Brunell to Birds?
 

I know this has been discussed before, but given the fact that D.J. Shockley, the Falcon's potential backup QB went down last weekend with a season ending injury, maybe there might be a legitimate interest now to jettison Brunell. Is this worth yet another thread?

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No way this happens. Our backup QB situation is shaky enough as it is.

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Did we just forget the Falcons have Casey "Baby Favre" Bramlet?!

Also, rumors of them trading for Holcomb or Chris Simms are still going strong

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Hmm... maybe.

We certainly have a better feel for Todd Collins than we did last year. Collins in preseason last year was merely OK against 3rd stringers (78.8 QB rating), and he's been much better this year (115.3) against better competition. The strength of Brunell has been the idea of his mentoring of Campbell this year. Is a mentor worth, say, a 3rd round pick? Do the Falcons think Brunell is worth that?

There are loud and justifiable voices who want to dump Brunell. I don't necessarily agree with them, but if there is something of value in return, then consider the offer.

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I would be shocked. Given our lack of experience in JC and Collins, and JGs love of Brunnell, I just don't see it. Plus, any new QB would have to learn Saunders playbook on the fly. I don't see it.

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I say trade him. If we can get a pack of bubble gum then let him go. Brunnel is done. He went 5-12 with a pick against 3rd and fouth stringers Sat. Night. He's done and he got old really fast.

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Not happenin!

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If Collins plays against the Ravens first teamers next Saturday night and does well I could see this deal happening. We would have Collins to backup Campbell so we wouldn't have to worry there, and then Palmer would probably be 3rd string. The Falcons might be willing to give a good price for him too, because Bill Musgrave is the quarterbacks coach down there and he was the quarterbacks coach for the Redskins in 2005 when Brunell had his last good season.

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Brunell is the most rediculous garbage QB Left in the NFL He will never amount to anything then he has 8 years ago to the Jags.We should pick up Simeon Rice or Tank Johnson

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If we can get something for Brunell then I say do it because right now he is on track to become the highest paid 3rd string QB in the NFL.

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[QUOTE=redskins21x;341887]Brunell is the most rediculous garbage QB Left in the NFL He will never amount to anything then he has 8 years ago to the Jags.We should pick up Simeon Rice or Tank Johnson[/QUOTE]

I swear to God I will ban you. I will ban you back to the Stone Age. Not for your opinions - though they are foolish - but for misspelling "ridiculous".
[LIST][*]If Brunell amounts to what he was eight years ago with the Jags, then we will be in the Championship game with a 14-2 record.[*]Simeon Rice has failed every physical he's taken this year except the one with the Giants - who only passed Simeon to piss off Strahan.[*]Tank Johnson has only played in a Cover 2, and will be on our roster for eight games he can't play if we sign him. [u]That's[/u] a bad FO decision.[/LIST]
No one wants to see Brunell starting now - he isn't our first round draft pick, he isn't our leader. Being this angry about it is like being angry about the third string Tight End - except the third string Tight End might actually have to [u]do[/u] something on special teams. Brunell will just sit on the sideline with his rediculously perfect hairline.

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Brunell does have himself a rediculously swanky head of hair... that bastard.

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[quote=redskins21x;341887]Brunell is the most rediculous garbage QB Left in the NFL He will never amount to anything then he has 8 years ago to the Jags.We should pick up Simeon Rice or Tank Johnson[/quote]

Yeah, they'd be great backup QBs.


This thread is STUPID.

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It's nice to see Gibbs giving the kid some experience, we would all hate to see Palmer show some potential, imagine if Gibbs had to make a choice for the third string back up, no, let's just hand it to Brunell.

We need to see Brunell in the pre season like we need a hole in our heads, Gibbs continues to think that some how some way Brunell will find his way to the field [with Gibbs unmitigated devotion to making that happen] and led us to the promised land.

Give Palmer the much needed experience NOW!

Can't wait to see Brunell in a regular season game, because we all know one way or another it's going to happen!

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As the #4 I assume Palmer isn't getting many meaningful snaps in practice. I think it's a little unrealistic to expect him to be playing.

Like it or not you still have get your #2 and #3 QBs ready to play.

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I thought Brunell's arm look fine against the Stealer's and the int. was the WR's fault as the pass hit him in the face. I thought if anything he was throwing the ball too hard. No I'm not looking for him to start but there is no way we can let him go.

