Harrington is looking great in Cincy game...
 

I know it's preseason, and I never watch preseason (I should now say rarely), but man he is looking very good. Could this possibly be a good thing for the Falcons?

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He's looking pretty good...but damn, if Roddy White keeps dropping those easy passes

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[quote=SmootSmack;344338]He's looking pretty good...but damn, if Roddy White keeps dropping those easy passes[/quote]


Slippery hands seem to be desireable trait among Atlanta receivers. I wonder if the Falcons use some sort of oil-based hand soap in their players locker rooms?

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;344338]He's looking pretty good...but damn, if Roddy White keeps dropping those easy passes[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that last one was placed perfectly in his basket and still dropped it. That was an easy TD!

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He has been looking good, but all I heard before I finally had to turn it off was:
[I]"Vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick..."[/I]

They completely ignored that great Norwood TD because Mort wouldn't shut his yapper about Vick. I understand that it is a game in ATL and all but enough is enough. Talk about the damn game or the games this past weekend!

I blame SmootSmack!

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it is the bengals defense too.

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;344351]He has been looking good, but all I heard before I finally had to turn it off was:
[I]"Vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick...vick..."[/I]

They completely ignored that great Norwood TD because Mort wouldn't shut his yapper about Vick. I understand that it is a game in ATL and all but enough is enough. Talk about the damn game or the games this past weekend!

I blame SmootSmack![/QUOTE]

Aren't you the pot calling the kettle black. You just did the same thing you are complaining about.

If Harrington plays like he did tonight during the season, how many wins do you think the Falcons can push out?

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[quote=jsarno;344355]Aren't you the pot calling the kettle black. You just did the same thing you are complaining about.

If Harrington plays like he did tonight during the season, how many wins do you think the Falcons can push out?[/quote]

Looking at their schedule, I'd say 4-5 wins, maybe 6 if Tampa and Carolina suck really bad.

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chris henry is a talent, if only he could stay outta trouble

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Joey will throw a ton of picks in the regular season. He will revert to his Lions form soon enough. He is a good backup, but not much more. ALthough most ex Lions thrive once they are away from Detroit, so who knows. I do wish him the best though. He got screwed along the same lines as Patrick did. Got thrown into the firestorm as a rookie with a crappy team.

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[QUOTE=dall-assblows;344362]chris henry is a talent, if only he could stay outta trouble[/QUOTE]

It's kind of weird that he gets to play in the preseason games and practice with the team, and he's about to sit out for 8 weeks.

Why is he allowed to play now at all?

By the way, nice play just now by former Skin Nic Clemons

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Casey Bramlet's in the game!

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Joey Harrington will force teams to respect the passing game more than Vick could. This could be good for the Falcons. If they can keep a decent running game going, Harrington will be ok for them. I think they will do better than they would have with Vick honestly. It is probably a blessing in disguise that Vick won't be there this year.

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Harrington definately looked good tonight. The guy unquestionably has talent, but he is inconsistent and doesn't make the best of decisions. Give him time.

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;344371]Joey will throw a ton of picks in the regular season. He will revert to his Lions form soon enough. He is a good backup, but not much more. ALthough most ex Lions thrive once they are away from Detroit, so who knows. I do wish him the best though. He got screwed along the same lines as Patrick did. Got thrown into the firestorm as a rookie with a crappy team.[/QUOTE]

I think Harrington could be good, he was amazing in college (not that college translates to pro) but he just didn't have anything going for him in Detroit, so hopefully he can perform well.

Dude...the comparison between Ramsey and Harrington is laughable. Ramsey wasn't that talented, and did nothing special at Tulane. Harrington came in with amazing talent out of Oregon. Also, Ramsey was the 3rd stringer to start the season (something Harrington never had the luxury of) and was not "thrown in" as you suggest. He didn't even play until week 5, then played only 3 games (week 5, 6, and 7). From weeks 8-13 he had 2 attempts (if I recall, both were half time prayers), then he played weeks 14-17. So how does playing in less than half the season (7 games) actually compare with Harrington actually playing right off the bat????

Ramsey sucked, always will, get over it already.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;344376]Joey Harrington will force teams to respect the passing game more than Vick could. This could be good for the Falcons. If they can keep a decent running game going, Harrington will be ok for them. I think they will do better than they would have with Vick honestly. It is probably a blessing in disguise that Vick won't be there this year.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you on that!

