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TheMalcolmConnection 09-03-2007 11:50 AM

2007 Little League Playbook
 
Alright, just wanted people's opinions on what other plays I should put in. I have a stud QB, three short, fast, but small running backs. I play power football only. What other plays should I put in?

[url]http://home.wlu.edu/~behartless/2007.pdf[/url]

BDBohnzie 09-04-2007 11:08 AM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
I know you've spoken about coaching Pee-wees before, but give us a little more background. Age group? Catching ability? How fast do these kids grasp? Is everyone eligible? Does your league allow for motion?

With a stud QB, you should be able to throw the ball a ton, especially with fast RBs. A little play action will certainly freeze the defense...especially if you pound the ball a lot.

jbcjr14 09-04-2007 12:12 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
If you like power football then a great set up play would be trips left with a single FB in the back field. Spread out the defense and then run the 42 BLAST at them. If they don't check out of 8,9 in the box, throw the ball to one of the three options on either side.

Monkeydad 09-04-2007 02:08 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
Fleaflicker. The other team's D will be tripping over each other. :D

That Guy 09-04-2007 07:30 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
reverses and roll outs. pulling guards. options. the kind of stuff that other pee-wees aren't prepared for.

RobH4413 09-04-2007 08:07 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
I always found the TE pop pass to be a pretty consistent play good for two point conversions and such.

Just hike, throw, catch. Can't get any more basic than that.

Warpath 09-04-2007 09:18 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
The single back play action pass to the TE works for me every time in Madden 08. Obviously with your power running game already established this play should work. You have the game I think so Im sure you know what Im talking about. Play action roll the QB out to the right and the TE should be running an up and out towards the sidelines. Throw it to the outside shoulder and he's good.

dall-assblows 09-04-2007 09:27 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
statue of liberty, hook and ladder

Gmanc711 09-04-2007 09:29 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
Fire Saudners! We need this guy running the offense!!

KLHJ2 09-04-2007 11:26 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;346640]Alright, just wanted people's opinions on what other plays I should put in. I have a stud QB, three short, fast, but small running backs. I play power football only. What other plays should I put in?

[URL]http://home.wlu.edu/~behartless/2007.pdf[/URL][/quote]

A QB sneak is MIA along with some more inside running plays. Kids that age have lots of energy, but still do tire quickly. If you keep them running outside all of the time then you will wear them out along with the defense.

If you have 3 quick runners then only keep 2 in the game and rotate all 3 in and out. For example each back will have 2 plays on, and 1 play off. This keeps your backs more fresh. The running back rotation also provides a means for getting the play into the QB so he doesn't have to trot to the sideline.

A few passing plays do not hurt either. Remember that most kids who play football on the sandlot or the back yard pass the majority of the time; give them a chance to show what they can do. I would put a quick passing game in there that is based on a quick 3 step drop and 3-5 yard patterns. Only 3-4 routes are necessary and your SE's and TE's can just mirror each other. It is as easy as 1-2-3-4 and does not require you to change your formation.

1. Out
2. Slant
3. Fade
4. Hitch

I can go on all day so just PM me if you are interested in anything else I have to say, or if you want to say "no thanks you are an idiot". Either way, I hope I have helped a little.

Edit. I didn't say anything about Play Action because it had already been addressed.

dall-assblows 09-04-2007 11:32 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
a go route. put the fastest kid at wide out and tell him to run as fast as he can for as far as he can and tell the qb to thow the ball to him.

booo yaaaaaaaaaa.

championship

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 09:35 AM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
Thanks for all the ideas guys.

I've been doing this a few years now and there's a few things I've realized about coaching little league football:

1) Playaction doesn't work on little kids. They're not looking for the ball normally, they're just blindly running through holes up the middle hoping the ball carrier goes through one of them.

2) They can't grasp positioning in blocking. Last year I had different blocking schemes and they got too confused. This year I simplified things with the Wishbone and just made them block straight on.

3) Passing plays are tough because kids at that age can't form a pocket or protect the QB for very long. Even with the QB we have, he can't run around in the backfield forever. We need a lot of short routes.

I coach kids 11-13, and we had our first practice in pads yesterday and all the leads worked as well as the end-around.

