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jsarno 09-10-2007 01:05 AM

After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
Week 1 is just about over, so who do you think is the most underrated to this point?

jsarno 09-10-2007 01:06 AM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
After what Eli did...I'd have to give him at least 1 vote.

SmootSmack 09-10-2007 01:32 AM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
Antwaan Randle El!!!!

Mario Williams. 2 sacks, returned a fumble for a TD. I think he'll be very good. He'll just always be overshadowed by Reggie Bush unfortunately.

Meks 09-10-2007 01:53 AM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
eli ... did better than most thought def...

mario williams finally coming into his own...

john kitna played well, even if it was gainst the silver n black

uh...

i unno i wanna say the vikings...

dunno who else off top hand..

jsarno 09-10-2007 02:00 AM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
How about Chris Brown and his 175 yards?
He was supposed to be on a committee with White being the #1 back.

BrudLee 09-10-2007 02:20 AM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
Shaun Suisham. His coach had "kick it on 1st" faith in him and it was rewarded.

jsarno 09-10-2007 02:22 AM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
[QUOTE=BrudLee;349819]Shaun Suisham. His coach had "kick it on 1st" faith in him and it was rewarded.[/QUOTE]

very good point.

Cowell 09-10-2007 09:09 PM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
[QUOTE=Meks;349807]eli ... did better than most thought def...

mario williams finally coming into his own...

[B]john kitna played well, even if it was gainst the silver n black[/B]

uh...

i unno i wanna say the vikings...

dunno who else off top hand..[/QUOTE]

Just letting you know the Raiders have one of the best pass defenses in the NFL so a pat on the back to John. Even though he has to of the most freakishly athletic receivers in the NFL.

GTripp0012 09-10-2007 09:15 PM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
How about Josh McCown? Played brilliantly in a losing effort under Raider-like duress most of the day.

WillH 09-10-2007 09:18 PM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
Maybe greenbay?

EternalEnigma21 09-10-2007 09:19 PM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
hate to say this but randy moss...

for a fourth rounder the guy performed like a champ...

skinsfan45 09-10-2007 10:46 PM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
our own Big Mike continues to be under-rated - the Walla Walla Wonder is an impressive football player - we should be using him more

RobH4413 09-10-2007 10:50 PM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
Maybe Walt Harris... just started off the season with a pick and almost had a fumble recovery.

He really surprised a lot of people last year didn't he.

jsarno 09-11-2007 12:18 AM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
How about the entire SKins team...we're winning it all!

GusFrerotte 09-11-2007 12:47 AM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
Probably Detroit or Green Bay.


With goods producing industries in long term decline as more and more production of US firms is moved offshore, the engineering professions are in decline."

"The US “superpower” even has a deficit in capital goods, including machinery, electric generating machinery, machine tools, computers, and telecommunications equipment."


but theres no shortage of beer, condoms, football, potato chips, cigs, and shitty music, shitty tv shows, and shitheaded people

SmootSmack 09-11-2007 01:29 AM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;350334]Probably Detroit or Green Bay.


With goods producing industries in long term decline as more and more production of US firms is moved offshore, the engineering professions are in decline."

"The US “superpower” even has a deficit in capital goods, including machinery, electric generating machinery, machine tools, computers, and telecommunications equipment."


but theres no shortage of beer, condoms, football, potato chips, cigs, and shitty music, shitty tv shows, and shitheaded people[/QUOTE]

Where in the world are you going with that post?

Redskins8588 09-11-2007 02:44 AM

Re: After week 1, who's the most underrated?
 
[QUOTE=Cowell;350227]Just letting you know the Raiders have one of the best pass defenses in the NFL so a pat on the back to John. Even though he has to of the most freakishly athletic receivers in the NFL.[/QUOTE]

Yes, last season the Raiders did have the best pass defense in the league. They gave up 150 yards passing per game. But the same Raider defense last year was 25th for run defense giving up 134 yards a game.

So, if you are an opposing head coach and you have a lead against the Raiders at half time, and you know that they can not stop the run, what is most likly going to happen in the second half? I am going out on a limb with this and say that the opposing team is going to run the ball in the second half, alot.

My point is that the Raiders pass defense was "ranked" 1st but teams didn't have to pass against them to beat them. They couldn't stop the run and Oaklands offense wasn't going to light it up to where the Raiders would be in a shoot out with anyone. I do not think that there pass defense is that great. I think that their "ranking" is over inflated due to them being so bad that teams did not have to pass against them often to win the game. To further prove my point the Raiders "WONDERFUL PASS DEFENSE" had only 410 pass attempts which puts them last in the league in that catogory. Where as the Vikings had 599 passes attempted against their pass defense and they only gave up 15 passing TD'S, where the Raiders pass D gave up 17 TD's. Not only did the Vikings pass D get thrown against for 189 times more but they still gave up 2 TD's less than Oakland.

In conclusion, the Oakland Raiders were and still are the worst team in the NFL. No one should be touting the Raiders pass defens as good, because as I pointed out they are [SIZE="5"][B]WAY, WAY WAY, OVERRATED[/B][/SIZE]!!!

Very truly yours,
Redskins8588


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