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I cant believe that they threw away draft choices for both Sartz and Palmer. I was so proud of them last year for Montgomery and Golston and they go and get us these two poor choices. By the way, who in the hell thought Boschetti was better than Wynn and the rest of the line men.

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blades is good and landry is AMAZING. hey you win some, you lose some

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Yeah I know, but they maximized every pick last year, but Lefotu. I gues we should be happy with Blades and Landry was a no brainer.

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When you only have 1 first round pick and lower end picks your draft is going to suck. Blades was a nice pickup the rest except for Landry were wastes. Why draft a qb who should be practice squad fodder. WE should have kept MB in case of a dire emergency, now we have a shitty rookie for 3rd strong qb.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;346297]When you only have 1 first round pick and lower end picks your draft is going to suck. Blades was a nice pickup the rest except for Landry were wastes. Why draft a qb who should be practice squad fodder. WE should have kept MB in case of a dire emergency, now we have a shitty rookie for 3rd strong qb.[/quote]

What are you talking about, a shitty rookie for #3 QB?

Last I checked we cut palmer..? Mark has gone nowhere!

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[quote=GusFrerotte;346297]When you only have 1 first round pick and lower end picks your draft is going to suck. Blades was a nice pickup the rest except for Landry were wastes. Why draft a qb who should be practice squad fodder. WE should have kept MB in case of a dire emergency, now we have a shitty rookie for 3rd strong qb.[/quote]

we didnt cut brunellll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is driving me crazy

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Arizona just cut their 3rd round pick Buster Davis. That's an example of a shitty draft, when you take a player in the 3rd round and he doesn't even make the final roster. We got Landry and Blades out of this draft and we don't know how Palmer is gonna turn out, maybe in a few seasons or so he could mature to the point where he could be a #2. So it wasn't an entirely wasted draft. If you want to look at an entirely wasted draft, go look at our 2003 draft.

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We got potentially 2 cornerstones for our defenses in the future in Landry and Blades. And Buster Davis was a good player in Florida State.

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If Landry and Blades are starters in the next couple years I regard this as a good draft considering we had no picks in 2-4.
the %s are never good for 6 & 7th rounders. I'm disappointed that Palmer couldn't make the practice squad, but he didn't do much to deserve it. We really need to groom a young backup to JC.

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Buster Davis might have been a great player at Florida State, but that doesn't equal being great in the NFL. I can name plenty of players that were good or great in college but didn't pan out in the NFL. I'm saying Arizona coaches can't be that good when it comes to drafting because they just used a 3rd round pick on a guy and he ended up getting cut after preseason. 3rd round picks are generally expected to not only make the team, but be reliable starters for years to come. We recently signed our 2004 3rd rounder to a big extension because he lived up to his draft status.

@FreddyG: Palmer might still make the practice squad, he's been cut and he meets the requirements, so we might see him end up there after noon tomorrow.

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I loved our draft. Laron Landry = I love it!

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[quote=freddyg12;346309]If Landry and Blades are starters in the next couple years I regard this as a good draft considering we had no picks in 2-4.
the %s are never good for 6 & 7th rounders. [B]I'm disappointed that Palmer couldn't make the practice squad[/B], but he didn't do much to deserve it. We really need to groom a young backup to JC.[/quote]

he'll make practice squad.

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On the other side of the coin we also got:

Lorenzo Alexander
Stephon Heyer
Marcus Mason
Leigh Torrence
Chris Wilson

I think the practice squad guys will be:

Trucks or Sinclair
Palmer
Buzbee
Westbrook
Hoag

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;346289]I cant believe that they threw away draft choices for both Sartz and Palmer. I was so proud of them last year for Montgomery and Golston and they go and get us these two poor choices. By the way, who in the hell thought Boschetti was better than Wynn and the rest of the line men.[/QUOTE]

Apparently we kept more second day draft choices than the brilliant NE Patriots. Admittedly, it is probably harder to crack their squad BUT for those griping that every pick isn't on the squad - apparently that happened on more than one or two teams this year.

• The Patriots apparently didn't like this draft. Only two choices -- safety Brandon Meriweather and defensive end Kareem Brown -- made the 53-man roster. The Patriots cut four second-day choices and placed two more on injured reserve; another was waived because of injury. From the start of camp, teams were hearing the Patriots weren't going to keep many of their second-day selections. For them, it's wait until next year.

