Clinton Portis' Knees
 

So I have been mildly concerned about Portis' tendonitis, but not too worried. I was talking to a guy today, though, and he was arguing that tendonitis is more serious than I had thought and that this injury will most likely linger and cause Clinton problems all year. I have tried finding more information on tendonitis and how that injury has affected guys in the past but I can't find much. Are there any orthepedists who could provide me with some solid information on how big a problem tendonitis is and whether Portis will likely face problems stemming from this injury all year? Can anyone think of another instance where a running back has had problems with tendonitis and how that has affected them? I believe Marshall Faulk said on NFL Network that he dealt with tendonitis in his second year and I can see that he did not miss any games that season. Any information is much appreciated.

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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendonitis]Tendonitis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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[quote=Redskins8588;340436][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendonitis"]Tendonitis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL][/quote]

Yeah, I read that, and Googled other stuff, but unless I'm missing something it doesn't have any football-specific information. I can use a search engine, I was hoping someone might have some better insight than I can find online.

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I was curious myself and I went there first, just to see exactly what Tendinitis was. From what they are saying I guess it comes down to how bad Clinton's microscopic tears truly are.

I didn't post the link to Wikipedia with the intent on attacking your ability to use a search engine, I just thought that, like myself, others may not know or understand what Tendinitis truly is and that the link I provided could be of assistance to others...

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[quote=Redskins8588;340442]I was curious myself and I went there first, just to see exactly what Tendinitis was. From what they are saying I guess it comes down to how bad Clinton's microscopic tears truly are.

I didn't post the link to Wikipedia with the intent on attacking your ability to use a search engine, I just thought that, like myself, others may not know or understand what Tendinitis truly is and that the link I provided could be of assistance to others...[/quote]

Sure, sure. Sorry for coming off like a jerk, didn't mean it to come off like that. Thanks.

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Tendonitis is an issue with the tendons which tend to hurt.

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If CP can't play in any of the preseason games something is awfully wrong, meaning his tendonitis is a bigger problem that the franchise lets on. Tendonitis is no laughing matter, but from I have heard in here and from what the franchise lets on is it is not that critical. I just wonder if he can take a good pounding week to week though. I wouldn't draft CP for my fantasy team.

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He is going to be hobbled al year long and I would guess this is something that likely will plague him for the rest of his career. Connective tissue (ligaments and tendons) heal very slowly because they don't get blood flow like other parts of the body. The little tears might never really heal. The question with tendonitis is how much pain you can endure and how weak it makes the knee in this case. Thankfully Betts is in the bag so this is MUCH less of an issue now.

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Tendonitis is [I]never[/I] serious, but it [B]can[/B] be quite chronic. It's a foregone conclusion that CP will be in the starting lineup Week 1, but the problem is that over the next 17 weeks, theres little certainty that he will be able to keep playing.

If he hurts his shoulder, and is bothered by knee tendonitis, hes [B]a lot[/B] more likely to sit the game out than if just his shoulder was giving him trouble.

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Joe Gibbs said Portis Condition is fine but he might only carry the ball 3 times this SAT.

Its not a huge problem if we have intill 3 more weeks intill Season kick off.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;340458]Tendonitis is [I]never[/I] serious, but it [B]can[/B] be quite chronic. It's a foregone conclusion that CP will be in the starting lineup Week 1, but the problem is that over the next 17 weeks, theres little certainty that he will be able to keep playing.

If he hurts his shoulder, and is bothered by knee tendonitis, hes [B]a lot[/B] more likely to sit the game out than if just his shoulder was giving him trouble.[/QUOTE]

I actually have tendonitis in both of my knees and it's not that big of a deal for me. The pain isn't that bad while I'm participating in an activity. However, the next day I have a lot of trouble moving around/standing up. I feel like Portis will miss a lot more practice than he will actual gametime.

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[quote=jdlea;340470]I actually have tendonitis in both of my knees and it's not that big of a deal for me. The pain isn't that bad while I'm participating in an activity. However, the next day I have a lot of trouble moving around/standing up. I feel like Portis will miss a lot more practice than he will actual gametime.[/quote]I had tendonitis in my throwing elbow for three years. Between baseball and football, I've never really had any down time. When I stopped playing football, it went away pretty fast.

Course, with knee tendonitis, it seems pretty much impossible to ever get some true down time. Unless they have CP on crutches, its a whole different ballgame than elbow tendonitis.

