Will Landry hold out?
 

Whatcha guys think? Are we going to have another hold out on our hands or will he be in camp in time.

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Why in the world do you think he would hold out? Contract?

This is a stand up kid, chompin at the bit to get to work. He'll be there!

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I sure hope not! He is going to be a force with ST back there. Also, we really need him to be ready to start day in week one. Holding out would only prolong him getting into the line-up.

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shizzle, I hope not.. We need him to work with ST so they both can get in same rhythm..

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Its always possible, the last hold out we had was Patrick Ramsey i believe, so our front office is pretty good at getting the rookies out there. As far as Landry being a stand up kid, thats more than likely true, but most hold outs have nothing to do with the player, but more to do with the agent, see Heath Shuler.

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I don't even recall a holdout in the past few years.

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Why would he hold out? He is going to get a nice fat contract. I mean, come on, he is now an instant millionaire. The Skins will give him what a #6 deserves and maybethen some with the Danny!!!!!

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[QUOTE=Daseal;313048]Whatcha guys think? Are we going to have another hold out on our hands or will he be in camp in time.[/QUOTE]



Daseal, is there any one thing in particular that makes you think Landry might be a holdout, or is it just something you're throwing out there?

Personally, I hope he's not a hold-out, we need all our young players in camp on time, and espically in Landry's case because he's a projected starter.

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i seriously doubt it he seems so ready to be out there so i know he will be there

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;313070]Why would he hold out? He is going to get a nice fat contract. I mean, come on, he is now an instant millionaire. The Skins will give him what a #6 deserves QUOTE] well stated gus!!! I believe he'll be in camp and ready.

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I seriously doubt it, this kid looks like he wakes up in the morning looking to hit someone, I don't think he could contain himself not being on the field for the start of training camp.

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He will only be hurting himself if he does.

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From what I understand we have about $3.5M in our rookie pool, the majority of which will go to Landry. That means he can have a nice base salary, and I'm sure we'll give him in the neighborhood of $20M guaranteed, with a good signing bonus included in that. He'll be in camp. He's not a primadonna like a lot of these top draft picks.

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the rookies are alloted a certain amount, yes? he will get paid. thats one thing the skins do right.

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They only way I could see a potential "hold out" would be if for some reason the picks in front of Landry hadn't signed yet and his agent was waiting to determine the appropriate "slot" for compensation. That's not really a hold out in my mind, but rather a hold up by the agent to get more market info.

9 times out of 10 the agents are just looking at what the guy in front of or behind their client in the draft was paid by their team and adjusting down or up accordingly. There are obviously some exceptions (when a potential top ten slides way down i.e., Quinn this year).

Keep an eye on those other picks and you'll have a good barometer of when Landry will get signed.

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[QUOTE=Mc2guy;313226]They only way I could see a potential "hold out" would be if for some reason the picks in front of Landry hadn't signed yet and his agent was waiting to determine the appropriate "slot" for compensation. That's not really a hold out in my mind, but rather a hold up by the agent to get more market info.

9 times out of 10 the agents are just looking at what the guy in front of or behind their client in the draft was paid by their team and adjusting down or up accordingly. There are obviously some exceptions (when a potential top ten slides way down i.e., Quinn this year).

Keep an eye on those other picks and you'll have a good barometer of when Landry will get signed.[/QUOTE]

Exactly what I was going to say. Thats kind of the bitch of all of it, is everyone waits so late to sign, so somtimes things like that happen. Even if he did hold out, I wouldnt take it as "he dosent want to be here" , but he needs to protect himself.

That being said, the Skins' ussually do a very good job with this kind of thing and I'd be suprised if its an issue.

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[quote=Mc2guy;313226]They only way I could see a potential "hold out" would be if for some reason the picks in front of Landry hadn't signed yet and his agent was waiting to determine the appropriate "slot" for compensation. That's not really a hold out in my mind, but rather a hold up by the agent to get more market info.

9 times out of 10 the agents are just looking at what the guy in front of or behind their client in the draft was paid by their team and adjusting down or up accordingly. There are obviously some exceptions (when a potential top ten slides way down i.e., Quinn this year).

Keep an eye on those other picks and you'll have a good barometer of when Landry will get signed.[/quote]

good post. The nfl's rookie allotment cap structure has helped a lot w/holdouts.

I'm surprised at how many here seem to think a holdout is such a low probability. The signings before him will dictate how much his agent asks for & on top of that his agent may use Desmond Howard's agents' logic; my client is an impact player & should get more than the guy drafted in front of him. Howard's agent said that because he was a wr/returner & Sean Gilbert was a DE that Howard should get paid more even though Gilbert was drafted before him. Landry's agent may play up the "best d-player in the draft" angle.

