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RedskinPete 09-10-2007 05:17 PM

Eli Manning out at least a month
 
It was reported on ESPn MNF countdown so I guess he will be on the sidline in week three against Skins! A shoulder separation and is out four or more weeks.

BigSKINBauer 09-10-2007 05:19 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
good for us because we play them in 2 weeks.

Will they pick up leftwich?

RobH4413 09-10-2007 05:20 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
Great call BSB.... I think they just might.

As if the Giants didn't already suck. We need to come out to play against Philli and build our NFC east lead early.

SmootSmack 09-10-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
Congratulations Pete! Your thread was selected as the one (out of three posted at the same time) Eli out a month thread that would not be locked.

Thank you all for playing. The decision was completely random.

Anyhow, this means both Eli and Jacobs are out for our game against them. Next week's game against Philly is huge for us. This is a big opportunity for us to get off to a big start

70Chip 09-10-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
We get to play against Lumpy. And Jacobs will be questionable. Everything is going perfectly to plan.

Dlyne8r 09-10-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
While I never wish for a player to be seriously injured, this is a situation that we need to take full advantage of.

SmootSmack 09-10-2007 05:22 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer;350089]good for us because we play them in 2 weeks.

Will they pick up leftwich?[/QUOTE]

Knowing Leftwich's alleged adversity to practicing hard, and Coughlin's drill sargeant tendencies that'd be quite a combo to see.

firstdown 09-10-2007 05:24 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
Ok everyone thinks this is a big deal for Eli to be out but you are the same guys who says he sucks. So why does it matter?

mlmpetert 09-10-2007 05:25 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[quote=SmootSmack;350093]Congratulations Pete! Your thread was selected as the one (out of three posted at the same time) Eli out a month thread that would not be locked.

Thank you all for playing. The decision was completely random.

Anyhow, this means both Eli and Jacobs are out for our game against them. Next week's game against Philly is huge for us. This is a big opportunity for us to get off to a big start[/quote]

I guess we all feel obligated to post any news effecting the Redskins immediately to the Warpath.

I do think he sucks but they dont really have any other options. Do they still have that really big guy from Kentucky?

RedskinPete 09-10-2007 05:26 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;350093]Congratulations Pete! Your thread was selected as the one (out of three posted at the same time) Eli out a month thread that would not be locked.

Thank you all for playing. The decision was completely random.

Anyhow, this means both Eli and Jacobs are out for our game against them. Next week's game against Philly is huge for us. This is a big opportunity for us to get off to a big start[/QUOTE]
I didn't see a lot of the Philly game vs GB but what did the Pack do to beat them? Can we do the saome thing?

RedskinPete 09-10-2007 05:31 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[QUOTE=firstdown;350100]Ok everyone thinks this is a big deal for Eli to be out but you are the same guys who says he sucks. So why does it matter?[/QUOTE] Because his back ups are really untested Jared Lorenzen and Anthony Wright.

70Chip 09-10-2007 05:31 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[quote=firstdown;350100]Ok everyone thinks this is a big deal for Eli to be out but you are the same guys who says he sucks. So why does it matter?[/quote]

I don't think he sucks. I think he's inconsistent and has a lot of poor habits such as throwing off his back foot. His backup weighs a metric ton and likes to eat a baby. [I]Chile's baby back ribs, Chile's baby back ribs.[/I]

GMScud 09-10-2007 05:34 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[quote=SmootSmack;350098]Knowing Leftwich's alleged adversity to practicing hard, and Coughlin's drill sargeant tendencies that'd be quite a combo to see.[/quote]

Coughlin is such a lame duck as it is, the FO shouldn't care. Plus, if Leftwich wants to resurrect his career he better stop being so adverse to hard work. I think this is a great chance for him. I think it's a safe bet to say Eli misses more like 8 weeks. A seperated throwing shoulder is serious.

LMsexyAO 09-10-2007 05:38 PM

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Jared Lorenzen: 6-4 and 285

Largest quarterback in the NFL actually

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lorenzen]Jared Lorenzen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

mlmpetert 09-10-2007 05:40 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[quote=70Chip;350113]I don't think he sucks. I think he's inconsistent and has a lot of poor habits such as throwing off his back foot. His backup weighs a metric ton and likes to eat a baby. [I]Chile's baby back ribs, Chile's baby back ribs.[/I][/quote]

Heres Jared's info followed by Mike Seller's:

[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/jaredlorenzen/profile?id=LOR479169]Jared Lorenzen[/url]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/mikesellers/profile?id=SEL465626]Mike Sellers[/url]

Jared has a an LB and a inch on big Mike

Thats pretty sweet.

GMScud 09-10-2007 05:40 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
Any way you slice it, with Umenyiora out two months, Jacobs a month, and Eli at least a month, coupled with an already awful defense, we should kick the piss outta them week 3...