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i've got the same thing he's got, and it definitely CAN be serious. it can turn into tendonOsis, and, if you keep running on it, it can buckle or rupture.

my knee's been bad for about 7 weeks now and it's just stopped getting worse (finally), but i haven't been running or marching on it for over a month.

tendonitis usually only lasts 7-10 days (it's an inflammation of the tissue that connects your upper and lower leg muscles, and it's right around the bottom part of your knee cap, on the front side). if that's all you have, you take naproxsyn or naprosyn (anti inflammitories) for a couple weeks and everything's cool.

going on over a year that's probably not what he has though, and if he's playing bball or some such over the offseason, that means it can't heal... and at that point, anti-inflammitories really don't do anything besides upsetting your stomach.

what i've had to do is ice it (a lot) and work heavily on thigh muscles to make up for it, while staying away from things like squats, jumping, and heavy running... getting the equivalent of shots in my knees too (they can use medicated pads and electrical current to get the same effect now).


anyways, not exactly fun times with that, and i doubt this is the last you see of it.

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I'm more inclined to play the wait and see game with Clinton, knowing his utter disdain for practice, as well as preseason games which he made clear last preseason. I'm anxious to see what his position will be when the preseason has expired.

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Tendinitis is inflammation of the knee tendons to put it simply.

It's really not a huge concern as long as they can keep the inflammation down. Then it's up to CP as to how much pain he can play with.

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I think right now the training staff is being overly cautious with everyone. Even more cautious than usual based on what happened last year with CP and others like Springs.

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I had Tendonitis in both knee's , behind the knee cap. It took awhile to heel. I have partially torn the same two ligaments in my ankle three times , the last injury I had two Orthropidics push me to have surgery. I chose to pass on the knife , took anti-inflamitories , rehab, R.I.C.E and took 2 Calcium/Magnesium tablets a day . The Calc/ Mag. tablets have always worked like magic for me in helping me recover from minor injuries . Hope it might work for any of you if you get hurt working out . As always , ask your doctor questions . Good luck to all of you who are hurt !!

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[quote=Mattyk72;340482]I think right now the training staff is being overly cautious with everyone. Even more cautious than usual based on what happened last year with CP and others like Springs.[/quote]


They need to be for sure. Hopefully CP can block out the pain and not sustain anymore injuries over the season, but that is highley unlikely.

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if he cant play at least we have betts. Hopefully portis will be injury free this year.

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This does not have to be a big issue and the staff is making the right moves to minimize this. That said, this is IMO how it will be with CP form now on. He's got a bit of milage on him and now he seems injury prone. This is another nagging problem for him that just makes thing more difficult for the O in general.

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[quote=Longtimefan;340479]I'm more inclined to play the wait and see game with Clinton, knowing his utter disdain for practice, as well as preseason games which he made clear last preseason. I'm anxious to see what his position will be when the preseason has expired.[/quote]
Where did you come up with CP has an "utter disdain for pratice"? The only thing I have heard is that he does not think that preseason is that important for him and was upset getting hurt in a meaningless game last year.

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[quote=GTripp0012;340458]Tendonitis is [I]never[/I] serious, but it [B]can[/B] be quite chronic. It's a foregone conclusion that CP will be in the starting lineup Week 1, but the problem is that over the next 17 weeks, theres little certainty that he will be able to keep playing.

If he hurts his shoulder, and is bothered by knee tendonitis, hes [B]a lot[/B] more likely to sit the game out than if just his shoulder was giving him trouble.[/quote]

John Riggins talked about this on his show yesterday, he said that he thinks CP might be dealing with his knee the same way John dealt with his back that one year when it was a cronic problem...basically he played the games on Sunday and that was pretty much it...the rest of the week he was in the training room.

Riggins also mentioned the fact that although CP might not be as effective because of the injury and time missed he could still contribute as running back is the one position you can typically miss time in practice at and come back on Sunday and go right into the game without loosing as much.

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[quote=firstdown;340615]Where did you come up with CP has an "utter disdain for pratice"? The only thing I have heard is that he does not think that preseason is that important for him and was upset getting hurt in a meaningless game last year.[/quote]

I think his comments over the years make it clear that he's not a big fan of camp/preseason, etc. In his first camp presser of this year he joked around about it. A part of him is probably kidding and stretching things a bit, but I definitely think there's some truth behind his comments.

