Supplemental Draft to begin on Thursday July 12, do you think we will make a move?
 

We have never used a pick in 30 years, I think it would be unlikely....?

Thoughts on available talent.

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i think you lose a pick in the regular draft if you choose. if thats the case, no pick

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Last week i said I would like gaither as depth. He has been listed at 350 but that isn't what he really is. I would actually be quite happy to get him in the 5th round or so. However, he seems to be drawing more interest from other teams like jax

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[quote=dmek25;327199]i think you lose a pick in the regular draft if you choose. if thats the case, no pick[/quote]
yeah, but its sorta like actually picking a player with next years pick but just one year early. If we pick him in the 5th round in the supp draft then we give away our fifth next year.

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Id be for using a 6th or 7th rounder as those guys rarely make the team or contribute, and before I get a river of Rock fans replying, yes I know he was a late round pick but he has clearly been the exception to the rule. If we can get one of these guys for a late rounder and they add to our depth I say why not?

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Anyone know much about the CB from Georgia Oliver? i heard he held Calvin Johnson to like 2 catches, and has all the tools needed to be real at the pro level bu I never saw him play. worth a 3rd/4th rounder?

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I loved Gaither during his freshman year at UMD and I'm sad to see him go, but I don't think I would spend anything more than a 6th rounder (if that) on him. Plus, there's always the slim chance that no one takes him and we can get him as an undrafted FA, which I think is better for the salary cap.

Are there any DTs or DEs worth looking at?

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;327209]I loved Gaither during his freshman year at UMD and I'm sad to see him go, but I don't think I would spend anything more than a 6th rounder (if that) on him. Plus, there's always the slim chance that no one takes him and we can get him as an undrafted FA, which I think is better for the salary cap.

Are there any DTs or DEs worth looking at?[/quote]

That would be a nice area to pickup for sure (DE or DT), if there's a decent catch to be had.

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Gaither was suppose to be a 1'st round pick next year and some folks are talking about taking him with a 3'rd or 2'nd round pick in the supplemental draft. He's going to be a project but at 6'9" and 350 lbs he can just engulf people.

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i would take gaithers with a third round pick we need some young olinemen. Our tackles are going old.

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According to PFT.com, the rumor is that Gaithers will go in Round 5. We'll see how accruate he is on this one.

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[QUOTE=paulskinsfan;327207]Id be for using a 6th or 7th rounder as those guys rarely make the team or contribute, and before I get a river of Rock fans replying, yes I know he was a late round pick but he has clearly been the exception to the rule. If we can get one of these guys for a late rounder and they add to our depth I say why not?[/QUOTE]

But if we use a 6th/7th round pick, then we give up all chances of landing a gem like Jordan Palmer...:rolleyes:

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[quote=jdlea;327572]But if we use a 6th/7th round pick, then we give up all chances of landing a gem like Jordan Palmer...:rolleyes:[/quote]
haha, but that is why i feel that we should be getting players today. I mean, what is the big deal if we give up a 5th today for someone who is a first day talent? These players have unique situations, its not that they are bad players. I am up fro picking up gaithers today and i'll give a 5th for that. I think he'll go higher but i won't be upset with giving a 4th either. A third would be pushing it too far. Paul, nice report by PFT. I was hoping to pick him up there. We'll see but adding depth to the line was a big knock on our draft. If we can pick someone up that is decent for depth, i don't see why not.

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[quote=saden1;327217]Gaither was suppose to be a 1'st round pick next year and some folks are talking about taking him with a 3'rd or 2'nd round pick in the supplemental draft. He's going to be a project but at 6'9" and 350 lbs he can just engulf people.[/quote]
I feel that the 350 number was just overblown. I don't think he ever was that big. However, i've seen this guy around campus, he is a monster.

