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Actually I'm glad that Heyer is playing right tackle now. He is more versatile and more finesse than Jansen which fits the Al Saunders offense the best. I hate to see him get hurt but watch what I say. I know that I'm going to catch flack for saying this but I know what I'm talking about. He will be the future right tackle for us next year.

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Yeah, I thought for sure Todd Wade would be in there.

I guess it's a good sign. Maybe Stephon Heyer will be the next Joe Jacoby --undrafted free agent signee -- and a fixture for years to come.

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You just might be right, that guy is a stud!!

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;348996]Yeah, I thought for sure Todd Wade would be in there.

I guess it's a good sign. Maybe Stephon Heyer will be the next Joe Jacoby --undrafted free agent signee -- and a fixture for years to come.[/QUOTE]

I believe Wade was held out due to injury. My guess is that he starts next week if he is healthy.

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I told you guys, all guys kept bashing on Heyer through the preseason.. I knew he could develop into good T..

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Heyer looked decent for an NFL RT, and great for a UFA rookie RT. I hope, however, that Wade is healthy next week and can start. I really believe our passing game suffered greatly when Jansen went out and Cooley and/or the backs were being held in to block on the right side of the line.

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I agree Heyer looked border line amazing, but come on guys lets not throw a party over this guy just yet. I would rather have Jansen out there at least for the rest of this year, unless he continues to get man-handled.

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Heyer was good but he did get pushed back pretty bad a few times and Dierdorf remarked that he was playing too high on Taylor. If Wade is healthy he should be in there.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;349421]Heyer was good but he did get pushed back pretty bad a few times and Dierdorf remarked that he was playing too high on Taylor. If Wade is healthy he should be in there.[/QUOTE]

Didn't Taylor also aggravate his groin midway through the first half? So he wasn't 100% anyway

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Heyer really held up well considering he's basically never played right tackle. Its almost miraculous. I guess Gibbs was pretty brilliant in getting Heyer all that work in the pre-season.

My first instinct is to say put Wade in next week, but Perhaps Heyer is just this decades Jacoby. Either way we should be able to absorb the loss of Jansen - which is of course unfortunate.

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I think either Wade or Heyer will fill in nicely. The problem now becomes DEPTH. I would think that we will be searching the wire for some Off Tackles if the docs say Jansen is done for the year and/or an time that goes past 6 weeks.

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[quote=jbcjr14;349500]I think either Wade or Heyer will fill in nicely. The problem now becomes DEPTH. I would think that we will be searching the wire for some Off Tackles if the docs say Jansen is done for the year and/or an time that goes past 6 weeks.[/quote]

Congratulations on predicting the score right.

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I liked the rookie. I was very, very impressed to not hear his name as the game progressed. That's the sign of a successful offensive lineman. Id rather see the rookie use this year to grow into the backup he'll probably be for his career. And starting reps will give him the experience he needs.

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It's gonna be Wade ([url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url] if not already posted somewhere) from this point on.. I think that's probably a good thing, he's a veteran, typically plays RT, lets Heyer remain as quality depth at both OT positions..

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i was really impressed with Wades play last season. Heyer gives the skins some depth. did an OK job after being rushed into playing

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Yep. The only reason Wade didn't replace Jansen yesterday was because Wade was inactive, partly because of the sore shoulder, but mainly because the Skins didn't think they'd need him. The shoulder thing is minor, and now that the Skins know they'll need him, he'll be the starter.

There's no way Stephon Heyer could ever be considered a better choice at RT than Todd Wade. RT is exactly where Wade belongs - and to be truthful - I see no downgrade going from Jansen to Wade.

It's just our T depth is thin now. Heyer is an adequate backup, but I don't want him starting. Did we notice how absent Cooley was yesterday? That's because he was helping Heyer in pass protection. We need him running routes, so we need Wade to hold his own.

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[quote=70Chip;349513]Congratulations on predicting the score right.[/quote]

Ahhh, someone noticed that???? Hehehe, I know it all!

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;350045]Yep. The only reason Wade didn't replace Jansen yesterday was because Wade was inactive, partly because of the sore shoulder, but mainly because the Skins didn't think they'd need him. The shoulder thing is minor, and now that the Skins know they'll need him, he'll be the starter.

There's no way Stephon Heyer could ever be considered a better choice at RT than Todd Wade. RT is exactly where Wade belongs - and to be truthful - I see no downgrade going from Jansen to Wade.

It's just our T depth is thin now. Heyer is an adequate backup, but I don't want him starting. Did we notice how absent Cooley was yesterday? That's because he was helping Heyer in pass protection. We need him running routes, so we need Wade to hold his own.[/QUOTE]

Well we've also got Jason Fabini at T as well

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[quote=SmootSmack;350051]Well we've also got Jason Fabini at T as well[/quote]

Stinks with a capital stinks.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;349421]Heyer was good but he did get pushed back pretty bad a few times and Dierdorf remarked that he was playing too high on Taylor. If Wade is healthy he should be in there.[/QUOTE] Maybe and maybe not. Heyer has a lot to learn but he has alot to work with. Some of th OL men we have drafted lately you can't say that about. He was playing against a pro bowl type player so it is a big step to having a young line for seasons to come. Pluse D line coach can work on that being too high and other things!!!

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;350045]Yep. The only reason Wade didn't replace Jansen yesterday was because Wade was inactive, partly because of the sore shoulder, but mainly because the Skins didn't think they'd need him. The shoulder thing is minor, and now that the Skins know they'll need him, he'll be the starter.

There's no way Stephon Heyer could ever be considered a better choice at RT than Todd Wade. RT is exactly where Wade belongs - and to be truthful - I see no downgrade going from Jansen to Wade.

