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Sources said the agents are looking for more animal remains buried on the property.

[url=http://wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=6753469]WAVY TV 10 - News, Weather, Traffic, Sports for Hampton Roads, Virginia - North Eastern North Carolina - BREAKING - Federal agents searching Vick property[/url]

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They are really taking their time with this.

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Prediction: Vick plays this season, the Falcons win 5 games, and this ordeal combined with poor play forces the Falcons to cut him and move on with a rookie QB.

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Wow, they really want to get him.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;325174]Prediction: Vick plays this season, the Falcons win 5 games, and this ordeal combined with poor play forces the Falcons to cut him and move on with a rookie QB.[/QUOTE]

Brian Brohm perhaps?

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[quote=SmootSmack;325178]Brian Brohm perhaps?[/quote]

With Patrick Ramsey as the backup.

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;325182]With Patrick Ramsey as the backup.[/QUOTE]

If they were fair they'd just let Ramsey finally have the job. Seeing as how good he is and all I am surpised it hasn't happened in Denver yet.

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I'd like to see The Wire do a season with a Michael Vick storyline.

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I bet Portis will be laughing like a little 3rd grader when they find a bunch of dead dogs.:joke:

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[quote=SmootSmack;325178]Brian Brohm perhaps?[/quote]I'm sure they are already looking to trade up. They might be forced to "settle" for Henne.

Of course, a year ago Quinn was the obvious first overall pick, and then of course, the media machine got going and the rest is history.

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... and why did they let Schaub go? What a bonehead move.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;325204]... and why did they let Schaub go? What a bonehead move.[/quote]

For the life of me I don't know why Schaub was given such a big contract. He has started 2 NFL GAMES. I don't know his stats but the Texans are really counting a lot on a guy with no starting experience.

I think ATL got rid of him for a few reasons. One, they wanted to get something for him before he became a FA. And two they still have Vick. I gues MGT still think Vick was the better guy and they have more invested in him. He may not be a great pocket passer but he is still a good NFL QB that has playoff starting experience.

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Schaub was creating to much controversy with falcons fans trading him was a way of the front office 2 support Vick but I guess it bit them i nthe Arsh

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I really don't think he'll get cut for this. It's not good press, that's for sure, but I don't see them cutting him.... We didn't get rid of ST when he got arrested.

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[quote=hesscl34;325290]I really don't think he'll get cut for this. It's not good press, that's for sure, but I don't see them cutting him.... We didn't get rid of ST when he got arrested.[/quote]I think he'll get cut at seasons end because it allows the Falcons to rid themselves of a player who is hindering their offense while satisfing the PR side of the game.

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This whole thing smells of sabotage. The Atlanta Falcons management doesn't want Vick to lead their team; so they plant a bunch of evidence at one of his homes that he rarely visits. That way when he gets busted, they can get rid of him without absorbing a major cap hit by citing contract violation due to illegal activites. It's happening all around the NFL. Wait till we get a good commissioner who's not afraid to take on the real bad guys.










:cheeky-sm

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[quote=GTripp0012;325292]I think he'll get cut at seasons end because it allows the Falcons to rid themselves of a player who is hindering their offense while satisfing the PR side of the game.[/quote]

I don't believe Vick is going anywhere soon due to the salary cap hit, it would be over $ 16 million this season. If the Falcons do release him at some point it would probably be after June 1, 2008 when the hit would be lower and could be spread over 2008 & 2009 caps.

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we Should sign him!!!!!!!!!!



yay!

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The evening news in Hampton Roads, on the vick property.

[url=http://www.wvec.com/news/topstories/stories/wvec_local_070607_vick_search_again.4aa11966.html]Searchers back at Vick's Surry Co. property | TOP STORIES | WVEC.com | News for Hampton Roads, Virginia[/url]

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[quote=GTripp0012;325292]I think he'll get cut at seasons end because it allows the Falcons to rid themselves of a player who is hindering their offense while satisfing the PR side of the game.[/quote]

I don't think Vick is going anywhere. I don't think he is ever going to be a 65% passer. That is not his strength. That's also not what makes a good QB. Some guys, like Ben R. McNabb, Vince Young and Vick are playmakers, not pure pocket guys. He doesn't turn it over that much and he does not have good WR's so keep that in mind too. But he has gotten his team to the NFC Champ, Div round and made a Pro Bowl or two. Alot of guys in the NFL have not done that. So far IMO he is a middle of the pack NFL QB.

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Here's an update

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2927560]ESPN - Sources: Vick unlikely to be indicted in feds' probe - NFL[/url]

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[quote=GTripp0012;325292]I think he'll get cut at seasons end because it allows the Falcons to rid themselves of a player who is hindering their offense while satisfing the PR side of the game.[/quote]

So you really think they are going to cut arguably the most popular player in the league?

The man hasn't been charged with a single thing and people are talking about him being released.

And I am the one characterized as an "alarmist fool" for sharing the viewpoint of the beat reporter and one of top sportswriters in the country. Funny how things are viewed around here...

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Vick isnt going anywhere. He has too many high priced lawyers with lack of evidence on their side. Remember you can only be convicted if the evidence is concrete. In other words the FEDS have no case.

