Im not alone, am I....? (next year's draft)
 

Who is excited about having all of our draft picks for next year? I know I am. I know we are all fried on pretty much anything having to do with the draft. But Im so frickin tickled pink about having all of our picks in 08, for right now anyway, that I cant wait for next years draft already! Are their any real hardcore draft junkies here that have info on some of the expected top players for next year? Or am I just crazy to even be thinking about it? Ive only had 2 tasty beers (new castle,mmm) so I know thats not the cause of my premature excitement. Maybe Im just in shock, oh well. What do you guys think?

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[quote=SkinEmAll;305697]Who is excited about having all of our draft picks for next year? I know I am. I know we are all fried on pretty much anything having to do with the draft. But Im so frickin tickled pink about having all of our picks in 08, for right now anyway, that I cant wait for next years draft already! Are their any real hardcore draft junkies here that have info on some of the expected top players for next year? Or am I just crazy to even be thinking about it? Ive only had 2 tasty beers (new castle,mmm) so I know thats not the cause of my premature excitement. Maybe Im just in shock, oh well. What do you guys think?[/quote]


no i am excited about all of them too

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A lot can happen between now and April 2008, so we may not have all our draft picks by then. And I'm more excited for the season than for next year's draft.

As for some names:

That DE dude out of USC-Jackson?
Dexter Manley's son from Oregon
Chris Long (Howie's son) DE out of UVA
Brian Brohm QB Louisville

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[quote=SkinEmAll;305697]Who is excited about having all of our draft picks for next year? I know I am. I know we are all fried on pretty much anything having to do with the draft. But Im so frickin tickled pink about having all of our picks in 08, for right now anyway, that I cant wait for next years draft already! Are their any real hardcore draft junkies here that have info on some of the expected top players for next year? Or am I just crazy to even be thinking about it? Ive only had 2 tasty beers (new castle,mmm) so I know thats not the cause of my premature excitement. Maybe Im just in shock, oh well. What do you guys think?[/quote]

Well, free agency isn't over yet. No guarantee all those draft picks will still be there before training camp starts. Frankly I wouldn't mind dumping a 3rd or 4th rounder for Kris Jenkins. Here's a link from SI on their top 25 prospects going into next year:

[URL="http://www4.cnnsi.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0704/gallery.nfl.2008.draft.candids/content.1.html"]SI.com - Photo Gallery - Top 25 NFL Draft Candidates for 2008[/URL]

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[quote=GMScud;305702]Well, free agency isn't over yet. No guarantee all those draft picks will still be there before training camp starts. Frankly I wouldn't mind dumping a 3rd or 4th rounder for Kris Jenkins. Here's a link from SI on their top 25 prospects going into next year:

[URL="http://www4.cnnsi.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0704/gallery.nfl.2008.draft.candids/content.1.html"]SI.com - Photo Gallery - Top 25 NFL Draft Candidates for 2008[/URL][/quote]


and the washingtonpost.com says that gibbs has said that us tradins some 2008 picks arent out of the question

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[quote=SmootSmack;305700]A lot can happen between now and April 2008, so we may not have all our draft picks by then. And I'm more excited for the season than for next year's draft.

As for some names:

That DE dude out of USC-Jackson?
Dexter Manley's son from Oregon
Chris Long (Howie's son) DE out of UVA
Brian Brohm QB Louisville[/quote]

Don't forget [URL="http://http://www4.cnnsi.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0704/gallery.nfl.2008.draft.candids/content.8.html"]Vernon Gholston[/URL]. How sweet would that be to have two Dlinemen with nearly identical names: Golston & Gholston.

"Did Golston get that sack?"

"No. I'm pretty sure Gholston got it."

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Keep the picks for god sake!!!!!!!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;305700]A lot can happen between now and April 2008, so we may not have all our draft picks by then. And I'm more excited for the season than for next year's draft.