WillH 09-10-2007 05:42 PM

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[quote=GMScud;350124]Any way you slice it, with Umenyiora out two months, Jacobs a month, and Eli at least a month, coupled with an already awful defense, we should kick the piss outta them week 3...[/quote]


Yeah I agree week 3 SHOULD be an easy win, Let's just hope we beat the eagles first.

Beemnseven 09-10-2007 05:45 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[QUOTE=LMsexyAO;350119]Jared Lorenzen: 6-4 and 285

Largest quarterback in the NFL actually

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lorenzen]Jared Lorenzen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url][/QUOTE]

The Pillsbury Throwboy

WillH 09-10-2007 05:45 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
For the sake of being conservative, let us remember that it seemed like Philly was out of contention last year when they lost Donovan McNabb, who, IMO, is a much more vital cog to the Eagles then Eli is to the Giants...

They may still surprise us all...[I]although I doubt it[/I]

SmootSmack 09-10-2007 05:54 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[QUOTE=WillH;350132]For the sake of being conservative, let us remember that it seemed like Philly was out of contention last year when they lost Donovan McNabb, who, IMO, is a much more vital cog to the Eagles then Eli is to the Giants...

They may still surprise us all...[I]although I doubt it[/I][/QUOTE]

True, but the key to the Eagles success last season was really putting the fate of the team in the hands of Brian Westbrook.

Somehow, I'm not as worried about Derrick Ward taking the Giants anywhere

SmootSmack 09-10-2007 05:57 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[QUOTE=GMScud;350115]Coughlin is such a lame duck as it is, the FO shouldn't care. Plus, if Leftwich wants to resurrect his career he better stop being so adverse to hard work. I think this is a great chance for him. I think it's a safe bet to say Eli misses more like 8 weeks. A seperated throwing shoulder is serious.[/QUOTE]

I think more likely is that they re-sign Tim Hasselbeck. At least he knows the offense.

dmek25 09-10-2007 06:02 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
i wish Manning would play. he sucks, and the giants success against us was strictly a product of Tiki Barbers skills

FRPLG 09-10-2007 06:05 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
PFT, while stressing it is a rumor, reports it could be a season ending deal. Didn't look that bad to me but who knows.

[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm]ProFootballTalk.com -- The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet[/url]

GMScud 09-10-2007 06:16 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[quote=dmek25;350142]i wish Manning would play. he sucks, and the giants success against us was strictly a product of Tiki Barbers skills[/quote]

He hasn't been great. But he went into Dallas and threw for 312 and 4TDs before going down. I think the rest of the NFC East is fortunate he's gonna miss some time. To say you wish he would play over Jared Lorenzen or some other guy off the street doesn't make sense to me.

Paintrain 09-10-2007 06:26 PM

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;350131]The Pillsbury Throwboy[/QUOTE]

I was going to wait until Giants week before trotting out a Lorenzen nickname thread.. The Hefty Lefty and The Pillsbury Throwboy are my faves.. Any others?

12thMan 09-10-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
Just for the record, there are no easy wins in the NFL. I promise you, whomever the Giants line up against us it won't be a blow out.

I think even if Manning can return this season, it probably really is a season ending deal for him. That thing will never heal properly until he gets into off season and fully rehab.

I don't think Leftwich is good fit for the Giants anyway, he's looking for a long-term deal anyways.

[B]In other news concerning the Skins[/B]: Mike Brown and Dvoracek, their start NT, are done for the year.

GMScud 09-10-2007 06:32 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[quote=12thMan;350153]Just for the record, there are no easy wins in the NFL. I promise you, whomever the Giants line up against us it won't be a blow out.

I think even if Manning can return this season, it probably really is a season ending deal for him. That thing will never heal properly until he gets into off season and fully rehab.

I don't think Leftwich is good fit for the Giants anyway, he's looking for a long-term deal anyways.[/quote]

The whole thing about no easy wins I don't necessarily buy. The Steelers, Patriots, and Colts all absolutely waxed their opponents week 1. I don't think any of those players would publicly say they were easy wins, but come on...

12thMan 09-10-2007 06:41 PM

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[quote=GMScud;350156]The whole thing about no easy wins I don't necessarily buy. The Steelers, Patriots, and Colts all absolutely waxed their opponents week 1. I don't think any of those players would publicly say they were easy wins, but come on...[/quote]


True, but that's not what I'm really getting at. Even in a blow out though, the winning team usually plays an exceptionally excuted game plan or the other team gave them a ton of turnovers. You might see the Colts beat a team the way they beat the Saints one more time this year - maybe. And I'll be if they played the Saints three times within a season, you wouldn't get those results. The Colts were firing on all cylinders and the Saints were a tad bit flat and out of sync. Taking nothing from Indy though.

