons. Romeo deserves it, and Cleveland has sucked long enough. I need another underdog to pull off upsets during the season.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;305254]I hope you're right for 2 reasons. Romeo deserves it, and Cleveland has sucked long enough. I need another underdog to pull off upsets during the season.[/QUOTE]

Every year there is a worst to first scenario, I wonder who will be this year...other than of course...THE SKINS!

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I am going to go on a limb and say Oakland, because they have the D to do it.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;305263]I am going to go on a limb and say Oakland, because they have the D to do it.[/QUOTE]

Holy freakin crap...that is a tiny little limb to be hanging on. You might be the only one on it. They may double their wins, but that still means they will come in last place. That team sucks top to bottom.

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[quote=jsarno;305267]Holy freakin crap...that is a tiny little limb to be hanging on. You might be the only one on it. They may double their wins, but that still means they will come in last place. That team sucks top to bottom.[/quote]

That is why it is a good first to last story.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;305272]That is why it is a good first to last story.[/QUOTE]


they would need to make a movie out of that turn around...it would easily be the best of all time.