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[quote=firstdown;340453]Tendonitis is an issue with the tendons which tend to hurt.[/quote]


Here's your orthopedist!

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Champ doesnt have tendonitis....

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Here's a possibility: THe skins and CP are not sure about the severity of the injury. Sometimes tendonitis mellows with rest, other times it lingers. They're hopeful, obviously, that it's short term, but the fact that they went to Andrews the specialist says that they're worried about the slow progress.

My impression is that he can play on it, but it risks a flare up. And that could be worse. I think this is very tough for the trainers--if you rest, it might get better; but it also is a condition that a player can play with. It's more an art than a science, no doubt.

Anyway, I very much doubt that there's any attempt to mislead about the severity, etc.

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[QUOTE=firstdown;340615]Where did you come up with CP has an "utter disdain for pratice"? The only thing I have heard is that he does not think that preseason is that important for him and was upset getting hurt in a meaningless game last year.[/QUOTE]


And as a result of that, it should not be suprising to anyone that Portis is not going all out in preseason because he has made his intentions known. I'm just happy the rest of the team does not find preseason meaningless, or voiced their displeasure with playing them. Personally, I don't consider it a good example to set for the younger players, espically if you're going to be considered a leader.

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[quote=Longtimefan;340479]I'm more inclined to play the wait and see game with Clinton, knowing his [B]utter disdain for practice, as well as preseason games which he made clear last preseason[/B]. I'm anxious to see what his position will be when the preseason has expired.[/quote]

Um, I am pretty sure you wouldn't be too excited after you get injured in a totally meaningless game. Plus too many people forgot how he got hurt last preseason. He was running full speed to make a tackle after a turnover. Its not like he wasnt trying because he hated preseason all along. Whenever CP plays he goes 100 percent, and he also voices his opinion about preseason, which I do think is true. That doesnt mean it is "utter disdain".

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[quote=Longtimefan;340687]And as a result of that, it should not be suprising to anyone that Portis is not going all out in preseason because he has made his intentions known. I'm just happy the rest of the team does not find preseason meaningless, or voiced their displeasure with playing them. Personally, I don't consider it a good example to set for the younger players, espically if you're going to be considered a leader.[/quote]

Well preseason is pointless, this isn't about being a good role model and all that flowery bullshit. Preseason is about big bucks and business. Only reason there are 4 games is to make money. The NFL and owners want to fill seats and boost sales. If you actually look at it rationally a 4 game season is meaningless. 2-3 would be much better, but that would never happen.

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Hopefully Betts finishes the season injury free.

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[quote=hooskins;340691]Well preseason is pointless, this isn't about being a good role model and all that flowery bullshit. Preseason is about big bucks and business. Only reason there are 4 games is to make money. The NFL and owners want to fill seats and boost sales. If you actually look at it rationally a 4 game season is meaningless. 2-3 would be much better, but that would never happen.[/quote]

Agreed.

The players themselves understand this even more than we can. On a related note most players don't have a problem with guys who hold out either... they know it's all about getting what you can while you're in the game.

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[quote=Mattyk72;340696]Agreed.

The players themselves understand this even more than we can. On a related note most players don't have a problem with guys who hold out either... they know it's all about getting what you can while you're in the game.[/quote]


Its a flawed system where a Veteran player has to resort to holding out while rookies coming into the league get the guaranteed money.

Fans call them greedy and all that but many times its not correct.

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[quote=JDALY27;340697]Its a flawed system where a Veteran player has to resort to holding out while rookies coming into the league get the guaranteed money.

Fans call them greedy and all that but many times its not correct.[/quote]

yeah good point

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i still get tendonitis in both my legs all the way up the side of my lower leg during club lacrosse season. now i have never had it in my knee so i dont know what it feels like, but when i get it it usally goes away in a week or so. i play through it even tho my doc always says to rest. i know......i'm a tough SOB. haha jk

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lol chrisl4064

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well if they dont want to cut back to 2 games why not keep the 4 games and make it 7min qtrs.

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tendonitis is about the least worry some injury in the league. rest will make it fine, if not it wont hamper his play. this guy was a warrior for us in 05 so dont worry about these little gay injuries, they are nothing. i had tendonitis in my knees twice and all i can tell you is that i could do anything once a freaking week at the best of my ability, back to back days could be tough but could do it if i wanted to.

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Please get better Portis we rushed you back to soon last year I hope we don't this year.