Portis Says This Year Could Be Last With Skins.
 

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Talks about injury bug and how if he doesn't stay healthy this year he could be moved... Not the biggest of news but I thought it was a little strange to come out and say that. Maybe he's just trying to motivate himself?

I thought this whole tendinitis thing was just b.s. to keep him out of the preseason a la Ladanian Tomlinson?

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Yeah, sometimes I hate how loose at the mouth Portis is. People always worry about his comments.

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I'm glad you said it, TMC. I don't take this as him not wanting to be a Skin or really concerned about him losing his job.

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I wish we had Champ and a draft pick back.

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[quote=mredskins;344794]I wish we had Champ and a draft pick back.[/quote]

I don't. What has Champ won with Denver? Don't get me wrong, Champ is arguably the best CB in the game, but I like the way our secondary looks this year. I doubt we could afford Taylor, Landry and Champ back there.

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Yea I agree TMC, I wish he would just shutup and let his actions speak for themselves!

With that said, I would agree IF he doesn't have a come back year, that I hope he does. I would think he's outta DC!

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[quote=12thMan;344795]I don't. What has Champ won with Denver? Don't get me wrong, Champ is arguably the best CB in the game, but I like the way our secondary looks this year. I doubt we could afford Taylor, Landry and Champ back there.[/quote]


Oh yeah I forgot about the SB trophey Portis won for us. My bad!

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CP is correct in stating that this could be his last season as a Redskin if he can't remain healthy. It just sucks if this becomes reality because we gave up a probable Hall of Fame corner for him (Champ Bailey). While I agree that he has been granted a pass this pre-season in fear of another injury, I'll never forget his efforts in 2005 and I truly believe when the whistle blows in regular season, he will bring it. He was rock solid year before last and he appeared to be well on his way to being something very special. On game day, he gave a 100%. Hell, even the pre-season game last year when he got hurt he was not going to back down from tackling the defender that was making his way down the field after our turnover. Even then he was motivated...in a freakin' pre-season game. Let's all hope CP makes a successful recovery this year and if for nothing else, we can have a few laughs if he returns to his "costume" laden press conferences.

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[quote=mredskins;344797]Oh yeah I forgot about the SB trophey Portis won for us. My bad![/quote]

I forgive you.

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I just think that a week or two before the season, if you're saying "this might be my last year" it kind of leaves it open to debate as far as where your head is at. Especially when no one else has suggested anything of this nature. I like the personality he brings to the team but sometimes you have to think before you speak.

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This is eerily similar to when Gibbs says "If I don't start winning, they might send me back to NASCAR <<high pitched nervous laugh>>"

All CP has to do is play like he's shown he can and all will be fine

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Yeah, I agree. I just hate that he always says something to worry everyone. :doh:

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CP tends to think out loud, yet it seems everyone hangs on his words and takes them way too seriously.

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His comments are motivation for him to have a good year. He knows how injuries can affect how people look at you(aka David Patten), but he is secure with the org. because he proved his toughness last year. This is just his way to put pressure on himself to perform.
Portis over fumbling Betts anyday!!!

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I think this comment is closer to what he actually feels than most of the things he says, and I'd have to say that I agree. That's the way the front office does business in Washington. As soon as a player shows the slightest hint of having lost a step, he's expendable. Face of the team or not.

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[quote=SmootSmack;344802]This is eerily similar to when Gibbs says "If I don't start winning, they might send me back to NASCAR <<high pitched nervous laugh>>"

All CP has to do is play like he's shown he can and all will be fine[/quote]

I think what Joe really meant is.....if these guys make me look bad again this year.....I've had enough of this new NFL crap!

I'm OUTTA HERE!

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I love CP, and I think he is an elite RB. However, I would not be disappointed if we traded him for some 1st day picks. With the exception of our secondary, we are old at every position. We need youth desperately, and this is one possibility that could help. If we could get a 2nd and a 3rd, then we'd have our 1st, two 2nds, and two 3rds. If we did it right we could get 5 starting-quality young players for relatively cheap. I would be pleased if this happened.