We ran the end-around a lot last year and it was a TD half the time. Misdirection DOES seem to work great in this league.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 09:36 AM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
[quote=jbcjr14;346881]If you like power football then a great set up play would be trips left with a single FB in the back field. Spread out the defense and then run the 42 BLAST at them. If they don't check out of 8,9 in the box, throw the ball to one of the three options on either side.[/quote]

I really like this idea as well. We haven't installed trips yet, but we do have a motion split left and split right.

jbcjr14 09-05-2007 10:21 AM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;347379]I really like this idea as well. We haven't installed trips yet, but we do have a motion split left and split right.[/quote]

This has helped me in my previous coaching adventures. Spread the field out a bit and if they don't check out of 8-9 in the box, throw a quick slant to a receiver. Next time they see the formation, they WILL check out and then you hit them with the power run up the gut for a big gainer.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 10:27 AM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
Only problem is that I'll REALLY be counting on our offense to get some push up front. The good news is, if the RB makes it to the second level, he's gone.

jbcjr14 09-05-2007 11:01 AM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
Well, if you run that formation and either run or throw out of it and then run the formation again and do the opposite it WILL work!!! Actually you can switch the trips to either side of the field to really mess them up! Run the middle WR in motion and end around em. There are tons of things off the formation that if the defense doesn't move you can beat them on.

GhettoDogAllStars 09-05-2007 11:24 AM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
My Dad coaches high school football in Florida. Even those high school kids can't execute a passing offense correctly. I say stick to traps, blasts, powers, and dives -- those are [I]always[/I] the most effective for my Dad's team.

You mentioned that your kids had trouble with complex blocking schemes, but if you could get just one of them to pull correctly, you could trap your way down to the goal line.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 01:37 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;347419]My Dad coaches high school football in Florida. Even those high school kids can't execute a passing offense correctly. I say stick to traps, blasts, powers, and dives -- those are [I]always[/I] the most effective for my Dad's team.

You mentioned that your kids had trouble with complex blocking schemes, but if you could get just one of them to pull correctly, you could trap your way down to the goal line.[/quote]

We DO have a trap I put in, in the middle of the season. Typically guards can grasp it and they LOVE doing it because they get to blow someone up.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 09-05-2007 02:03 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
I've always wanted to try to coach little league football..I think I could do it for kids a little bit younger than what you're coaching. Above that and they'd be beyond my knowledge base. I always picture myself wearing a full suit with a tie and hat and pounding a game program in my hand!!

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 02:18 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
I was the only coach to get thrown out of a game last year. :D

Monkeydad 09-05-2007 02:46 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
How about a draw play, but very delayed. Have the QB drop back and wait a few seconds. The D will think it's definitely a passing play, then hand the ball off to a back and hit the huge holes that should be there. Call 2 passing plays before this one to make them think you're airing it out.

I'm sure at that age, the defenders aren't going to be able to watch for the run while going back in pass coverage, to their minds, it's either pass or run and they'll make up their mind and commit to one...then you do the other. :)

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 03:06 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
[quote=Buster;347492]How about a draw play, but very delayed. Have the QB drop back and wait a few seconds. The D will think it's definitely a passing play, then hand the ball off to a back and hit the huge holes that should be there. Call 2 passing plays before this one to make them think you're airing it out.

I'm sure at that age, the defenders aren't going to be able to watch for the run while going back in pass coverage, to their minds, it's either pass or run and they'll make up their mind and commit to one...then you do the other. :)[/quote]

Only problem is, at this age, our offensive line can't handle pressure for that long. Most times we only have a limited amount of time to hold onto the ball before we have to throw it away or run it. :(

Monkeydad 09-05-2007 03:09 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
Darn. OK, plan B. Hire an ice cream truck to drive by. Use a clown in the 2nd half. Warn your kids about it and tell them that if they ignore it during the game, you'll buy them ice cream after the game.

Hopefully the other team's D will be distracted, if they even stay on the field. :D

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 03:11 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
My plan C was to make sure I shaved and then I was just going to suit up.

BEAST.

BDBohnzie 09-05-2007 03:39 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;347479]I was the only coach to get thrown out of a game last year. :D[/QUOTE]
This is a like admitting you are a hockey player who stabbed someone in the neck with their skate... :D

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 03:48 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
It was awesome. I was standing up for something I believe in.

I think kids are too impressionable these days and it's the TOs and general douchebags teaching kids that it's alright to be "all about some THEM".

If there is anything I make very clear to my kids is that I expect sportsmanship. I'll put one of my players and bench them the whole game if they talk any shit.

What I got thrown out for was the last game of the season. This other kid was running for a TD holding the ball back running JUST ahead of our guy kind of like, "You want this ball? You want this?!" and NO PENALTY was called. The kid did it for like twenty yards!