Here is the whole article - according to Clayton, a lot of draft choices didn't make the cut.
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3001363]ESPN - Clayton: Cuts in all shapes and sizes - NFL[/url]

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[quote=T.O.Killa;346289]I cant believe that they threw away draft choices for both Sartz and Palmer. I was so proud of them last year for Montgomery and Golston and they go and get us these two poor choices. By the way, who in the hell thought Boschetti was better than Wynn and the rest of the line men.[/quote]

what are you smoking? those were low low round picks. no one shoots 100% on a draft, ever. we got blades and heyer as a UDFA and those are great values.

bosch sucks, but he's not 33 and making 4mill a year. not everything is just play on the field. price/performance is pretty important too. but bosch still sucks.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;346429]Apparently we kept more second day draft choices than the brilliant NE Patriots. Admittedly, it is probably harder to crack their squad BUT for those griping that every pick isn't on the squad - apparently that happened on more than one or two teams this year.

• The Patriots apparently didn't like this draft. Only two choices -- safety Brandon Meriweather and defensive end Kareem Brown -- made the 53-man roster. The Patriots cut four second-day choices and placed two more on injured reserve; another was waived because of injury. From the start of camp, teams were hearing the Patriots weren't going to keep many of their second-day selections. For them, it's wait until next year.

Here is the whole article - according to Clayton, a lot of draft choices didn't make the cut.
[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3001363"]ESPN - Clayton: Cuts in all shapes and sizes - NFL[/URL][/quote]

Nice post.

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We cut those guys because we have depth at LB and (yes, believe it or not) at QB. Plus, Startz is hurt and Palmer will be on the practice squad.

Not a bad draft, IMO.

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[quote=JWsleep;346486]We cut those guys because we have depth at LB and (yes, believe it or not) at QB. Plus, Startz is hurt and Palmer will be on the practice squad.

Not a bad draft, IMO.[/quote]


We had 2 guys from our entire draft make the team, Id call it a bad draft, especially after our front office had no picks rounds 2-4.

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[quote=paulskinsfan;346500]We had 2 guys from our entire draft make the team, Id call it a bad draft, especially after our front office had no picks rounds 2-4.[/quote]


What about undrafted players making the team?

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[quote=saden1;346509]What about undrafted players making the team?[/quote]


Well we can interpret that 2 ways, either our scouting did a kick ass job with UDFA OR, our team's backups were just that weak. Jury is still out on that one, but our draft was not good.

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But that being said, I do really really like HB Blades.

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we got future pro bowl in landry.......I dont care if others dont make it.........this is gibbs style get establish FA and get probowl players in the first round

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Daseal and I were talking on IM about the draft this morning and we cannot understand why people bitch and moan about draft picks not working out. Just as was mentioned above, no one shoots 100% in the draft and if you even have a 25% success rate in the later rounds, you should consider that a success.

Even the smarter of GMs and coaches can't find the starting talent in the sixth or seventh rounds.

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we had a good draft as long as landry shows up. blades and heyer are extra. UDFAs count as part of the draft class in my eyes, cause someone had to go out and find them.

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Well, if we say it was a good draft/FA class then the whole "we need a GM" and "Our FO stinks" arguments lose some of their weight - and we can't let that happen now can we??

The FO makes lots of mistakes but sometimes it gets things right. A star safety, a solid LB and a young LT with potential to start down the road. Damn fine group. Add to all that, Wilson and Mason for depth - and 2007 looks pretty nice for adding young players.

Considering some had doomed us before the draft, I think they did fine - not brilliant, not completely stupid either.

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So where are all those people that said Sartz should be starting this year and Palmer could be our #2?

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Wow - who was saying that??

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I cant remember anyone ever saying Sartz should start or Palmer will be #2.

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every year people seem to get caught up with crappy players... ie: start hasslebeck (tim not matt), espy should start, mccullough is a star running back (who?) etc etc.... there didn't seem to be much of that this year though, which is really nice.

of course, i've been out most of this offseason with various crap ;)

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I still think Espy has a future with the team. I'd love to see what he can do if he started a few games.

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I enjoyed the post regarding it being Gibbs' style to get proven FA's and then draft pro bowlers in the 1st round. How's that worked out for us so far in Gibbs' second go round. The only reason the Skins can draft those pro bowlers in the 1st round is because the proven FA's suck and we keep getting high draft picks. That being said, I have no problem with this draft, but it has been proven that the Skins' method of team building is not working.