Jason Campbell's development
 

It's hard to not get excited about the season after reading this:

[url=http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20070511-123948-5675r.htm]A difference of 'night and day' - Sports - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/url]

Saunders: "Every time I look over my shoulder, Jason's here," said Saunders, who worked with Campbell three hours a day, three days a week leading up to the players' first days back on the field this week. "He's making progress. He's a wonderful kid to work with. He's extremely bright and has worked extremely hard on his techniques and fundamentals [with] a lot of film work, a lot of board work and a lot of understanding of what we are doing from a schematic standpoint."

Campbell: "In the offseason, you try to put in a lot of work to help put yourself in position to be successful," Campbell said. "You're able to go through more of your progressions than you probably did a year ago because of the time and effort that you put in studying the plays. Coach Saunders and [quarterbacks coach Bill Lazor] have done a great job of teaching me all the plays."

"It's getting back there and trying to set up a lot quicker and getting the ball out of my hand a lot quicker," Campbell said. "[And] knowing where you're going with the ball more, shortening my motion. The coaches are trying to make things easier for me so I can have the opportunity to go through my progressions without being in a rush."


Gibbs: "I don't know if anyone has worked harder than Jason," Gibbs said. "He's paid a price this offseason. There are a lot of places he could have been running around, but he's been here working on football. It's made a difference. He's quicker. He's much more confident."

Rabach: "From last year's OTAs to this year, it's night and day with Jason," center Casey Rabach said.

Moss: "We're light years ahead of where we were last year with Jason," Moss said. "You have to understand last year when he came in and started throwing to [the regulars] late in the season we had had no reps with him. We didn't have the timing we wanted and we were trying to force him to do things that any quarterback would struggle doing. What Jason has done is make a lot of progress to where we want to go."

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I can hardly wait for the season. I hope Campbell and Saunders get this bad boy rolling! Go for the throat, never stop trying to score. Lean on Portis and Betts to allow him to make the easy throws.

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[quote=Daseal;309150]I can hardly wait for the season. I hope Campbell and Saunders get this bad boy rolling! Go for the throat, never stop trying to score. Lean on Portis and Betts to allow him to make the easy throws.[/quote]


Yeah, we have to develop that killer instinct. A few times last year we had teams on the ropes and let 'em go.

I hope Gibbs will learn how to run up the score a little this season.

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I don't want to run it up a little bit =p I want to just keep going until the game clock reads 00. Not until we're up by 14.

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I was fortunate to be at the Skins/Tampa Bay game last season. Even though it was not a great game for JC, you could NOT help but notice (as did the TB fans as well) his unshakeable demeanor, and apparent calm in the pocket.
All I could think about is "this guy looks like the real deal".

CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!

BEWARE, as I am a classic enabler

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I'm not horribly concerned about the offense, I think we've got enough playmakers to have a top 10 offense. The defense is the key for this season. Another showing like last year will ruin the season quick.

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This is the type of thing that gets me amped up for the season. I want to see Jason Campbell succeed, scratch that, I wanna see him become great. I hope he gets on the same page with his receivers and they can have a balanced attack on offense this season.

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This is the crucial piece--if JC develops, I feel like we can fix the rest. He's got the character, no doubt. I am psyched to see him on the field this year.

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I like to hear this. I like what I saw from JC last year. He basically went from 3rd team to 1st team and he played well considering the circumstances. I think JC realizes that it's his time now and the team is finally his. I think we are going to see a real NFL offense with more downfield passing. I want to see ARE and Lloyd step it up as well. But with everybody healthy, and the 2nd year in this offense we should score a lot more points this year.

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I want to to win this year but I am really more concerned that Campbell plays well. He doesn't need to throw for 4000 and 40 TDs but a solid year with smart decisions and some clutch plays here and there should be the real goal of this team. That is the best long term thing we could get out of this year. At the end of it we KNOW JC is our QB now and going foward and he has shown us that he can be the best QB in the division. JC is what excites me and terrifies me about '07.

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Hell yeah, I was saying in another thread how excited this article makes me. Young QBs with talent are so much fun to think about, nothing would impact our team more than Campbell's development.

The offense with a year's experience with Saunders, plus JC getting better acquainted and more experienced, plus a healthy Portis and Betts, it's very exciting. You just worry about left guard. But nothing would help us like a great season from JC. He's got it all, and this article makes me excited.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;309181]He basically went from 3rd team to 1st team and he played well considering the circumstances.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree. I think if you look at his play with blinders on it was just average but the context of that average play is far more important. I cannot think of one instance that he looked overmatched, scared, overwhelmed, or simply bad. He made mistakes but mostly he just looked like he had poor chemistry with the skill guys and that is all about practice and repetion.

