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12thMan 07-27-2007 03:17 PM

12th's 2007 NFC EAST PREDICTIONS
 
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]With the off season officially over, I figured now is as good a time as any to put my NFC East predictions out there. There probably won’t be anything here that hasn’t been said or predicted in one thread or another, I just wanted to officially get my juices flowing and maybe revisit this in January.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]First of all, I think it’s safe to say the talent level between these NFC East teams isn’t all that great. So winning the division could boil down to how well these teams manage injuries, because there will be some, and how well they’re coached - especially when December rolls around. [/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]I think the common theme here is how well the quarterbacks for the respective teams perform and will they perform well. I'll try to be as objective as possible without giving way to the homer inside me, but don't count on it![/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]


[B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][B]1.[/B][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][COLOR=black][COLOR=black] [B][B][FONT=Verdana][FONT=Verdana]The [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/B][/COLOR][/COLOR][B][B][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Philadelphia[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/B][B][B][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] Eagles: (10-6)[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/B][COLOR=black][COLOR=black] I could sum up the Eagles success or failure this year in two words: Donovan McNabb. The Eagles are one vicious hit away by Laron Landry from seeing their season go bye-bye. There will be no heroic effort by this year's version of Jeff Garcia to bail them out. [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]That being said, Andy Reid more than likely will have the Eagles focused straight out the gate. The defense returns many of its key starters from last season, which will be spearheaded by the fierce leadership of Brian Dawkins. Takeo Spikes should also be an upgrade at linebacker over the recently departed Dhani Jones. The Eagles do have some question marks at wide receiver, but between, perhaps, the most underrated running back in all of football, Brian Westbrooks, L.J. Smith and Reggie Brown, McNabb should manage enough points and wins to squeak out a divisional title. [/COLOR][/COLOR][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]I think it’s wise to count on David Akers to kick the Eagles into a couple of close wins too.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][B]Key losses: Jeff Garcia and Dante Stallworth[/B][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]


[B][B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]2. The Washington Redskins: (10-6[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]) Depending on whether or not you live inside the Beltway (or you’re a Warpather!), you may not hear a lot of positive things about the 2007 season, but there’s good reason for plenty of optimism these days around Redskins Park. Like the Eagles, the Redskins return most of its 2006 starters on both sides of the ball, had a few key acquisitions during the off season, and third year quarterback [I][I][FONT=Verdana][FONT=Verdana][B][I]Jason Campbell[/I][/B][/FONT][/FONT][/I][/I] could be the next coming of Doug Williams, or so we hope! [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]The pundits will quickly point to [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]Campbell[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]’s inexperience, Joe Gibbs’ age and how the game has passed him by, and Dan Snyder’s inability to put together a winning franchise since buying the team. But they fail to highlight that [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]Campbell[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black] is surrounded by arguably the best offensive talent in the division, Gibbs and Al Saunders have worked vigorously to iron out the wrinkles from last year, and Snyder has receded into the background well since Gibbs’ arrival. [/COLOR][/COLOR][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]The biggest question marks for the Redskins may not be how well Jason Campbell performs, but can they develop the killer instinct that allowed a few close games to get away last year and the ability to create more turnovers. [/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]If the Redskins want to truly become a playoff caliber team, they’ll have to close the deal more often and have a nose for the ball. [/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][B]Key losses: Derrick Dockery [/B][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]


[B][B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]3. The [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B][B][B][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Dallas[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/B][B][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][B]Cowboys: (8-8) [/B][/COLOR][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]Publicly the Cowboys will say last year’s playoff lost to [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]Seattle[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black] is a thing of the past, and it’s all in the rear view mirror. Read the fine print: ([I][I]Objects are closer than they appear[/I][/I]) While I’ll admit the Dallas Cowboys are probably better than the 8-8 record I’m projecting, it will take time for new head coach Wade Phillips’ (HC) and Jason Garrett’s (OC) offense to jell. And one has to wonder if that botched snap will have any lingering effect on Tony Romo's psyche. [/COLOR][/COLOR][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]Wade Phillips comes to [/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]Dallas[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black] with strong defensive credentials, so I don’t think there will be any drop off here, if any. If I’m a [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]Dallas[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black] fan, I would expect the Cowboys to bring in a place kicker to compete with Martin Gramatic[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]a.[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=black] Gramatica filled in admirably late last season, but may not be the long term solution. [/COLOR][/COLOR]
[B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][B]Key losses: None[/B][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]

[B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][B]4. The New York Giants: (7-9) [/B][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][I]The New York Giants, at least on paper, would be the logical choice to finish last in the division, but this team is very capable of lighting up the score board on any given Sunday and could just as easily end up 11-5. [/I][/COLOR][/COLOR]

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black]The defensive unit lost a few faces during the off season, but is still anchored by one of the best in the business in linebacker Antonio Pierce. The defensive line features one of the league's best DE tandems in Michael Strahan and [/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]Osi Umenyiora. Look for draft pick Aaron Ross (CB, Texas) to make an impact on a very suspect secondary.