What I am getting at is just because these injuries are taking their toll on the Giants doesn't mean they're going to roll over for the Redskins and decided they're a last place team...and it damn sure doesn't make it a cake walk. Teams are going to have to beat the hell out of the Giants now. Any coach will tell you they are more afraid of playing these type of teams, than one that are probably a little more predictable in terms of personnel.

mooby 09-10-2007 06:47 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
We should have an easier time against the Giants considering their starting quarterback, running back, and Pro Bowl defensive end are gonna be out. I don't wish injury on anyone, but we need to take advantage of this. Another big injury that could help us out next week is Lito Sheppard, he's already been declared out for the game with a sprained MCL.

RMSkins 09-10-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
Well it looks like we get the Giants without Eli, and Jacobs. Sounds good to me.

NicknacK89 09-10-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
first i dont want to celebrate the giants getting injured, especially after what happened to the te in buffalo. but secondly on nfl live a while ago i think john clayton was the one who said the skins would hold on to brunell for the season to start because if a qb went down they could get a lot more for him... this is probably the only case i would want to trade inside the division

thoughts??

SmootSmack 09-10-2007 07:20 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[QUOTE=Paintrain;350152]I was going to wait until Giants week before trotting out a Lorenzen nickname thread.. The Hefty Lefty and The Pillsbury Throwboy are my faves.. Any others?[/QUOTE]

Here's a preview of what Landry will do to [URL="http://youtube.com/watch?v=_iAOZO7o3Ck"]Lorenzen[/URL] :)

SmootSmack 09-10-2007 07:23 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[QUOTE=NicknacK89;350184]first i dont want to celebrate the giants getting injured, especially after what happened to the te in buffalo. but secondly on nfl live a while ago i think john clayton was the one who said the skins would hold on to brunell for the season to start because if a qb went down they could get a lot more for him... this is probably the only case i would want to trade inside the division

thoughts??[/QUOTE]

What can the Giants offer us? I don't think we should trade Brunell to anyone in our division or conference. It's too bad the Giants just lost three starters, but it's not our problem. And we're not here to help them

FRPLG 09-10-2007 07:31 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[QUOTE=NicknacK89;350184]first i dont want to celebrate the giants getting injured, especially after what happened to the te in buffalo. but secondly on nfl live a while ago i think john clayton was the one who said the skins would hold on to brunell for the season to start because if a qb went down they could get a lot more for him... this is probably the only case i would want to trade inside the division

thoughts??[/QUOTE]There is zero chance we trade a QB to a division foe simply because his insight into our offense would too great. I doubt we deal Brunell anyways but it certainly won't happen to anyone we end up playing later on.

Chief X_Phackter 09-10-2007 07:41 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[quote=WillH;350127]Yeah I agree week 3 SHOULD be an easy win, Let's just hope we beat the eagles first.[/quote]

There's no such thing as an easy win in the NFL, let alone in the NFC East. Do you happen to remember 1989? We gave a certain team in the NFC East their only victory that year? It was supposed to be an easy win.

724Skinsfan 09-10-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[quote=SmootSmack;350185]Here's a preview of what Landry will do to [URL="http://youtube.com/watch?v=_iAOZO7o3Ck"]Lorenzen[/URL] :)[/quote]

Dear lord! Not Jared [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mklcpG-ku1E"]Stay Puft MarshMaLorenzan[/URL]!

Skins_4_Lyfe 09-10-2007 09:13 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
This may sound strange but I'm pissed that Brandon Jacobs will be out...I was looking forward to seeing him and Sean go at it, those two really don't like each other.
[quote=]
Jacobs could also be seen howling at Washington safety Sean Taylor. Jacobs said after the game Taylor warned him, "You'd better protect yourself" the next time they tangled.
"He throws his whole body out there like he's got another one in the closet," Jacobs said. "I don't see myself taking one of those hits. I respect his game. The NFL needs safeties like him, the way he hits, it sets the tone. Me, myself, I'm not going to allow the tone to get set by him hitting me like that." Jacobs also accused the Redskins of spitting at him last year and of twisting ankles and hitting in the groin whenever they get the chance. "Those kind of things," he said. [B][I]New York Post [url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/10092006/sports/giants/jacobs__jints_say_skins_play_dirty_giants_paul_schwartz.htm]JACOBS, JINTS SAY SKINS PLAY 'DIRTY' | By PAUL SCHWARTZ | New York Giants[/url][/I][/B][/quote]
youv'e got to love this

Paintrain 09-10-2007 09:21 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;350185]Here's a preview of what Landry will do to [URL="http://youtube.com/watch?v=_iAOZO7o3Ck"]Lorenzen[/URL] :)[/QUOTE]

Classic.

D'BOYZ 09-10-2007 09:53 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
I haven't read a[B] Thank You[/B] to the Cowboys for practically giving you a W in week 3

Oakland Red 09-10-2007 10:07 PM

Re: Eli Manning out at least a month
 
Speaking of players who are out, cornerback Lito Sheppard of the Eagles will miss next week's game:

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012935]ESPN - Eagles' star CB Sheppard out at least one game - NFL[/url]


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