I think back to the Days of Ramsey and how totally flustered he tended to look. Even when he was playing well you just knew he was one or two plays away from getting walloped and then he'd get up and jam the ball down and look mad. Next thing you know he looks like a highschool QB who can't do anything right. Throwing the ball into 3 coverage and losing the game. He just had so little composure. Never saw that in JC.

Hell even Brunell looked that way a lot.

JC seemed to have the confidence and composure needed. I think those two things are as important as arm strength and accuarcy in being a good QB.

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Like someone said, he basically went from #3 to #1 overnight with no work with the first teamers until 1/2 way through the season.

Taking that into consideration I don't know how you couldn't come away impressed with the way he handled himself last year.

If you look at the tape from the last game against the Giants, he really looked like he was starting to take off. He was standing tall in the pocket and just picking apart the D. He was really getting in to a zone.

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Very very exciting article. The more I read about Campbell and watch games from late last season I think we will have a dynamic offense this year. With Portis, Moss, Cooley and Campbell we have the best skill position players in the division.

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[quote=FRPLG;309188]I totally agree. I think if you look at his play with blinders on it was just average but the context of that average play is far more important. I cannot think of one instance that he looked overmatched, scared, overwhelmed, or simply bad. He made mistakes but mostly he just looked like he had poor chemistry with the skill guys and that is all about practice and repetion.

I think back to the Days of Ramsey and how totally flustered he tended to look. Even when he was playing well you just knew he was one or two plays away from getting walloped and then he'd get up and jam the ball down and look mad. Next thing you know he looks like a highschool QB who can't do anything right. Throwing the ball into 3 coverage and losing the game. He just had so little composure. Never saw that in JC.

Hell even Brunell looked that way a lot.

JC seemed to have the confidence and composure needed. I think those two things are as important as arm strength and accuarcy in being a good QB.[/quote]

I think we now have a potential playmaker at QB vs. a caretaker in Brunell.

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Only time will tell! I too am very stoked to see him in action again and from the comments in this article so is the rest of the team and coaching staff.

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Jason brings a versatility to the quarterback position that I dont think we've seen in Washington in...well forever. As you saw in the last game against the Giants, the kid makes plays from all over the feild. It looks like he's sacked, he has a first down, he can scramble around a little bit and makes some real good throws.

The composure you guys talk about is huge too. I still think Ramsey had the physical tools to be an exellent QB in the league (and I think thats why he is still in the leauge at this point), but mentally he was just wayyy to gone to really be successful on a consistant basis. Jason seems like he could have a bad play, series, game and still be fine the next time he takes a snap. He'll still make some mistakes, but theres ALOT to like about him right now.

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Actions speak... I'm not getting excited until pre-season.

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I said when Jason was drafted that he would prove to be the best QB in his draft class. He hasn't exactly proved me to be right yet, but I'm inspired by the reviews he's getting so far. It' going to be exciting watching his continued development, as he along with the success of the defense will prove to be the keys to our season.

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I've been a fan of JC since his days at Auburn even when he was whipping my Hokies in the sugar bowl. This just makes me that much more excited for the season.

I agree w/Matty, the O is not the question on this team, especially w/JC being hard at work. He's really showing the traits of a great qb, he's leading by example in the offseason.

I think Jason Campbell will have a far better career than Jemarcus Russell & B. Quinn, and I might even add vince Young to that list too. Get ready to hear Hail to the Redskins quite often.
(Disclaimer: I"m still worried about the D!)

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[quote=freddyg12;309267]I've been a fan of JC since his days at Auburn even when he was whipping my Hokies in the sugar bowl. This just makes me that much more excited for the season.

I agree w/Matty, the O is not the question on this team, especially w/JC being hard at work. He's really showing the traits of a great qb, he's leading by example in the offseason.

I think Jason Campbell will have a far better career than Jemarcus Russell & B. Quinn, and I might even add vince Young to that list too. Get ready to hear Hail to the Redskins quite often.
(Disclaimer: I"m still worried about the D!)[/quote]

I tend to agree here. I think JC will be better than those you listed.

I could totally see JC and Matt Leinert having really good '07 campaigns.

