A Great Mockery of the BCS System
 

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I've always been against a playoff in college football, because I like the way Bowl season not only decides the champion, but is great for TV. However, we seriously need a better way of deciding who the two best teams in the Nation are than letting the bozos who administer these polls vote for the best teams.

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there should be a playoff, no doubt.

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Needs playoff without a doubt. Why is it the only major sports event without playoffs??

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i really cant understand the thinking for NOT having a playoff. you can still use the bowl games, but just in tournament style the whole bcs thing is retarded

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[QUOTE=dmek25;337038]i really cant understand the thinking for NOT having a playoff. you can still use the bowl games, but just in tournament style the whole bcs thing is retarded[/QUOTE]

Yeah it isn't difficult to figure out. What I don't get is why the NCAA runs March Madness and makes BILLIONS off of it and then runs the BCS and makes MILLIONS off of it. Football is more popular in this country. That alone should show them that the way they run the "post season" is flawed. Screw tradition. Really does anyone care about it? I can't see why anyone cares about the traditions of a bowl system that is just a bunch of meaningless games. THESE GAMES MEAN NOTHING.

Them: "Woohoo we won the rose bowl this year!"
Me: "Cool, what did that get you?"
Them: "Umm, we got to watch a parade and spend our money"

Dumb.

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Bcs = Bs

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The reason I heard that school presidents are against it is because of missed classes that will occur as a result - which is crap. With basketball the players miss a ton of classes not only during the tournament but also during the regular season compared to football. Also, if you went to a 16 team tournament that would only be an extra month for the finalists, 3 weeks for semis and so on - so the season is only long for a few teams - not everyone.
Heck I would like to see a 32 team tournament - 1 month and one extra week of football is not that bad and I bet it would rake in more money than March Madness in a couple of years - maybe sooner. Plus - if you ran the tournament right after classes end in the winter, there would be really no lost class time as the School Presidents say there would be. You could get rid of the computers and let the champ be decided on the field and it would make College Football even better.

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The only good thing I can say about college football is that the regular season is amazing.

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I have to tell you, I agree there should be a a playoff system in the NCAA, but the bowl system has been around for so long it's a tradition. Being a Florida fan I would like to see Florida lay the smack down on Boise.

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You don't even need to have 32 teams. Just do 8 and the rest can be in bowls. You could use the BCS for that - which in my opinion is no worse than a bunch of damn sports reporters voting. The point is to give the most deserving teams a chance to play for the title. Sure, you can argue about who might be 7 or 8, but you would at least know that a 3/4 wasn't getting screwed out of a chance. 3 weeks would do it.

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Using the Bowls as a playoff system has been proposed numerous times. The finale would have to rotate between the Rose, Orange, and Fiesta, I suppose.

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[QUOTE=Cowell;337665]I have to tell you, I agree there should be a a playoff system in the NCAA, but the bowl system has been around for so long it's a tradition. Being a Florida fan I would like to see Florida lay the smack down on Boise.[/QUOTE]

NASCAR had a tradition of no playoffs, but they changed that last year with the "chase for the cup" which is the playoffs of NASCAR.
Tradition or not, it needs to be changed. If they change it, everyone will love it.

The people that don't want it changed are the ones that have their pocket books getting fatter and fatter from the bowl games.

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[QUOTE=backrow;337722]Using the Bowls as a playoff system has been proposed numerous times. The finale would have to rotate between the Rose, Orange, and Fiesta, I suppose.[/QUOTE]

It can be done if someone is serious about changing the system. It can easily be done.

I will say this, March Madness is much more popular because they use brackets to decide their playoff system. It's the most fun of any playoff system. Football is the LEAST fun. I am not interested in bowl games unless it's for the national championship, or my Fighting Irish are playing.

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[quote=munny;337717]You don't even need to have 32 teams. Just do 8 and the rest can be in bowls. You could use the BCS for that - which in my opinion is no worse than a bunch of damn sports reporters voting. The point is to give the most deserving teams a chance to play for the title. Sure, you can argue about who might be 7 or 8, but you would at least know that a 3/4 wasn't getting screwed out of a chance. 3 weeks would do it.[/quote]Uh, the BCS [I]is[/I] a bunch of damn sportswriters voting. That's what's wrong with it. There's absolutely no standard and its heavily founded on preconcieved (and often preseason) notions.

I could see a playoff system with the top 8 teams, but how do you decide who makes the top eight?

To me, a playoff system solves no problems. It just expands the Championship field to include some teams who should not be playing for a championship. If the NCAA can't come up with a better way to rank teams than letting the sportswriters make polls (the worst possible way), then they system will be inherently flawed no matter what.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;337830]Uh, the BCS [I]is[/I] a bunch of damn sportswriters voting. That's what's wrong with it. There's absolutely no standard and its heavily founded on preconcieved (and often preseason) notions.

I could see a playoff system with the top 8 teams, but how do you decide who makes the top eight?

To me, a playoff system solves no problems. It just expands the Championship field to include some teams who should not be playing for a championship. If the NCAA can't come up with a better way to rank teams than letting the sportswriters make polls (the worst possible way), then they system will be inherently flawed no matter what.[/QUOTE]

I think 8 would be too few, but 32 would be too many, so 16 would be just about right.
Besides, Boise ST. went undefeated last year and they barely made the 8th spot. That wasn't right. I'd love to see a plan that had the top 25 in it. Everyone shoots for the top 25, so if they could come up with a playoff plan that included them, I'd be hooked!

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Only time the BCS ever got it right was 2005. Only because both teams were undefeated

Take the top 4 teams in the nation after the regular season my example is from last year

1. Ohio State
2. Florida
3. Michigan
4. LSU/USC cant remember

play 1,4 and 2,3 and the winners play for the national title because to be honest LSU/Florida would have been a much better game because LSU would have smashed Ohio State just as bad as Florida did.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;337896]Only time the BCS ever got it right was 2005. Only because both teams were undefeated

Take the top 4 teams in the nation after the regular season my example is from last year

1. Ohio State
2. Florida
3. Michigan
4. LSU/USC cant remember

play 1,4 and 2,3 and the winners play for the national title because to be honest LSU/Florida would have been a much better game because LSU would have smashed Ohio State just as bad as Florida did.[/QUOTE]

There you go plugging LSU again. LOL.

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[quote=jsarno;337924]There you go plugging LSU again. LOL.[/quote]


I am not plugging now that I remember they were 4 and whipped your fighting irish's ass all the way back to south bend.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;337949]I am not plugging now that I remember they were 4 and whipped your fighting irish's ass all the way back to south bend.[/quote]They were really [I]really[/I] good.

They also have become "your" Tigers since that game was played...you Tiger you.

Be honest now, how much of an effect did that game have on your college choice?

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[quote=GTripp0012;337955]They were really [I]really[/I] good.

They also have become "your" Tigers since that game was played...you Tiger you.

Be honest now, how much of an effect did that game have on your college choice?[/quote]


No I have been an LSU fan since like 96. But I didnt join the site till after that game was played and didnt know that Jsarno was a ND fan till like 2 weeks ago so I can see how yo came to that conclsion. LSU all the way in 2007

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;337949]I am not plugging now that I remember they were 4 and whipped your fighting irish's ass all the way back to south bend.[/QUOTE]


Yet another shameless plug.