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]The core group on offense is no doubt very talented, but there remains a huge hole left by the retirement of Tiki Barber. Brandon Jacobs provided a nice one-two punch along with Barber last year, but whether or not he’s ready to be the featured back in Tom Coughlin’s offense is a big question. Furthermore can Eli Manning, though brilliant at times last season, overcome his inconsistency and oft poor decision making that caused the Giants to melt down in the second half of the season. He reminds of the little girl with the curl; when he’s good he’s very good, and when he’s bad, he’s very bad. [/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]This is a team that never seems to be free of locker room controversy or its love-hate relationship with coach Tom Coughlin. All of this may prove to be an insurmountable task for the Giants to put together a winning season. [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][B]Key losses: Tiki Barber, Jay Feely, Carlos Emmons, Luke Petitgout, Bob Whitfield, Jim Finn.[/B][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]

hooskins 07-27-2007 03:21 PM

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Nice post 12th, I can see you put some time and thought into it. I agree with most of what you are saying, including the order in which you have ranked the NFC East.

I do feel, however, that our offense is not as much of a concern as the defense. The defense has questions at Dline, corner, and safety(rookie Landry) plus we can't afford injuries on that side of the ball. I think the D will determine if we do well or end up like last year.

firstdown 07-27-2007 03:28 PM

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I hope the the WR's coach spent some time with Rogers to teach him how to catch the football. He had himself in position for 6 int's which he flat out dropped and I think our failure to create turnovers last year was a fluke. Everytime the ball hit the ground it seemed that it bounced right back to the other team.

JWsleep 07-27-2007 03:28 PM

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Good post, 12th. Sounds pretty good, but I agree with hoos about the D--if they can keep us close, the O ought to be able to put up enough points to win some games.

Warpath 07-27-2007 03:28 PM

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Redskins 11-5
Cowboys 9-7
Eagles 7-9
Cowboys 6-10

EARTHQUAKE2689 07-27-2007 03:29 PM

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I loved that post 12th. I thought there would be a key additions area too but overall great read.

EARTHQUAKE2689 07-27-2007 03:31 PM

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Redskins: 12-4 (6-0 in the NFC East)
Eagles:9-7
Cowboys: 8-8
Giants 5-11

hesscl34 07-27-2007 03:35 PM

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Great post.. but can we fire Rogers? That would help.

12thMan 07-27-2007 03:39 PM

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[quote=hesscl34;333708]Great post.. but can we fire Rogers? That would help.[/quote]


You love Rogers, dontcha?

hooskins 07-27-2007 03:40 PM

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[quote=hesscl34;333708]Great post.. but can we fire Rogers? That would help.[/quote]

And replace him with exactly who?

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2007 03:51 PM

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[quote=hesscl34;333708]Great post.. but can we fire Rogers? That would help.[/quote]

Wager is still in full effect. You'll have to dig it up, but I think if he gets a certain amount of INTs barring injury, you owe me or I owe you.

MTK 07-27-2007 03:53 PM

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Skins 11-5
Eagles 10-6
Cowboys 9-7
Giants 6-10

12thMan 07-27-2007 04:05 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;333721]Skins 11-5
Eagles 10-6
Cowboys 9-7
Giants 6-10[/quote]

I like, I like

hesscl34 07-27-2007 04:06 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;333720]Wager is still in full effect. You'll have to dig it up, but I think if he gets a certain amount of INTs barring injury, you owe me or I owe you.[/quote]

I think we were going to buy the winner something from the Redskins store... I need a fleece. Size M.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2007 04:08 PM

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That's a bet you will lose. This is a guarantee.

hesscl34 07-27-2007 04:13 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;333729]That's a bet you will lose. This is a guarantee.[/quote]

The bet was 6 interceptions I think.. Not 1, but 6! Um, unless cows fly I think I'll be winning this bet.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-27-2007 04:16 PM

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You should HOPE I win, because that will mean good things.

hesscl34 07-27-2007 04:18 PM

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Smoot is the man... (but I do, in a small way, hope you win for the Skins).