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[quote=FRPLG;309183]I want to to win this year but I am really more concerned that Campbell plays well. He doesn't need to throw for 4000 and 40 TDs but a solid year with smart decisions and some clutch plays here and there should be the real goal of this team. That is the best long term thing we could get out of this year. At the end of it we KNOW JC is our QB now and going foward and he has shown us that he can be the best QB in the division. JC is what excites me and terrifies me about '07.[/quote]


I'm glad you're not expecting 4000 and 40. NEVER happen!

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[quote=hesscl34;309255]Actions speak... I'm not getting excited until pre-season.[/quote]

As a Skins fan I admire your caution, that's good for your mental health, but at least you have to be happy that the coaches are publicly applauding his work ethic & progress. If he wasn't in there working they probably wouldn't say anything publicly, but then a source would tell JLC that the team is unhappy w/him.

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Very GOOD news on how hard Jason is working, I think it will pay huge dividends for us this year!

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While our defense needs FAR more improvement than our offense, I think our offense is [I]capable[/I] of compensating for shortcomings on the defensive side of the ball. If Jason Campbell develops into a good QB, this offense does have the potential to explode. A sportswriter whose name is escaping me right now said that a lot of teams view Washington as a sleeping giant.....it's not doing much now, but it has the potential to be a force. If Jason Campbell improves as much as these articles say, he could transform our offense into the kind of weapon that people think it can be.

Has anyone else noticed that Jason Campbell's initials are "JC," as in "[B]J[/B]esus [B]C[/B]hrist." Coincidence? I think not. Deliver us from Dallas, Lord JC.

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[quote=Daseal;309150]I can hardly wait for the season. I hope Campbell and Saunders get this bad boy rolling! Go for the throat, never stop trying to score. Lean on Portis and Betts to allow him to make the easy throws.[/quote]

We better never stop trying to score, b/c I am still very concerned about the defense. But this article gets my psyched about JC. I think he's gonna be awesome.

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Qoute from the article:

"Campbell has accepted receiver Santana Moss' invitation to work together in Miami after next month's minicamp. Receiver Antwaan Randle El will join them, too."

This was a good sign from the article as well. I hope that Jason and the WR's get together like the article says to really build some continuity.

My question is why won't Brandon Llyod also work with Jason - isn't he the number 2 wr on the offense? It just seems to me that this year Brandon Llyod is on the hot seat and if he does not produce I would have to think he will be gone. Wouldn't it be in Brandon's best interest to get on a plane and join Santana and ARE to get on the same page with JC?

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My bet is ARE is our #2 this year unless Lloyd can prove himself and get out of the doghouse.

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[quote=Mattyk72;309333]My bet is ARE is our #2 this year unless Lloyd can prove himself and get out of the doghouse.[/quote]


I guess so. I keep harping on Brandon Llyod because he did have the worst stats in the NFL for a #2 but he sure made a lot of money and cost a lot of picks. I know a lot of people on the board say that it was the qb who could not get him the ball and that he was getting open and just running the routes that coaches asked him to run. Well this year there are no more excuses for Llyod. Jason Campbell's arm strength from what I saw and lots of other Skins fans saw is pretty darn good. Add to that the offensive line is 4/5 intact and one of the better lines in the NFL with 2 good rushers, a star WR in Moss and a good TE in Cooley - I just don't see if he has another bad year how anyone can still defend him and still think he should be part of the team.

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[quote=hesscl34;309255]Actions speak... I'm not getting excited until pre-season.[/quote]

TOO late.......I think I had premature exite-ulation

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[quote=Bill B;309337]I guess so. I keep harping on Brandon Llyod because he did have the worst stats in the NFL for a #2 but he sure made a lot of money and cost a lot of picks. I know a lot of people on the board say that it was the qb who could not get him the ball and that he was getting open and just running the routes that coaches asked him to run. Well this year there are no more excuses for Llyod. Jason Campbell's arm strength from what I saw and lots of other Skins fans saw is pretty darn good. Add to that the offensive line is 4/5 intact and one of the better lines in the NFL with 2 good rushers, a star WR in Moss and a good TE in Cooley - I just don't see if he has another bad year how anyone can still defend him and still think he should be part of the team.[/quote]

I won't be surprised if he's gone next year. He's got a lot to prove.

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[quote=Bill B;309332]Qoute from the article:

"Campbell has accepted receiver Santana Moss' invitation to work together in Miami after next month's minicamp. Receiver Antwaan Randle El will join them, too."

This was a good sign from the article as well. I hope that Jason and the WR's get together like the article says to really build some continuity.

My question is why won't Brandon Llyod also work with Jason - isn't he the number 2 wr on the offense? It just seems to me that this year Brandon Llyod is on the hot seat and if he does not produce I would have to think he will be gone. Wouldn't it be in Brandon's best interest to get on a plane and join Santana and ARE to get on the same page with JC?[/quote]

JC will be fine, he has all the physical tools, is smart and a dedicated hard-worker.