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CP speaks what he is thinking w/o worry for what others may infer from those comments. He's right, though, if he doesn't perform or can't stay healthy the Skins should get rid of him.

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Yeah, I agree I don't think we need to be overpaying 2 running backs. Before we release him though I think we should secure another decent running back.

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I think all CP is saying is that if you are not healthy a team is not going to keep you around very long. Especially when you have good depth at that position, aka Betts. Really a non-story.

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Portis is only pointing out the reality of being an NFL player. I don't understand why people are misrepresenting his statement. He simply said "If I don't do my job I'll probably be out of here." Truer words have never been spoken.

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I don't want to think about CP unable to go. However, if he cannot, how big is the Bett's contract extension?

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[QUOTE=saden1;344819]Portis is only pointing out the reality of being an NFL player. I don't understand why people are misrepresenting his statement. He simply said "If I don't do my job I'll probably be out of here." Truer word have never been spoken.[/QUOTE]

My thoughts exactly.

Oh and BTW, don't bother reviewing the Portis-Bailey trade since Bailey wasn't sticking around D.C. anyways and we've talked about that trade ad nauseum.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;344823]Oh and BTW, don't bother reviewing the Portis-Bailey trade since Bailey wasn't sticking around D.C. anyways and we've talked about that trade ad nauseum.[/quote]

Seriously. I don't understand why everyone thinks Champ would still be a Redskin if the trade never happened.

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Technically the Skins could have put the franchise tag on Champ hence the trade.

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Champ was not going to be here no matter what.

End of story.

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[quote=mredskins;344794]I wish we had Champ and a draft pick back.[/quote]
didn't we go over this, and over this, and over this? Bailey did not want to play here. and Portis speaks the truth about him and injuries. he had better get healthy, because no one can help their team from the trainers table. and that makes them expendable

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[quote=Southpaw;344807]I think this comment is closer to what he actually feels than most of the things he says, and I'd have to say that I agree. That's the way the front office does business in Washington. As soon as a player shows the slightest hint of having lost a step, he's expendable. Face of the team or not.[/quote]

Yeah I really don't understand what the F people are just talking shit for. And the title for this thread is very misleading, he never says he wants to leave, he is just pointing out how our front office works and also on how many people now question his abilities.

He is worried for his job, not trying to leave DC. Way to overhype stuff on the Warpath once again people...

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All the Chicken Littles around here...you'd think the sky was actually falling. C-Po knows how to play the game, and knows that there is a capable 1000 yard back waiting in the wings. End of story.

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[QUOTE=hooskins;344830]Yeah I really don't understand what the F people are just talking shit for. And the title for this thread is very misleading, he never says he wants to leave, he is just pointing out how our front office works and also on how many people now question his abilities.

He is worried for his job, not trying to leave DC. Way to overhype stuff on the Warpath once again people...[/QUOTE]


The title was pulled directly off of SI.com and I tried to clarify in the first post that this wasn't that big of a deal. I could have used "Portis says this could be his last year with the skins if he doesn't perform as well as he is expected to due to injury or simple physical degradation" but I wasn't sure it would fit...

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What I thought was more interesting was all the talk of how key practice seems to be (not to mention how CP says "Hopefully...I don't have to play Thursday.")

[QUOTE=Clinton Portis]I went out to see what I could do, and I basically participated in everything. There weren't any short cuts or ifs, ands or buts about it. I did what they asked me. ... Hopefully I showed them enough in practice where I don't have to play on Thursday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jason Campbell]The most important thing is participating in practice because that's when we're running our full offense and I don't want to fall behind."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Marcus Washington]Coach Gibbs always judges things by what he sees in practice.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;344838]The title was pulled directly off of SI.com and I tried to clarify in the first post that this wasn't that big of a deal. I could have used "Portis says this could be his last year with the skins if he doesn't perform as well as he is expected to due to injury or simple physical degradation" but I wasn't sure it would fit...[/quote]

I guess I am not directing at you in particular, it is just frustrating everyone is taking normal quotes that anyone would say and blowing them out of proportion. No matter what Portis likes to do or doesn't whenever he is asked to do it he gives 100%. That is why he got injuried in preseason last year, he went all out to make a tackle. I am sick of people who question Portis because he speaks his mind and those same people get frustrated when other players give cliche answers to question. Portis is an honest player who gives it his all on the field, and that is all that matters.