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[quote=BigSKINBauer;327580]haha, but that is why i feel that we should be getting players today. I mean, what is the big deal if we give up a 5th today for someone who is a first day talent? These players have unique situations, its not that they are bad players. I am up fro picking up gaithers today and i'll give a 5th for that. I think he'll go higher but i won't be upset with giving a 4th either. A third would be pushing it too far. Paul, nice report by PFT. I was hoping to pick him up there. We'll see but adding depth to the line was a big knock on our draft. If we can pick someone up that is decent for depth, i don't see why not.[/quote]


BSB, you are at Maryland aren't you?

Any truth to those 'character issues' with Gaither?

BTW Gaither at round three is a steal.

i wish Dallas didn't draft two Tackles this year, I would definitely want him at round three.

Mind you every NFL team knows that there are hella OT's coming out next year. There will be quality at OT well into the third/fourth round.

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With our current talent evaluators (and Im speaking about guys taken after Rd 3) I would go for using a 5th on Gaithers now that Ive read some about him. I just don't think the current structure can evaluate talent after the 3rd round anyway, why not?

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[quote=5RINGS;327586]BSB, you are at Maryland aren't you?

Any truth to those 'character issues' with Gaither?

BTW Gaither at round three is a steal.

i wish Dallas didn't draft two Tackles this year, I would definitely want him at round three.

Mind you every NFL team knows that there are hella OT's coming out next year. There will be quality at OT well into the third/fourth round.[/quote]
Yeah, i go to Maryland. But i've never heard anything about his character at all. I also don't know anyone that knows him so i can't ask around. The basketball team gets around here. I don't see the football team anywhere. I know a couple girls that get around with the basketball team too.

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what time is the draft by the way? How does it exactly work. Do they call off, who wants so and so in this round and if someone picks him then he goes off the board? What if two teams want someone in the 4th round, what happens? Can you pick someone up in a round if you don't have the draft spot next year. Like if you traded your 5th but you want somone there, do you have to wait for the 6th?

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer;327580]haha, but that is why i feel that we should be getting players today. I mean, what is the big deal if we give up a 5th today for someone who is a first day talent? These players have unique situations, its not that they are bad players. I am up fro picking up gaithers today and i'll give a 5th for that. I think he'll go higher but i won't be upset with giving a 4th either. A third would be pushing it too far. Paul, nice report by PFT. I was hoping to pick him up there. We'll see but adding depth to the line was a big knock on our draft. If we can pick someone up that is decent for depth, i don't see why not.[/QUOTE]

I don't know that I'd take him as high as the 4th round...5th or lower I'm comfortable with, but if he goes higher, the other teams can have him. I, personally, would have preferred the Skins grab an O Lineman in the real draft, but that's neither here nor there.

My main beef with grabbing him this year is that it's almost like taking him next year. He'll be way behind on learning the offense and that will make him ineffective, if he sees the field at all, this year. While I agree he's good, I don't think taking him too high would be wise.

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[quote=BigSKINBauer;327612]what time is the draft by the way? How does it exactly work. Do they call off, who wants so and so in this round and if someone picks him then he goes off the board? What if two teams want someone in the 4th round, what happens? Can you pick someone up in a round if you don't have the draft spot next year. Like if you traded your 5th but you want somone there, do you have to wait for the 6th?[/quote]


Slightly different. Teams submit "bids" and the highest bidding team wins. Sooo, if the Skins would use a 5th rounder on a player, they would submit that players name with a 5th round pick bid. If they are the highest bidder than they get the player and lose a corresponding draft pick in next years draft. If 2 teams submit the same bid, then it goes by draft order.

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[quote=paulskinsfan;327600]With our current talent evaluators (and Im speaking about guys taken after Rd 3) I would go for using a 5th on Gaithers now that Ive read some about him. I just don't think the current structure can evaluate talent after the 3rd round anyway, why not?[/quote]

Golston & MOntgomery made the team last year as 5th & 6th rnd. picks, and while they've yet to prove anything, many praised the skins (which is unusual) nabbing Sartz & Blades in the 5th & 6th this year.