As for some names:

That DE dude out of USC-Jackson?
Dexter Manley's son from Oregon
Chris Long (Howie's son) DE out of UVA
Brian Brohm QB Louisville[/quote]


Oh dont get me wrong, I am sooo excited about this year as well, and yes we could still dish a pick or two away for a player, but still its like, wow we might actually have a good # of picks next year.

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[quote=SkinEmAll;305711]Oh dont get me wrong, I am sooo excited about this year as well, and yes we could still dish a pick or two away for a player, but still its like, wow we might actually have a good # of picks next year.[/quote]

I think it's a safe bet we'll trade one or two away, I just hope we keep the 1st,2nd,3rd. You expect picks in the first three rounds to be eventual starters.

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we didn't have enough draft threads before? now we are talking about next years already

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With hearing Keyshawn being released there is a decent chance we might have some defensive linemen come our way post June 1 and we don't have to give up any picks. When we do that(give up picks) we box ourselves in building with free agency being the sole way to build the team. The fact is except for Landry, the low picks won't be on the active squad come September and probably will never make it. Palmer might after a year or two in NFL Europe. Blades and co. might make special teams at best. Realisitically, only 1-3 rounders are worth a damn, unless you luck out with a diamond in the rough, which is rare.

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Not to be a buzzkill but next year will be without Gibbs.

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This is hardly worth repeating, but did anyone see on Cold Pizza where they did a mock draft for 2008. They said the Redskins would have the first overall pick (which I guess they take from the fact that they had so few draft picks and all they know about football is what happened in the past three days) but I missed who they said they would take (not that it really matters). It is crazy how much the projected top 25 changes in the course of 12 months.

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they said we would be the worst team in football this year???

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[quote=GMScud;305702]Well, free agency isn't over yet. No guarantee all those draft picks will still be there before training camp starts. Frankly I wouldn't mind dumping a 3rd or 4th rounder for Kris Jenkins. Here's a link from SI on their top 25 prospects going into next year:

[URL="http://www4.cnnsi.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0704/gallery.nfl.2008.draft.candids/content.1.html"]SI.com - Photo Gallery - Top 25 NFL Draft Candidates for 2008[/URL][/quote]

Have they ever seen Ainge throw a football? I bet that guy goes undrafted. Looks like it should hopefully be a deep draft at DL, though, which would be nice.

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[quote=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;305734]they said we would be the worst team in football this year???[/quote]

That is correct. Again, I can only attribute that to the fact that the Skins got such bad pub for having so few draft picks and they extrapolated that out to mean they would lose the most games. Can't really explain it.

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I doubt that will happen...the worst team in football??? I guess one should never say "never" but I highly doubt it...one more reason that I don't watch that show

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If Adam Shefter said it I might believe it. Aside from that, all of the analysts out there are the dumbest, bandwagon ridin, overpaid, posers there are. The only way to shut them up is to win football games and prove them wrong, just like the 05 season. Besides that, people who don't know football, shouldn't talk football.

I know it's comming so here is my rebuttle. I have forgotten more X's and O's than you will ever know!

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;305732]This is hardly worth repeating, but did anyone see on Cold Pizza where they did a mock draft for 2008. They said the Redskins would have the first overall pick (which I guess they take from the fact that they had so few draft picks and all they know about football is what happened in the past three days) but I missed who they said they would take (not that it really matters). It is crazy how much the projected top 25 changes in the course of 12 months.[/quote]

I would literally bet everything I own that the Redskins will not be the worst team in football next year.

ESPN, while entertaining, really loves to pay complete idiots a lot of money. They are baseless hype squared and have hated Snyder for years.

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we are missing our 4th rounder next year because of the Duckett trade i think

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[QUOTE=GMScud;305702]Well, free agency isn't over yet. No guarantee all those draft picks will still be there before training camp starts. Frankly I wouldn't mind dumping a 3rd or 4th rounder for Kris Jenkins. Here's a link from SI on their top 25 prospects going into next year:

[URL="http://www4.cnnsi.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0704/gallery.nfl.2008.draft.candids/content.1.html"]SI.com - Photo Gallery - Top 25 NFL Draft Candidates for 2008[/URL][/QUOTE]

Sorry, I didnt make it past the Florida State girls. Anyone want to fill me in the rest of the prospects?