I went apeshit on the ref and got tossed.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 09-05-2007 04:11 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
hopefully the kid had decent enough parents to have a talk with him..but anymore, parents encourage that kind of behavior

Monkeydad 09-05-2007 04:11 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;347528]It was awesome. I was standing up for something I believe in.

I think kids are too impressionable these days and it's the TOs and general douchebags teaching kids that it's alright to be "all about some THEM".

If there is anything I make very clear to my kids is that I expect sportsmanship. I'll put one of my players and bench them the whole game if they talk any shit.

What I got thrown out for was the last game of the season. This other kid was running for a TD holding the ball back running JUST ahead of our guy kind of like, "You want this ball? You want this?!" and NO PENALTY was called. The kid did it for like twenty yards!

I went apeshit on the ref and got tossed.[/quote]


Is their an official rule against that kid's action? :D


Sure it's bad sportsmanship, but...who knows. Good job on getting tossed. You have to do it at least once. :)

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 04:14 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
[quote=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;347534]hopefully the kid had decent enough parents to have a talk with him..but anymore, parents encourage that kind of behavior[/quote]

If you could call me old school on that, then I guess I'm old school. If you want to celebrate with your teammates after a good play, that's fine, just don't do it at someone else's expense.

Schneed10 09-05-2007 04:19 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;347528]It was awesome. I was standing up for something I believe in.

I think kids are too impressionable these days and it's the TOs and general douchebags teaching kids that it's alright to be "all about some THEM".

If there is anything I make very clear to my kids is that I expect sportsmanship. I'll put one of my players and bench them the whole game if they talk any shit.

What I got thrown out for was the last game of the season. This other kid was running for a TD holding the ball back running JUST ahead of our guy kind of like, "You want this ball? You want this?!" and NO PENALTY was called. The kid did it for like twenty yards!

I went apeshit on the ref and got tossed.[/quote]

Nice. Any parent would support your antics in front of the ref in that circumstance.

I got an idea. Annexation of Peurto Rico.

But seriously, same play as your 24 Lead, except the QB fakes the handoff and sweeps out to the right sideline. This way your 3 RBs go running off right guard and your QB slips behind them out to the right. You can alternate this play and the 24 Lead, and before you know it I think the kids on D will be wondering who's got the ball, the RB or the QB. Key to the play will be the right TE and the right T to push forward real hard with a good surge, and get the kids in the middle of the defense "caught in the wash" to spring the QB around the edge.

Only works if your QB isn't a slow oaf.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 04:20 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
That's what I'm hoping for, but we need our TEs to get a good seal off the edge.

As far as being able to pound the ball, the Wishbone has been MONEY thus far. I have another practice tonight and I'll put in a couple of these ideas guys.

Monkeydad 09-05-2007 04:29 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
Cool, I love watching the Wishbone offense. Are they good enough for QB and RB options?

Warpath 09-05-2007 05:42 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
Scan the 86 Gibbs playbook...
[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/misc/Gibbsplaybook.pdf[/url]

TheMalcolmConnection 09-05-2007 07:48 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
Just an update on our second practice in pads and the kids continue to look good. I put in defense today, running a Gap-8, and they didn't allow a yard. Albeit, it was mostly our second team offense, but the D looked nasty.

dall-assblows 09-05-2007 10:14 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
on my little league team we had a statue of liberty play, worked every time

firstdown 09-07-2007 11:28 AM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
When I played little league the ast. coach but ten dollars on the QB and it seem to motivate the D even more. That was 30 years ago and if you get caught doing that in todays time you may get thrown in jail. So tell the kids not to tell anyone. LOL

MTK 09-07-2007 11:40 AM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
I couldn't get your link to work TMC but do you have any traps in there for running plays? They should be simple enough for the tikes to run.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-07-2007 11:45 AM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
The traps are going in next week. We have 2 pages in the playbook right now with 8 plays, 16 if you count going to the other side and 32 if you count running them out of split formation.

Another team practicing last night wanted to scrimmage us (the champs from last year) thinking they would totally dominate. If it was a game, we might have lost something like 35-28. They have ONE stud player like every other team in the league except for us who was the ONLY one who did any damage.

Monkeydad 09-07-2007 01:27 PM

Re: 2007 Little League Playbook
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;348282]The traps are going in next week. We have 2 pages in the playbook right now ...[/quote]


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