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[quote=hooskins;344842]I guess I am not directing at you in particular, it is just frustrating everyone is taking normal quotes that anyone would say and blowing them out of proportion. No matter what Portis likes to do or doesn't whenever he is asked to do it he gives 100%. That is why he got injuried in preseason last year, he went all out to make a tackle. I am sick of people who question Portis because he speaks his mind and those same people get frustrated when other players give cliche answers to question. Portis is an honest player who gives it his all on the field, and that is all that matters.[/quote]
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the wording was to generate web hits, which it certainly has, both here and on SI.com.

I guess what hooskins is trying to get at is that when posting links of articles, try to lean less for the shock value and more for what the article is saying when choosing a title. This particular thread doesn't necessarily do it, but so many on the website are guilty of doing this.

If SI.com saw Portis sitting down outside the stadium before a game the title would read:

"Portis sits out week 1"

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[QUOTE=hooskins;344842]I guess I am not directing at you in particular, it is just frustrating everyone is taking normal quotes that anyone would say and blowing them out of proportion. No matter what Portis likes to do or doesn't whenever he is asked to do it he gives 100%. That is why he got injuried in preseason last year, he went all out to make a tackle. I am sick of people who question Portis because he speaks his mind and those same people get frustrated when other players give cliche answers to question. Portis is an honest player who gives it his all on the field, and that is all that matters.[/QUOTE]

No worries. I was just concerned with that exact issue when I posted the thread.

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So what's the difference between Portis and Iverson when it comes to practice?

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He's probably just bored from sitting around in the Preseason and wanted to watch the media and people like you run around in a frenzy. He's done it before...many times. :D

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Question: If I am not mistaken Portis is entering his 4th year in Washington, if he did leave, what are the cap implications? If his knees are still bothering him it will be a struggle to attempt a trade.

Additionally the front office surrendered a 2nd round pick in 2004 for him, in addition to Champ Bailey. And if he does leave what type or return does Washington get back from his four years?

Now my point is simply that a second round pick in 2004 would now most likely be a starter in the lineup. Granted Portis was only 22 when he was traded and no one could see this knee issue coming then, but the position he plays dictates that he is gonna take hits and his body will wear down a bit faster. So why surrender a pro-bowl corner and a 2nd round draft pick if you only end up getting 4 years of production?

Arguabley Champ is at the top of his game (10 INT's in 2007), and looks to be a secondary force for Denver for years to come.

If the money and the trade does not justify an investment return for just 4 years, then there is another issue all together.

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[quote=saden1;344847]So what's the difference between Portis and Iverson when it comes to practice?[/quote]

Haha, I don't know what?

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[quote=SmootSmack;344840]What I thought was more interesting was all the talk of how key practice seems to be (not to mention how CP says "Hopefully...I don't have to play Thursday.")[/quote]


I really just don't get it...?

"Hopefully...I don't have to play Thursday."

The last time I checked he is employed and being paid MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PLAY FOOTBALL for the Washington Redskins.

I don't think they wanted him to play the entire game just a few reps...?
So I guess I didn't catch the breaking news that portis is the new owner, vice president, head coach, asst. head coach, etc.

Just shut the hell up, suit up and do what your BEING PAID A FORTUNE to do like every other employee is doing, playing ball, NOT CRYING about being to good to play a few reps in pre-season!

Simple as that!

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[QUOTE=Southpaw;344807]I think this comment is closer to what he actually feels than most of the things he says, and I'd have to say that I agree. That's the way the front office does business in Washington. As soon as a player shows the slightest hint of having lost a step, he's expendable. Face of the team or not.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, he's not saying "I dont want to be here after the season"...he's saying "If I dont produce, they're going to get rid of me"....


Which is probaboly correct.