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This whole is starting to smell bad. Why are the Feds involved in the whole Vick thing? Isn't this usually a state matter and as such handled by local law enforcement?

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[quote=saden1;325441]This whole is starting to smell bad. Why are the Feds involved in the whole Vick thing? Isn't this usually a state matter and as such handled by local law enforcement?[/quote]


It became a Federal matter when Federal Laws were broke, and when a Non Virginia resident became subject to a Virginia state investigation.

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I wonder if Vick's dogs bulk up like [URL="http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/story.html?id=67f15c17-2717-4022-bb76-1b982456e793"]this[/URL]

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[quote=SmootSmack;325448]I wonder if Vick's dogs bulk up like [URL="http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/story.html?id=67f15c17-2717-4022-bb76-1b982456e793"]this[/URL][/quote]


Wow that dog is totally sweet. It said that this mutation has happend in a human before, I wonder if they were referring to Colossus?

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[QUOTE=mlmpetert;325462]Wow that dog is totally sweet. It said that this mutation has happend in a human before, I wonder if they were referring to Colossus?[/QUOTE]

If I'm Bonds, this is my alibi. Genetic mutation!

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[QUOTE=saden1;325441]This whole is starting to smell bad. Why are the Feds involved in the whole Vick thing? Isn't this usually a state matter and as such handled by local law enforcement?[/QUOTE]


You gotta ask youself, "self, how many times have I had feds on my ass?" None...why? Cause I'm a good person. So why does Vick have feds on his ass? (cough cough)

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[quote=angryssg;325417]Vick isnt going anywhere. He has too many high priced lawyers with lack of evidence on their side. Remember you can only be convicted if the evidence is concrete. In other words the FEDS have no case.[/quote]

You can only be convicted if the jury votes to convict you. People are found guilty on flimsy evidence every day. Of course, the difference here is that Vick can retain strong legal council and the government will have to have strong evidence against him in order to indict, which is the way it should always be , but isn't.

Also, any jury in that part of Virginia is likely to have at least one person who will vote to acquit Vick no matter what - because of football or race or a combination of things. If the government tried to bring a case against Vick it would have to be airtight. But, he is probably only actually guilty of attending the fights and gambling on them. His cousin is the one who will take the fall for the actual fighting which is the case that the government would like to make even though Micheal Vick is more famous. If they try to bring the dog fighting charges against Micheal Vick, they will be giving a reluctant jury an easy way out - "He just owned the house, He didn't own the dogs, etc". These are the kinds of considerations they are making. Prosecutors hate to lose and they really hate to lose when there are cameras around.

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[quote=jsarno;325464]You gotta ask youself, "self, how many times have I had feds on my ass?" None...why? Cause I'm a good person. So why does Vick have feds on his ass? (cough cough)[/quote]

I soured on the whole thing when a [URL="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsports.espn.go.com%2Fnfl%2Fnews%2Fstory%3Fid%3D2875320&ei=B9OPRvqUJZS0ggPN9KDPCA&usg=AFQjCNGksDW2fgHRdGbWrvuQOtSTl0WMIg&sig2=smS52isiBIur368vCdrq5Q"]congressman[/URL] got involved. That's a big red flag right there.

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[quote=SmootSmack;325463]If I'm Bonds, this is my alibi. Genetic mutation![/quote]

Merriman's too.

:laughing2 :laughing2

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Vick isn't going to get Atlanta to the promsied land and is an embarassment to the franchise. They made a grave error with trying to build the franchise around him and now it will be time to clean up the mess. A new town might get him to get his shit together and maybe play to more of his potential. Right now though, he sucks on or off the field.

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[QUOTE=saden1;325489]I soured on the whole thing when a [URL="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsports.espn.go.com%2Fnfl%2Fnews%2Fstory%3Fid%3D2875320&ei=B9OPRvqUJZS0ggPN9KDPCA&usg=AFQjCNGksDW2fgHRdGbWrvuQOtSTl0WMIg&sig2=smS52isiBIur368vCdrq5Q"]congressman[/URL] got involved. That's a big red flag right there.[/QUOTE]


Well, NEVER trust a democrat! :D
Ok, but seriously, I see your point, but it seems that he is in it for legit reasons, it's just that he likely has an alterior motive to gain fame through this. Maybe he is planning to run for President in 2012 or something?

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Let me know when Vick is actually charged with something. Otherwise, "Change the channell, Marge".

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;325578]Let me know when Vick is actually charged with something. Otherwise, "Change the channell, Marge".[/QUOTE]

Again...there is a reason he is in trouble with the feds, and it's not cause he keeps his nose clean.

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Michael Vick doesnt even know what was going on at his houses. He really should be a better judge at character.

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[quote=jsarno;325585]Again...there is a reason he is in trouble with the feds, and it's not cause he keeps his nose clean.[/quote]

"Change the channel, Marge".

If they had something on him everyone and their second uncle would know by now.

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;325590]"Change the channel, Marge".

If they had something on him everyone and their second uncle would know by now.[/QUOTE]

feds generally are quiet about things they find.

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[quote=jsarno;325598]feds generally are quiet about things they find.[/quote]

Even if they had something it wouldn't be anything that a high priced lawyer couldn't fix.

I would be absolutely shocked if he misses more than a few hours of camp.