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while I'm not opposed to trading Brunell, there cant possibly be any market for a 30 something qback, who is on his last legs. with that being said, he knows our system, and is an adequate back up

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Two points:

1. Why would the Falcons want Brunell? I guess Musgrave is still there, but their emphasis will be on youth. I don't think they have any interest in an old-timer at this point.

2. Collins has some nice numbers, but (and I will probably say this one hundred times in the next three weeks) his arm is absurdly weak. If he were in a situation where he had to get the ball downfield, he will either humiliate himself in front of millions of people or eat the ball, probably the latter. He is still the same check down artist we grew to hate last pre-season. I suspect that Brunell will wind up with the number 2 job. Not that it's any skin off my nose. I don't have a dog in this fight. (whoops)

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I don't think we can afford it. The cap hit would hurt I imagine at this point.

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Campbell, Collins & Palmer should be our QB's

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W00t! Another how-to-get-rid-of-Brunell thread!

I mean, I think the guy's past his prime and we need to eventually look elsewhere for a backup. (Cause I don't particularly like him as a QB anymore) But common knowledge is Brunell isn't going anywhere (at least not this season) and haters will continue to seeth and the supporters will continue to seeth about the haters.

Poor Mods. You guys must be shaking your heads at these Brunell threads right about now.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;341983]W00t! [B]Another how-to-get-rid-of-Brunell thread! [/B]

I mean, I think the guy's past his prime and we need to eventually look elsewhere for a backup. (Cause I don't particularly like him as a QB anymore) But common knowledge is Brunell isn't going anywhere (at least not this season) and haters will continue to seeth and the supporters will continue to seeth about the haters.

Poor Mods. You guys must be shaking your heads at these Brunell threads right about now.[/QUOTE]

This was never intended to be an anti-Brunell thread. Simply an opportunity to respond to a recent published report of an alleged trade interest. In fact, I believe Brunell would benefit us as a backup, and [I][U]only[/U][/I] in a backup role. Jeeze, did you see the heat on a couple of his passes last Saturday night? Yep, some weren't accurate, etc., etc. But, he could still contribute.

P.S. Have you noticed that even the "Poor Mods" have responded with comments to the thread? I know this subject has been discussed at length before, but it has resurfaced due to an injury to a Falcon's backup QB and thus rekindled the discussion.

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I can't believe no one has said anything about giving us a LG in return!

Brunell is too valuable as a backup. We would trade him if we got something major in return, .e.g. a starting LG or DE.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;341966]Two points:

1. Why would the Falcons want Brunell? I guess Musgrave is still there, but their emphasis will be on youth. I don't think they have any interest in an old-timer at this point.[/QUOTE]

The speculation is that Petrino - who was offensive coordinator during Brunell's years in Jacksonville - would want someone who can pick up his system in a hurry. He also isn't necessarily looking for a longterm answer, since Brian Brohm will be coming out next year.

[QUOTE]2. Collins has some nice numbers, but (and I will probably say this one hundred times in the next three weeks) his arm is absurdly weak. If he were in a situation where he had to get the ball downfield, he will either humiliate himself in front of millions of people or eat the ball, probably the latter. He is still the same check down artist we grew to hate last pre-season. I suspect that Brunell will wind up with the number 2 job. Not that it's any skin off my nose. I don't have a dog in this fight. (whoops)[/QUOTE]

If your allegation is that somone can throw [i]more[/i] checkdowns than Brunell, I call shenanigans.

Again, I hope that, barring a beneficial trade, Mark Brunell wears #8 all year for us. I also hope he never has to launder his jersey.

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[quote=BrudLee;342021]The speculation is that Petrino - who was offensive coordinator during Brunell's years in Jacksonville - would want someone who can pick up his system in a hurry. He also isn't necessarily looking for a longterm answer, since Brian Brohm will be coming out next year. If your allegation is that somone can throw [I]more[/I] checkdowns than Brunell, I call shenanigans.

Again, I hope that, barring a beneficial trade, Mark Brunell wears #8 all year for us. I also hope he never has to launder his jersey[/quote]

Yeah, I just caught the link at PFT. I would note that it says the Falcons are talking to the Redskins, not the other way round


I stand by my post. I think Collins could easily throw as many checkdowns as M.B. Remember he is an expert in the offense, so he knows every swing pass, safety valve, and flair control like the back of his hand. Again I don't have a dog in this fight. (why hasn't this expression been purged from the language? I think it's awful) I just want people to be aware of what they are buying into.

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I just heard Clayton and Mort speculate and neither mentioned Brunell. Mort said the Falcons will likely be looking for depth, not a starter. Unless someone like Simms becomes available, but again no mention of Brunell at all.