If what you mean is that the mgmt. structure is such that the right people aren't making the calls on draft day, I don't know but you may have a point, given what's been said about the danny's meddling. But I"m not ready to say that if we commit to the draft we won't start seeing some results. I think we will, even beyond the 3rd rnd.

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oh, I do agree though that he may be worth a 5th, but I think the staff will want to keep the vets they have for depth this year, see how things work out & draft some o linemen to develop next year.

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Baltimore snagged Gaither in the 5th round. PFT was right on this one.

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[quote=freddyg12;327631]Golston & MOntgomery made the team last year as 5th & 6th rnd. picks, and while they've yet to prove anything, many praised the skins (which is unusual) nabbing Sartz & Blades in the 5th & 6th this year.

If what you mean is that the mgmt. structure is such that the right people aren't making the calls on draft day, I don't know but you may have a point, given what's been said about the danny's meddling. But I"m not ready to say that if we commit to the draft we won't start seeing some results. I think we will, even beyond the 3rd rnd.[/quote]


I have no faith in the Scouting Dep't of the Skins, or in the draft picks utilized by the FO, to select quailty talent past round 3. Yes, Golston & Montgomery made the team, but IMO that speaks to our incredible lack of talent on the D-line more than their respective abilities. I think on most teams, those guys don't even make the squad.

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Gaither went to Baltimore in the fifth round.
I think that's a great pick up for them because I could definitely see him taking over for Ogden in a year or so.

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That sucks.

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[quote=paulskinsfan;327666]Baltimore snagged Gaither in the 5th round. PFT was right on this one.[/quote]

PFT, actually got something right...?

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[quote=paulskinsfan;327669]I have no faith in the Scouting Dep't of the Skins, or in the draft picks utilized by the FO, to select quailty talent past round 3. Yes, Golston & Montgomery made the team, but IMO that speaks to our incredible lack of talent on the D-line more than their respective abilities. I think on most teams, those guys don't even make the squad.[/quote]

Golston would definitely make most teams in this league, maybe not as a starter but as a #3 DT in a rotation he's a quality backup.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;327708]PFT, actually got something right...?[/quote]

If you throw enough turds at the wall one of them is bound to stick.

They probably ripped off another source anyway, that's all they seem to do.

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[quote=Mattyk72;327713]If you throw enough turds at the wall one of them is bound to stick.

They probably ripped off another source anyway, that's all they seem to do.[/quote]

That's about the size of it, even a blind squireel get's a nut every now and then...?

That describes PFT pretty well....TURD!

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Don't know if it's been mentioned. But Paul Oliver went to the Chargers in the 4th round

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[quote=SmootSmack;327761]Don't know if it's been mentioned. But Paul Oliver went to the Chargers in the 4th round[/quote]

I bet The Chargers put Oliver at Safety cause he is too slow to be an NFL CB and the Chargers Safety situation was pretty bad...

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[quote=SmootSmack;327761]Don't know if it's been mentioned. But Paul Oliver went to the Chargers in the 4th round[/quote]

Just read that.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2934052]ESPN - Two taken in supplemental draft - NFL[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;327761]Don't know if it's been mentioned. But Paul Oliver went to the Chargers in the 4th round[/quote]


This is the guy from Georgia who shut down Fitzgerald in the last game last year.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;327825]This is the guy from Georgia who shut down Fitzgerald in the last game last year.[/QUOTE]

Fitzgerald? You mean CJ?

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[quote=70Chip;327825]This is the guy from Georgia who shut down Fitzgerald in the last game last year.[/quote]

you mean johnson??

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dammit smoot you beat me by a minute

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[quote=70Chip;327825]This is the guy from Georgia who shut down Fitzgerald in the last game last year.[/quote]


70Chip.......tighten up my southern fried, redskin friend....! Fitzgerald....?

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Sorry. My first senior moment at age 36. Thanks for the correction. He reminds me of Fitzgerald I guess.

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[quote=70Chip;327838]Sorry. My first senior moment at age 36. Thanks for the correction. He reminds me of Fitzgerald I guess.[/quote]

Early stages...? At such a Young age! lol