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This is how Harrington rolls. He'll look good at times but turn around and throw 4 picks the next game.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;344385]This is how Harrington rolls. He'll look good at times but turn around and throw 4 picks the next game.[/QUOTE]

Good point.
Maybe he can string together some good games though...he obviously has the potential.

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Did Lemar Marshall get in the game at all?

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[QUOTE=RMSkins;344433]Did Lemar Marshall get in the game at all?[/QUOTE]

Yes, I think he was #52.

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[quote=SmootSmack;344373]It's kind of weird that he gets to play in the preseason games and practice with the team, and he's about to sit out for 8 weeks.

Why is he allowed to play now at all?

By the way, nice play just now by former Skin [B]Nic Clemons[/B][/quote]

he sure beefed up.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;344437]Yes, I think he was #52.[/quote]
How did he do?

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[quote=jsarno;344393]Good point.
Maybe he can string together some good games though...he obviously has the potential.[/quote]
If he hasn't gotten good by now, it's not going to happen for him. He's too inaccurate and he makes bad decisions.

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[QUOTE=steveo395;344575]If he hasn't gotten good by now, it's not going to happen for him. He's too inaccurate and he makes bad decisions.[/QUOTE]

100% disagree. Sometimes a change of atmosphere and coaches helps a lot! Look at Steve Young, he was downright awful for 4 straight years (85-88) where he had right around 53% completion and only 24 tds, coupled with 24ints. He wasn't given the full riens til 91 or 92. (7-8 years later)
This will be Harrington's 6th year. Also, for the first time in his career, he hasn't needed to be "THE MAN", he actually has a running game in Atlanta to fall back on if need be.
Just in case you missed it, Harrington has gotten better with comp % which is usually an indictation of a QB getting better:
02- 50.1%
03- 55.8%
04- 56.0%
05- 57.0%
06- 57.5%
Now, I'm not saying that he's going to be Steve Young (IMO the best QB ever) what I am saying is there has been people that have done it, it's not too late.
Also, it basically took Rich Gannon 10 years before he was good...everyone passed on him too...oh yeah, like the Skins!

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Rich Gannon got good way to late in his career to really make a big splash, with the exception of his Super Bowl year. Didn't he break his neck or something?

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[QUOTE=Cowell;344664]Rich Gannon got good way to late in his career to really make a big splash, with the exception of his Super Bowl year. Didn't he break his neck or something?[/QUOTE]

I don't recall him breaking his neck.

Just wait until GTripp gets a hold of this thread. If you thought he was a Brady Quinn fan just wait until he gets started on Gannon!

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LOL, joey harrington, yea in pre-season, hall of fame here we come.......

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[quote=Cowell;344664]Rich Gannon got good way to late in his career to really make a big splash, with the exception of his Super Bowl year. Didn't he break his neck or something?[/quote]

Yeah it was a broken vertabre in his neck.

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[QUOTE=Cowell;344664]Rich Gannon got good way to late in his career to really make a big splash, with the exception of his Super Bowl year. Didn't he break his neck or something?[/QUOTE]

Yes, but not a serious enough injury to paralyze him, just enough to keep him out of football in danger it could get worsen. Has nothing to do with his early career, just why he retired.

About the got good late in his career thing...that's the point. Harrington still could have something left to show us.

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I definately think that guys can revive their careers with a change of scenery and experience. I just don't see Harrington as one of those guys. I've followed him long enough (I live in NFC North country) to say with a high degree of certainty that the guy is unlikely to be a success story in the NFL.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;344989]I definately think that guys can revive their careers with a change of scenery and experience. I just don't see Harrington as one of those guys. I've followed him long enough (I live in NFC North country) to say with a high degree of certainty that the guy is unlikely to be a success story in the NFL.[/QUOTE]

I think this season will show me. It's hard for me to make an accurate assessment of him when he played being a piss poor line and had a poor running game. Now he has a system that is at worst average.

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I'm thinking Harrington does well in ATL. While I'm not normally on the "His teams have all sucked", bandwagon. I think Detroit really sucked, and Miami was no dynasty.

I'm curious as to what Miami thought of him, I've been recently conversing a little on one of the Miami boards and I'll report back with some of there thoughts.

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;345005]I'm thinking Harrington does well in ATL. While I'm not normally on the "His teams have all sucked", bandwagon. I think Detroit really sucked, and Miami was no dynasty.

I'm curious as to what Miami thought of him, I've been recently conversing a little on one of the Miami boards and I'll report back with some of there thoughts.[/QUOTE]

But if you recall, Miami was not his team, it was Culpepper's, and Harrington was always in danger of losing the job. Now the Falcons are his team, there is no one behind him worthy of replacing him either. He might be more relaxed now than he ever was, even though he is replacing a perceived qb god in Vick.