Giantone 07-27-2007 06:08 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;333705]Redskins: 12-4 (6-0 in the NFC East)
Eagles:9-7
Cowboys: 8-8
Giants 5-11[/quote]




LOL.......................Good one!:pffff:


Redskins : 9-7 win the East
Cowgirls : 8-8
Eaglets: 8-8
Giants:7-9

EARTHQUAKE2689 07-27-2007 06:37 PM

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[quote=Giantone;333770]LOL.......................Good one!:pffff:


Redskins : 9-7 win the East
Cowgirls : 8-8
Eaglets: 8-8
Giants:7-9[/quote]


sig says it all.

EARTHQUAKE2689 07-27-2007 06:38 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;333739]You should HOPE I win, because that will mean good things.[/quote]


I see 5-7 interception from Carlos Rogers.

dmek25 07-27-2007 06:50 PM

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12th, good read and lots of time was spent doing it. i see 10 wins winning the east. all 4 teams are very close, but i do like the skins chances

12thMan 07-27-2007 08:22 PM

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[quote=Warpath;333701]Redskins 11-5
Cowboys 9-7
Eagles 7-9
Cowboys 6-10[/quote]

Dang, Warpath...you have the Cowboys losing an awful lot of games this year!!! Nice!

Daseal 07-27-2007 08:31 PM

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I'm not too worried about the Eagles. They'll start hot and die as always. McNabb just can't stay healthy and without Garcia they're in trouble. I also doubt Reggie Brown and the rest of their receivers can make up for a Stallworth. Their D is fairly solid and will be competing for the division. I think Dallas has a very well rounded team and could play very well if Wade Phillips can get it together. The D may be something to be reckoned with if he can turn those LBs into machines like he did in SD.

The Redskins right now are really in limbo, we have a lot of questions. If most of them pan out (I feel our defense will really bounce back. Last year was the exception, not the rule) but I'm not sure Campbell is ready to make a huge leap yet. Will we try to overprotect him and not let him make some tough throws? Will we be over-conservative and run too much? While I feel our line and team (Portis / Betts combo) is built for running to be followed by playaction, but I could see us overdoing it and handcuffing the offense.

12thMan 07-27-2007 08:36 PM

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[quote=Daseal;333801]I'm not too worried about the Eagles. They'll start hot and die as always. McNabb just can't stay healthy and without Garcia they're in trouble. I also doubt Reggie Brown and the rest of their receivers can make up for a Stallworth. Their D is fairly solid and will be competing for the division. I think Dallas has a very well rounded team and could play very well if Wade Phillips can get it together. The D may be something to be reckoned with if he can turn those LBs into machines like he did in SD.

The Redskins right now are really in limbo, we have a lot of questions. If most of them pan out (I feel our defense will really bounce back. Last year was the exception, not the rule) but I'm not sure Campbell is ready to make a huge leap yet. Will we try to overprotect him and not let him make some tough throws? Will we be over-conservative and run too much? While I feel our line and team (Portis / Betts combo) is built for running to be followed by playaction, but I could see us overdoing it and handcuffing the offense.[/quote]

I think you could be dead on with the Eagles. If McNabb goes down they're cooked this time. But I tend disagree on the rest not making up for Stallworth. He was only there for a little bit, and McNabb tends to get production out of whomever lines up. But hey, I hope you're right.

It will be interesting to see how we let Cambell run the team. That's going to be the most interesting side story coming out of camp.

hesscl34 07-27-2007 09:02 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;333774]I see 5-7 interception from Carlos Rogers.[/quote]

DREAM ON. Unless someone takes him out back and beats him you can forget it. .... that man is scared of fame. Every chance he gets he blows it. No confidence.

hesscl34 07-27-2007 09:04 PM

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[quote=12thMan;333796]Dang, Warpath...you have the Cowboys losing an awful lot of games this year!!! Nice![/quote]

Gotta love Warpath... :) and I think with the new coach he's right on the money!!!!!!!!! You forgot to mention in the Dallas Losses: COACH

That's a big one 12th!

Smooter 07-27-2007 09:08 PM

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[QUOTE=Warpath;333701]Redskins 11-5
Cowboys 9-7
Eagles 7-9
Cowboys 6-10[/QUOTE]

Where did the Giants go? lol

hesscl34 07-27-2007 09:16 PM

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[quote=Smooter;333807]Where did the Giants go? lol[/quote]

LOL...:confused: I really wish you guys would be more clear when you post.. very hard to understand ...