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This is not worth a discussion. Not going to happen. Gibbs won't let it happen.

If I were the Falcons, I would be angling for Todd Collins. He's worth a draft choice. Brunell is not.

[I]THAT's[/I] worth a discussion (and I am not advocating that).

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I would trade Touchdown Jesus for a half empty bottle of Milwaukee's Best Ice and feel guilty for taking advantage of them.

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Why do you have to keep mocking his faith?

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[quote=dmek25;341962]while I'm not opposed to trading Brunell, there cant possibly be any market for a 30 something qback, who is on his last legs. with that being said, he knows our system, and is an adequate back up[/quote]

You think so huh....? I beleive they said the same thing about Vinny T about TEN years ago, I think he just got picked up again by the Pats....whats he 43/44..? DIRT?

Mark knows, understands our system & can be a good backup when called upon. He's not going anywhere. Nor should he.

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[quote=Mattyk72;341943]As the #4 I assume Palmer isn't getting many meaningful snaps in practice. I think it's a little unrealistic to expect him to be playing.

Like it or not you still have get your #2 and #3 QBs ready to play.[/quote]
Brunell, and Collins have been in the leauge long enough to be ready for the regular season wether they get in or not. Does it really hurt to get Palmer in the last 5 mins of the game to see what this kid can do in a game situation, are those 5 mins really going to effect our backup QB's, who each have over 15 years experience as an NFL QB, from being ready for the regular season?

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[quote=SmootSmack;342103]Why do you have to keep mocking his faith?[/quote]

It isn't mocking his faith. Touchdown Jesus is a symbol at Notre Dame. If you have a problem with it, talk to them.

There is nothing blasphemous about calling Brunell Touchdown Jesus, in fact many people including myself, find it amusing. Find something else to bitch at me about.

As I mentioned before, I am a Christian and there is no negativity towards [I]my[/I] faith in the nickname.

Are you really this touchy? You need a few two-a-days.

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;342112]It isn't mocking his faith. Touchdown Jesus is a symbol at Notre Dame. If you have a problem with it, talk to them.

There is nothing blasphemous about calling Brunell Touchdown Jesus, in fact many people including myself, find it amusing. Find something else to bitch at me about.

As I mentioned before, I am a Christian and there is no negativity towards [I]my[/I] faith in the nickname.

Are you really this touchy? You need a few two-a-days.[/QUOTE]

Fine. Whatever. Moving on

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If we can get a first day pick for Brunell, then this is a no brainer.

If we can't then it's just not worth it.

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i say keep him, you never know what could happen, he knows the playbook and im still not comfortable with collins and probably never will be.

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Brunell should be traded if Collins is doing good now ,maybe guys like Texans would use a nice back up or any team that needs a back up

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[QUOTE=RMSkins;342110]Brunell, and Collins have been in the leauge long enough to be ready for the regular season wether they get in or not. Does it really hurt to get Palmer in the last 5 mins of the game to see what this kid can do in a game situation, are those 5 mins really going to effect our backup QB's, who each have over 15 years experience as an NFL QB, from being ready for the regular season?[/QUOTE]

I mean seriously why did we draft a QB ?.I say trade Brunell we didn't was a pick on Palmer for nothing , and also we have collins doing good now and trading for a first day pick can help us.

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i say trade collins, keep brunell. brunell might be able to pull 1-2 games out of his ass if needed, i dont see forsee collins making any impact at all if called upon.

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I think we need to have a young quarterback to develop. Putting Palmer on the practice squad exposes him to other teams. It would be better, I think, to make him the number three quarterback and give him the focus and attention needed to get him ready to step in if he has to.

Mark Brunell could really make a difference to the quarterback strapped Falcons and I would think that would be of interest to Mark to be in that situation. Here all he gets is the ridiculous, unwarranted, pitiful antipathy of fans looking for a scapegoat. He deserves far better. His arm strength is less than it was and though I think he is still a capable player, who has made for some special memories for any true Redskin fans, the sea tide has shifted here in DC and I think it would help him to move on.

Todd Collins on the other hand has been working in this system for years on end, and is a very capable backup. He deserves a shot to be the number two quarterback, and I think at this point he is the second best quarterback on the roster for a team using the Saunders system.

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Brunell will not go anywhere this season.

And when he makes the Superbowl appearance you'll be happy too!

People had written off Doug Williams before he won Superbowl MVP!!!