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Isn't it a little early to start talking about next year's draft?

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I hate to break the party up guys but we don't have a 4th next year because of Brandon Lloyd.

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[QUOTE=mooby;305790]I hate to break the party up guys but we don't have a 4th next year because of Brandon Lloyd.[/QUOTE]

I think that was this year, 3rd in 2006 and a 4th in 2007

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[quote=SmootSmack;305797]I think that was this year, 3rd in 2006 and a 4th in 2007[/quote]

Yes, you are correct and they drafted a DE with that pick.

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;305729]Not to be a buzzkill but next year will be without Gibbs.[/QUOTE]

Why do you feel this way? Are you anticipating another bad year which will force Gibbs to step down? If we can get a 9-7 record or better and a playoff berth, do you think that will keep him around?

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[quote=SmootSmack;305700]A lot can happen between now and April 2008, so we may not have all our draft picks by then. And I'm more excited for the season than for next year's draft.

As for some names:

That DE dude out of USC-Jackson?
Dexter Manley's son from Oregon
[B] Chris Long (Howie's son) DE out of UVA[/B]
Brian Brohm QB Louisville[/quote]

Kid is a beast, pretty much our entire D. My roomie last semester actually was on the football team, and Chris came by to our place. Cool guy. I didnt know it was him right away, and he left bc his dad was there. I see a nice escalade pull away, then I put it all together. Howie Long was in our Parking Lot! lol.

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is manley's boy any good?

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Correct ... we owe the Broncos our 4th next year to complete the T.J. Duckett fiasco ... but other than that ... ?

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;305739]That is correct. Again, I can only attribute that to the fact that the Skins got such bad pub for having so few draft picks and they extrapolated that out to mean they would lose the most games. Can't really explain it.[/quote]

Other teams had just as few picks as us and avoided the same criticism. It's obvious the media hates us without a good reason.

TEAM - 2007 PICKS

Cards - 5
Broncos - 4 (after trades, fewer picks than the Skins!)
Jets - 4 (same as Denver)
Chargers - 6
Redskins - 5

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[quote=44_Riggins_44;305895]is manley's boy any good?[/quote]

Of course he is, he's Menley's boy!

Seriously, I've heard good things about him.

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[quote=Buster;306018]Other teams had just as few picks as us and avoided the same criticism. It's obvious the media hates us without a good reason.

TEAM - 2007 PICKS

Cards - 5
Broncos - 4 (after trades, fewer picks than the Skins!)
Jets - 4 (same as Denver)
Chargers - 6
Redskins - 5[/quote]

But they might have had more day 1 picks. We had a 1st the na 5th

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[quote=hooskins;306020]But they might have had more day 1 picks. We had a 1st the na 5th[/quote]

So what. Some of our second day picks (Sartz, Blades) are better than a lot of teams' first day picks.

<cough> Ted Ginn, Jr. <cough>

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[quote=Buster;306033]So what. Some of our second day picks (Sartz, Blades) are better than a lot of teams' first day picks.

<cough> Ted Ginn, Jr. <cough>[/quote]

Right but Miami is an exception. There is a pretty big talent drop off after the first day.

I do agree that ESPN was ragging on us a bit, Berman and TK were pushing it. But again I kinda dont buy into the whole media hates us deal. There are some, like Pastabelly, but beside that the Skins really have earned it. Over the last decade and a half we have been total shit. Constant QB changes, and recently an owner who is just learning a thing or two. Many Skins fans are quick to forget that a majority of media(ESPN, SI, etc) had us winning the NFC East. If we are a playoff contender for more than 1 year in a row then I promise you a majority of this skins "hate" everyone sees will go away instantly.