Plus, the skins may feel that they need to pay him as little as possible so that they won't have to pay ST as much to redo his deal. ST & Rosenhaus will be paying a lot of attention to Landry's deal. Who is LL's agent?

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freddyg12 has asked the key question here. Who is Landry's agent?

Some agents ALWAYS have their players sign late - either because they want to see what all the other picks get or because they are finageling for some perk in the contract. Other agents take pride in getting deals done early and "setting the market" for the rest of the draft picks.

So who is Landry's agent? Find out the agent's track record and you'll have a pretty good idea of whether or not he'll be in camp early or late.

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I think his agent is named Joel Segal. He also represents Reggie Bush.

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[quote=angryssg;313167]He will only be hurting himself if he does.[/quote]

No, he'd also be hurting the whole team, especially the defense.

If he's not ready and hasn't taken enough defensive snaps in practice and the preseason, he'll find himself out of position and out of synch.

We'd end up with Adam Archuleta again.

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[quote=Buster;313344]No, he'd also be hurting the whole team, especially the defense.

If he's not ready and hasn't taken enough defensive snaps in practice and the preseason, he'll find himself out of position and out of synch.

We'd end up with Adam Archuleta again.[/quote]

i would not go that far

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Earthquake gets the award for the longest signature EVER!:)

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[quote=GMScud;313380]Earthquake gets the award for the longest signature EVER!:)[/quote]


thanks man can i use that as my next one

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[QUOTE=Buster;313344]No, he'd also be hurting the whole team, especially the defense.

If he's not ready and hasn't taken enough defensive snaps in practice and the preseason, he'll find himself out of position and out of synch.

We'd end up with Adam Archuleta again.[/QUOTE]

I disagree, I do not think that our D will rest on Landry's shoulders. I think that if he does hold out he will be only hurting himself. Idealy it would be nice for Landry to be at camp on time. But if he isnt Sean Taylor is versitile enough to fill in at Strong Saftey and have Pearson P. fill in untill Landry can get cought up. I am not saying that PP is better than Laundry but in this situation it would work. Also, I think that it would be a slap in the face to ST if Landry does get to the start opening game. Remember GW doesn't like to start rookies untill he feels they are ready. And if you remember, ST would not have started so soon if it wasnt for an injury...

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We have absolutely no way of knowing whether Landry will be a holdout or not, speculating one way or another seems completely pointless to me. On one hand there's no reason to think he would hold out, and on the other hand shitake mushrooms happen sometimes.

Who the hell knows at this point, I don't see that there's much to discuss on the matter.

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[quote=GMScud;313380]Earthquake gets the award for the longest signature EVER!:)[/quote]

Funny how it's longer than any post I've ever seen him write ;)

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[quote=Mattyk72;313454]Funny how it's longer than any post I've ever seen him write ;)[/quote]

This is true. I believe Dr. Quack is well on his way to breaking all Warpath records, for the most LITTLE POSTS AWARD, for the most LITTLE posts in a one year time frame. I think the prize is like a warparth #2 pencil, or some other big prize like that.

I'm bettin he'll crack well over the 10K post mark in 12 months....? Keep on rockin one line wonder! :Smoker:

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If Joel Segal is his agent - I'm assuming that Art Monk Drilz is knowledgeable here - then I'd offer a word of caution to Skins' fans.

Joel Segal represents Michael Vick; and Michael Vick is a HUGE client for any agent to handle. At the moment, my guess is that Joel Segal is really busy trying to figure out what the hell is going on in that little corner of the NFL world. It might just be that the last thing on his mind is worrying about a timely signing for a rookie draft pick...

Or maybe - if the Redskins are lucky - it is just the opposite. Maybe all Joel Segal wants to do is get those rookies signed and ready to report to camp so he can try to figure out how to salvage the reputation of his REALLY BIG client...

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;313648]If Joel Segal is his agent - I'm assuming that Art Monk Drilz is knowledgeable here - then I'd offer a word of caution to Skins' fans.

Joel Segal represents Michael Vick; and Michael Vick is a HUGE client for any agent to handle. At the moment, my guess is that Joel Segal is really busy trying to figure out what the hell is going on in that little corner of the NFL world. It might just be that the last thing on his mind is worrying about a timely signing for a rookie draft pick...

Or maybe - if the Redskins are lucky - it is just the opposite. Maybe all Joel Segal wants to do is get those rookies signed and ready to report to camp so he can try to figure out how to salvage the reputation of his REALLY BIG client...[/quote]

So he might hold out or he might not.

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Why is it that everyone thinks Landry will hold out? What's the basis for this?

If I were a betting man, I'm betting he's going to be in camp. The fact that this kid stayed in school his entire four years tells me that money isn't the only thing on his mind.

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Although the skin's usually get thier rookies signed...they usually take forever in doing it...that always makes me a little nervous...just once I'd like to see the skin's being one of the first teams to get thier guys locked up early on.