It's just our T depth is thin now. Heyer is an adequate backup, but I don't want him starting. Did we notice how absent Cooley was yesterday? That's because he was helping Heyer in pass protection. We need him running routes, so we need Wade to hold his own.[/QUOTE] Maybe it was the other way around Cooley look like shit blocking!!! Wow he was bad!!!!

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So who's the best tackle to sign after Jansen goes on IR? Or are we just going to resign Calvin Armstrong?

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[quote=Beemnseven;348996]Yeah, I thought for sure Todd Wade would be in there.

I guess it's a good sign. Maybe Stephon Heyer will be the next Joe Jacoby --undrafted free agent signee -- and a fixture for years to come.[/quote]

The only reason Heyer went in there instead of Wade is b/c Wade was on the inactive list (anyone know why btw??). Heyer is still a project, but Buges is great at getting max value out of a player. I think he and Wade can both help. Make them fight it out in practice and see what happens going forward... Thank god we got Kendall, otherwise we'd be up shit's creek with no paddle.

It should also be noted that a major reason Yoder saw a lot of time and Cooley only caught one ball is b/c we had to keep them on the line to help Heyer handle Taylor/outside pass rush...

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;350045]Yep. The only reason Wade didn't replace Jansen yesterday was because Wade was inactive, partly because of the sore shoulder, but mainly because the Skins didn't think they'd need him. The shoulder thing is minor, and now that the Skins know they'll need him, he'll be the starter.

There's no way Stephon Heyer could ever be considered a better choice at RT than Todd Wade. RT is exactly where Wade belongs - and to be truthful - I see no downgrade going from Jansen to Wade.

It's just our T depth is thin now. Heyer is an adequate backup, but I don't want him starting. Did we notice how absent Cooley was yesterday? That's because he was helping Heyer in pass protection. We need him running routes, so we need Wade to hold his own.[/QUOTE]


Good post, Schneed--I completely agree. Hopefully Heyer will continue to develop, but right now, it's Wade, IMO.

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I don't think it will be Heyer, but after listening to the Gibbs press confrence, I am not sure. I think either way we have more depth than ever. They wont get another tackle it will be another guard. They already were carring to many tackles.

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If you go by what Gibbs said in his press conference then I would definitely say that Heyer is starting, but you never know. I think since he did such a great job we should put him in there next week. If he really starts to slump we have the luxury of Todd Wade.

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i think Wade will start if healthy - he did a good job last year when he went in -- however, Heyer held his own yesterday considering he had NEVER played right - i think time and development will turn Stephon into a fixture on that line

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heyer all the way. he could probably be a starter for us next year at the same position.

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Bugel told Channel 4 here in Washington earlier tonight that Wade would probably be the guy, but they hadn't discussed it as a staff.

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i mean sure wade has the Exp. but he sucks. he was terrible in miami, and houston. i dont think he had a rebirth.

heyer is good, smart and has TREMENDOUS upside an potential.

he shut down taylor, even if he wasnt 100%. he is still one of the best at 85-90%. plus clinton portis, campbell, an the rest of the line have faith in him. CP seem to be happy to have him in over wade in his presser.

ADV - heyer

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Wade is the obvious pick.

Heyer is good for depth but over the long haul you want the vet in there.

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I think saying that Wade sucks is way off base. I am not sure who will start. Wade has a torn laburnum. Wade did not suck in Miami or Texas. He just never played as well as they thought he would. He is only 30. Three years ago hear tore his knee up and he was paid big time, so they cut him in Texas, at 27 years old. Tackles are just reaching their prime at that age. He fought thought it and he is starter material. From what I am hearing he probably will need surgery after the season is over(just my own insight into the injury). That is the reason he is not the hands down starter. I also think Heyer has been great. I will trust what ever decision Gibbs makes.

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I think the concern with Heyer would be the complex schemes run by Jim Johnson and the Eagles. Miami blitzed some, but not a lot. I think, on the road against all the blitzes, you have to lean towards Wade unless his injury is unmanageable. As I said before he has a reputation as a great pass protector when he is at Right Tackle.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;349369]Heyer looked decent for an NFL RT, and great for a UFA rookie RT. I hope, however, that Wade is healthy next week and can start. I really believe our passing game suffered greatly when Jansen went out and Cooley and/or the backs were being held in to block on the right side of the line.[/quote]

I agree. Cooley's not the best at blocking and keeping him back in pass protection does us no good.

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I don't know Sheriff. We gave up no sacks after Heyer came in if I remember correctly.

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[quote=70Chip;350302]I think the concern with Heyer would be the complex schemes run by Jim Johnson and the Eagles. Miami blitzed some, but not a lot. I think, on the road against all the blitzes, you have to lean towards Wade unless his injury is unmanageable. As I said before he has a reputation as a great pass protector when he is at Right Tackle.[/quote]

Yep, and give someone like Jimmy Johnson a week to prepare for an undrafted FA at right tackle and we'll have big problems.

If Wade can go he's gotta be in there. I'd be really surprised if Heyer starts.

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I want Wade too if he's healthy. I loved hearing last year that most defensive players had more trouble with Wade than Jansen.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;350404]I want Wade too if he's healthy. I loved hearing last year that most defensive players had more trouble with Wade than Jansen.[/quote]

Problem is he 'aint healthy. I think this is one of those injuries he's going to have to play with the entire season.

In an interview Wade said he'd being playing with a harness on that shoulder for a while.When asked if he was 100%, he said something like, well I'm healthy enough.

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Well, I trust the coaching staff to know if Heyer needs to go in or not.

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I voted Heyner, but after reading some posts, Wade should definetly start. I've seen time and time again where people come into the game and do well because the other team couldn't look at video tape of the player and take advantage of him. I feel that with a week to prepare for an unexperienced RT, the eagles will have a field day.