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[quote=SmootSmack;305797]I think that was this year, 3rd in 2006 and a 4th in 2007[/quote]
Thats right, so I'm not really excited about our 07 draft because of this pick we traded away. Now 08 is a different story and we still have all our picks and that is very exciting to me. JC will then have several years behind center and we should be able to stock pile some weapons for him to use in 08. Mybe I'll start a "I'm so excited about the 08 draft" because we could do a mock draft and stuff to see how things will work out.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;305717]With hearing Keyshawn being released there is a decent chance we might have some defensive linemen come our way post June 1 and we don't have to give up any picks. When we do that(give up picks) we box ourselves in building with free agency being the sole way to build the team. The fact is except for Landry, the low picks won't be on the active squad come September and probably will never make it. Palmer might after a year or two in NFL Europe. Blades and co. might make special teams at best. Realisitically, only 1-3 rounders are worth a damn, unless you luck out with a diamond in the rough, which is rare.[/quote]

true that 1-3 is a higher %, but not as high as you make it sound. On espn last night they had a breakdown of players on current rosters by draft round. 27% of the players are undrafted, I think over 15% were first rounders, and as I recall from there every round was fairly close, about 8-10% each. There are plenty of "busts" in rounds 2 & 3, but they don't get the attention that top 10 picks get.

Of course, around here we'll always remember every high draft pick that didn't make the pro bowl!

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I posted this in another thread...but CNNSI had a mock draft and us drafting 23rd...then some clown went off about how we'd be picking first, said we had a terrible O line

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[QUOTE=firstdown;306041]Thats right, so I'm not really excited about our 07 draft because of this pick we traded away. Now 08 is a different story and we still have all our picks and that is very exciting to me. JC will then have several years behind center and we should be able to stock pile some weapons for him to use in 08. Mybe I'll start a "I'm so excited about the 08 draft" because we could do a mock draft and stuff to see how things will work out.[/QUOTE]


SWFlaSkinsFan is correct, we still owe Denver next year's #4 pick as a result of the Duckett give-a-way. So our full draft complement is complete minus one.

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[QUOTE=Buster;306018]Other teams had just as few picks as us and avoided the same criticism. It's obvious the media hates us without a good reason.

TEAM - 2007 PICKS

Cards - 5
Broncos - 4 (after trades, fewer picks than the Skins!)
Jets - 4 (same as Denver)
Chargers - 6
Redskins - 5[/QUOTE]

The difference is that all those other teams were able to keep their high round picks (1-4). The Jets traded some of theirs away to move up in order to get Ravis.

If you're going to trade picks away, it's always better to get rid of the later rounds rather than selections in the first three or four.

Certainly you can't be arguing that the Skins should be able to escape criticism for screwing themselves in the draft. When we give up what most consider the best way to build your team for what frequently turn out to be free agent busts, do you honestly expect us not to get called on it?

NY, the Broncos, and the Chargers have all had way more success than the Redskins recently. As long as we keep losing, you might as well brace yourself.

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Here are a couple more to consider if the Skins decide to address the DL/DE positions (from CBS Sportsline):

[B]Calais Campbell, DE, Miami:[/B] This junior can be a special pass rusher. He has great size and speed. At 6-8, 265 pounds, he's huge.

[B]Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU:[/B] He's a power player who will see a lot of double-teams this year. Ben Grubbs, this year's top guard, said Dorsey was his toughest opponent.

[B]Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida:[/B] He had two sacks of Troy Smith in the national championship game, which served notice that Harvey will be a force in 2007. He might see more doubles with all his line mates leaving for the NFL.

[B]Frank Okam, DT, Texas:[/B] At 6-5, 320 pounds, he is a power player in the middle of the Longhorns line. He does need to be more consistent.

[B]Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU:[/B] He has a lot of raw ability and needs to show more of it in 2007. At 6-5, 290 pounds, he has great size.

[B]Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State:[/B] He surprised many last season by becoming the Buckeyes' top pass rusher. A former linebacker, he should get heavier in 2007.