My concern is with this excerpt from the Wash Post article on 5/9/2007 "Before the voluntary workouts began, Campbell had wanted to work out with wide receivers Antwaan Randle El, Santana Moss and Brandon Lloyd, but the dates never materialized. Moss said he hoped to reschedule with Campbell during the six weeks between the mandatory June minicamp and the start of training camp July 27."

Dates never materialized....WTF ! !

Moss, Lloyd & ARE are getting paid a load of jack and they can't schedule a couple weeks together in the off-season to run some routes and throw with their QB. Throwing between Mini-camp and Training Camp is great, but there is NO excuse why Moss, Lloyd, ARE and Cooley weren't all working with Campbell for at least a couple weeks between Feb & now. High School kids aren't getting paid jack and at the High Schools in Virginia Beach most of them are at off-season workouts (unless they are playing another sport) Mon-Thurs from Dec - July. I guess the difference is they have pride in their school and their teammates and doing what it takes to help their school win. To them it is still a game, not a job.

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I wanted to point out a couple things:

Has anyone seen the parallel between the running backs on the 'Skins and what JC had at Auburn? I mean, one of the knocks on Campbell coming out of college is that he might have benefited from the RB duo he played with there. Well, now he's got that at the pro level and I think it's a good thing. He knows how to operate and flourish in a two back system.

Also, I think JC is the prototype caretaker QB, but in a good way. I think he could excel at doing a lot of things well, taking care of the ball, making some plays with his feet, and distributing the ball and keeping a lot of players interested/happy. Tom Brady is the uber caretaker IMO. I think JC has the potential to really be a distributer/enabler who can put his teammates in position to win games for us. He's not a world beater type, but I think that can play into our hands in a big way if he really does make strides and develop.

On a side note, does anyone actually think someone would come out after a couple of offseason workouts and OTA's and say Campbell looks bad, that he has regressed, and that he is really slacking off? I mean, we really do have to wait and see how this plays out on the field. He was coming into the park 12 hours a week and he is the starting quarterback of the wealthiest franchise in a multi billion dollar industry. I am sorry, but I don't say "Wow, he really is working his tail off" when you tell me he's working a 12 hour week. That's barely part time where I come from (Washington, DC). However, I think it is best that he worked with Saunders and got really caught up before throwing on his own with Santana and whoever else. Now, he is really in a position to get everyone on the same page if they do go ahead with that plan to work out together after mini camp.

With all that said, I think this could be the year that our offense finally turns the corner. While everyone is so concerned about the D, you have to remember that the defense actually has a pedigree of recent success. The offense has been the enigma that we haven't been able to solve for a long time, and I think it's obvious that JC is the reason this thing will turn around if it does. He doesn't have to be superman, he just needs stay poised, manage the offense, and not be predictable enough to gameplan easily. I think he can do that.

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[quote=Mattyk72;309354]I won't be surprised if he's gone next year. He's got a lot to prove.[/quote]


I do hope I'm wrong, but I agree if he doesn't have a heck of a season he's outta DC. I also think he was very close this year to being chopped, I think it came down to Lloyd or Arch.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;309419]I do hope I'm wrong, but I agree if he doesn't have a heck of a season he's outta DC. I also think he was very close this year to being chopped, I think it came down to Lloyd or Arch.[/quote]

I agree it was probably a choice of AA or Lloyd. I guess the coaches thought Lloyd was the lesser of the two evils.

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Lloyd is DEF the lesser of 2 evils. Screw AA and B-Lloyd but Llyod is young and can improve. AA is old and screwed. Not a hard decsion IMO. Llyod better step up or , I agree, He's out.

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It might be time to change the name of this thread to "Re: Brandon Lloyd's Development".

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[quote=TenandSix:Unacceptable;309427]It might be time to change the name of this thread to "Re: Brandon Lloyd's Development".[/quote]



heheeh agreed:coach: :banghead:

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[quote=TenandSix:Unacceptable;309411]
On a side note, does anyone actually think someone would come out after a couple of offseason workouts and OTA's and say Campbell looks bad, that he has regressed, and that he is really slacking off? I mean, we really do have to wait and see how this plays out on the field. [/quote]

Yeah, I remember Patten comparing Ramsey to Tom Brady at one point during OTAs. I dont remember the coaches doing it though.

Im hoping for big things to happen this year.

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wow man wow