Giantone 07-28-2007 04:10 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;333774]I see 5-7 interception from Carlos Rogers.[/quote]


You need to see a doctor.:smashfrea

EARTHQUAKE2689 07-28-2007 04:26 PM

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[quote=Giantone;333940]You need to see a doctor.:smashfrea[/quote]
maybe I do. But Carlos will get at least 5 in 2007. I guarantee it.

GusFrerotte 07-28-2007 05:58 PM

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[quote=12thMan;333802]I think you could be dead on with the Eagles. If McNabb goes down they're cooked this time. But I tend disagree on the rest not making up for Stallworth. He was only there for a little bit, and McNabb tends to get production out of whomever lines up. But hey, I hope you're right.

It will be interesting to see how we let Cambell run the team. That's going to be the most interesting side story coming out of camp.[/quote]


I agree, if JC doesn't improve a ton, along with Lloyd, our offense will stink. Eagles are the favs' but that only matters if McNabb is healthy. Dallas is a big ? They could be a very formidable team. I am betting they will be. The Gmen are toast!!!!! Put a fork in MR. Eli!!!!

NFC East 2007 Predictions

10-6 Dallas *
9-7 Washington *
8-8 Philly
5-11 New York

*If JC and his WR Crew get it together switch ranking easily!!!!!

skinsfan_nn 07-28-2007 06:08 PM

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[quote=GusFrerotte;333945]I agree, if JC doesn't improve a ton, along with Lloyd, our offense will stink. Eagles are the favs' but that only matters if McNabb is healthy. Dallas is a big ? They could be a very formidable team. I am betting they will be. The Gmen are toast!!!!! Put a fork in MR. Eli!!!!

NFC East 2007 Predictions

10-6 Dallas
9-7 Washington
8-8 Philly
5-11 New York[/quote]

I don't know about JC having to improve a ton, he has to understand the system and get the timimg down with the WR's and be smart with the football.

And Lloyd....? You really believe those are the only two keys to our offense being a sucess or we will stink, your dead wrong!

What about our O-line, Clinton, Santana, El, Cooley, Betts, Sellers, Thrash, these are huge pieces of are offensive sucess. JC doesn't have to win the game for us but he can't give the game away either, he has to be smart and put the ball in the hands of skilled players and let them do there job.

We will win the division!

GusFrerotte 07-28-2007 06:17 PM

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;333946]I don't know about JC having to improve a ton, he has to understand the system and get the timimg down with the WR's and be smart with the football.

And Lloyd....? You really believe those are the only two keys to our offense being a sucess or we will stink, your dead wrong!

What about our O-line, Clinton, Santana, El, Cooley, Betts, Sellers, Thrash, these are huge pieces of are offensive sucess. JC doesn't have to win the games for us, he has to be smart and put the ball in the hands of skilled players and let them do there job.

We will win the division![/quote]


YEah they are the key to the offense. Why, because the other elements of the offense worked fine last season. Our offense was not much of a threat in the air and hindered our offensive production. Last time I checked Moss is part of the WR corp that I mentioned. As for winning the division that is a distinct possibility, but our air game must improve and our defense must improve a lot as well. Also I how many times have we fans been put in this situation as of late? We stink one year with a banged up team, everyone gets healthy and we say " We are going to kick ass this year!!!" Only in the end to get another subpar year.Too many holes and what if's to just give the Skins the division on a platter. If more of the ifs and outright questions get anwered about this team in the affirmative we can definitely win the division for sure. Just don't hold your breath.

12thMan 07-28-2007 06:34 PM

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I think most of us here, and maybe I'm being presumptuous, want JC to have a great year. He doesn't have to. If he can simply build on what he did last year, and keep mistakes to a reasonble minimum, we'll be fine.

If JC can throw for 2,500 yds, 12TDS, 5-6 Ints...I'd put money on a playoff berth.

Darrell_Green_28 07-28-2007 06:50 PM

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[quote=hesscl34;333808]LOL...:confused: I really wish you guys would be more clear when you post.. very hard to understand ...[/quote]

if you look at the post he has the cowboys listed 2 times thats what i think he means by where did the giants go

Originally Posted by [B]Warpath[/B] [URL="http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/19000-12ths-2007-nfc-east-predictions-post333701.html#post333701"][IMG]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif[/IMG][/URL]
[I]Redskins 11-5
Cowboys 9-7
Eagles 7-9
Cowboys 6-10[/I]
Where did the Giants go? lol

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR 07-29-2007 06:27 PM

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eagles 11-5
cowboys 10-6
skins 8-8
giants 8-8


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