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[quote=jsarno;345006]But if you recall, Miami was not his team, it was Culpepper's, and Harrington was always in danger of losing the job. Now the Falcons are his team, there is no one behind him worthy of replacing him either. He might be more relaxed now than he ever was, even though he is replacing a perceived qb god in Vick.[/quote]
Meh...if your going to succeed in the NFL, you've got to deal with pressures all around you. If you cant because your afraid you'll do bad... well duh that's the NFL. I don't think that coming in as known starter has many benefits, except for the fact that he's getting all the reps in practice.

I guess he'll be more confident, but I think it more has to do with what his teammates think of him. In this case, I think you may have a point there.

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;345008]Meh...if your going to succeed in the NFL, you've got to deal with pressures all around you. If you cant because your afraid you'll do bad... well duh that's the NFL. I don't think that coming in as known starter has many benefits, except for the fact that he's getting all the reps in practice.

I guess he'll be more confident, but I think it more has to do with what his teammates think of him. In this case, I think you may have a point there.[/QUOTE]

Just an FYI, Yahoo has predicted him to get around 3500 yards and 24 tds with around 17 ints.
To me, that makes him a very good sleeper, and I am not sure he will do that well.

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[quote=SmootSmack;344671]I don't recall him breaking his neck.

Just wait until GTripp gets a hold of this thread. If you thought he was a Brady Quinn fan just wait until he gets started on Gannon![/quote]I...can't get involved!

I mean I was going to and all, but now that you've set the enthusiasm bar so high, I'm just not feeling up to it.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;345010]Just an FYI, Yahoo has predicted him to get around 3500 yards and 24 tds with around 17 ints.
To me, that makes him a very good sleeper, and I am not sure he will do that well.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Jsarno! My fantasy league draft is tommorrow eve!

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[QUOTE=jsarno;345010]Just an FYI, Yahoo has predicted him to get around 3500 yards and 24 tds with around 17 ints.
To me, that makes him a very good sleeper, and I am not sure he will do that well.[/QUOTE]

If Harrington throws for 3,500 yards and 24tds, I will be nothing short of amazed. Only 8 QBs threw for more than 3,500 yards last season, and those QBs are: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Marc Bulger, Jon Kitna, Carson Palmer, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, and Ben Roethlisberger. Only Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees threw for more than 24 TDs and 3,500 yards.

I cannot see Joey Harrington have as good of a season as Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees had last year, particularly in Atlanta's run-first offense. They've got some good RBs in Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood and, aside from aging Joe Horn, no solid wideouts. Finally, their O-line is still suspect. Wayne Gandy was getting abused at LT by Justin Smith.

Assuming Harrington isn't injured or benched, I see him throwing for 2,900 yards, 17 TDs, and 16 INTs.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;345032]If Harrington throws for 3,500 yards and 24tds, I will be nothing short of amazed. Only 8 QBs threw for more than 3,500 yards last season, and those QBs are: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Marc Bulger, Jon Kitna, Carson Palmer, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, and Ben Roethlisberger. Only Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees threw for more than 24 TDs and 3,500 yards.

I cannot see Joey Harrington have as good of a season as Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees had last year, particularly in Atlanta's run-first offense. They've got some good RBs in Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood and, aside from aging Joe Horn, no solid wideouts. Finally, their O-line is still suspect. [B]Wayne Gandy was getting abused at LT by Justin Smith.
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Assuming Harrington isn't injured or benched, I see him throwing for 2,900 yards, 17 TDs, and 16 INTs.[/QUOTE]

That's cause Justin Smith is the man!!! (that's for you dmek :) )

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;345032]If Harrington throws for 3,500 yards and 24tds, I will be nothing short of amazed. Only 8 QBs threw for more than 3,500 yards last season, and those QBs are: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Marc Bulger, Jon Kitna, Carson Palmer, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, and Ben Roethlisberger. Only Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees threw for more than 24 TDs and 3,500 yards.

I cannot see Joey Harrington have as good of a season as Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees had last year, particularly in Atlanta's run-first offense. They've got some good RBs in Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood and, aside from aging Joe Horn, no solid wideouts. Finally, their O-line is still suspect. Wayne Gandy was getting abused at LT by Justin Smith.

Assuming Harrington isn't injured or benched, I see him throwing for 2,900 yards, 17 TDs, and 16 INTs.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you on that, especially considering this is Harrington's first season in this system.