Is The NFC East Back?
 

Sorry Packers fans, but the three best teams in the NFC this year all come from the NFC East. Arguably, in the very order of the current standings: [B]Cowboys, Giants, Redskins. [/B]You'd be hard pressed picking three teams from the same division to make the playoffs, but it could very well end up that way. Here's my brief breakdown of how the division has faired through six weeks.

[B]Dallas Cowboys:[/B] [B]5-1 [/B]The Cowboys are regarded by many as the best team in the NFC right now, and deservedly so. They have a balanced attack on offense and a nice defense to boot. The return of WR Terry Glenn, the soon to be addition of Tank Johnson, and a bye week to nurse some key injuries makes it quite tempting to jump on the band wagon too. But after a nail biter in Buffalo and a whupping by the New England Patriots, the Cowboys have suddenly been brought back down to earth. And with the Giants and Redskins now breathing down their necks, the divisional race could get quite interesting as we approach Thanksgiving Day. No one really questions the talent level on this squad, but if I'm a Cowboys fan , my chief concern is whether or not Wade Phillips can keep his locker room from believing it's own press. After Sunday's lost, both Tony Romo and Terrell Owens alluded to the possibility they could "see New England down the road" in the Super Bowl. If Phillips can't temper such comments in the future, it could be doomsday in big D.

[B][B]The New York Giants: 4-2[/B] [/B]The Giants, in my mind, could be the scariest team, not just in the NFC, but in all of football. At the beginning of the season I picked them to finish dead last, but carefully hedged myself by saying this is a team easily capable of winning it all - and I still believe that. The Giants, irrespective of standings or statistics, have a knack for turning it on and getting hot really fast. If Eli Manning and Plaxico Burress continue to play at this level, they'll present some problems for the rest the way. With Tiki Barber now out of the way, and Michael Strahan managing to keep quiet for two weeks in a row, Tom Coughlin's biggest challenge is to keep the fire burning long enough to make a hard push at winning the division. I know it's really early to be talking playoffs, but trust me these guys peek ahead on the schedule now and then.

[B][B]Washington Redskins: 3-2 [/B][/B]The jury is still out on which way the Redskins will actully swing this year. Many are struggling whether to lump the Redskins in the middle with the Minnesota's and Tamp Bay's of the conference or to put them a step and a half behind the Cowboys. After a disappointing loss to Green Bay, and having their offensive line depleted the Skins hope to rebound and find themselves 4-2 on Sunday. The two constants for the Skins this year have been a stingy Gregg Williams defense and the emergence and maturity of quarterback Jason Campbell. Those are the two things the Skins have hung their hat on through five games, and chances are, it will be those very things that will carry them the rest of the way. The running game, to no fault of it's own, has been wildly inconsistent, and other than Randel-El, and very recently, TE Chris Cooley, no one has asserted themselves as the go to receiver. If the Redskins want to vie for a playoff position and be taken seriously as we approach the mid-way point, these are questions that must be answered.

[B][B]Philadelphia Eagles: 2-3[/B] [/B]Once considered the dominant team in the NFC East, a combination of age, injuries, and a lack of meaningful off season moves have finally caught up with the Eagles. While it's too early to write the Eagles off just yet, the odds are they should finish last this year. But anything can happen in the NFL these days. The Eagles will use the draft and free agencey to re-tool at some key positions, and look toward next season.

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[quote=12thMan;365203]Sorry Packers fans, but the three best teams in the NFC this year all come from the NFC East. Arguably, in the very order of the current standings: [B]Cowboys, Giants, Redskins. [/B]You'd be hard pressed picking three teams from the same division to make the playoffs, but it could very well end up that way. Here's my brief breakdown of how the division has faired through six weeks.

[B]Dallas Cowboys:[/B] [B]5-1 [/B]The Cowboys are regarded by many as the best team in the NFC right now, and deservedly so. They have a balanced attack on offense and a nice defense to boot. The return of WR Terry Glenn, the soon to be addition of Tank Johnson, and a bye week to nurse some key injuries makes it quite tempting to jump on the band wagon too. But after a nail biter in Buffalo and a whupping by the New England Patriots, the Cowboys have suddenly been brought back down to earth. And with the Giants and Redskins now breathing down their necks, the divisional race could get quite interesting as we approach Thanksgiving Day. No one really questions the talent level on this squad, but if I'm a Cowboys fan , my chief concern is whether or not Wade Phillips can keep his locker room from believing it's own press. After Sunday's lost, both Tony Romo and Terrell Owens alluded to the possibility they could "see New England down the road" in the Super Bowl. If Phillips can't temper such comments in the future, it could be doomsday in big D.

[B][B]The New York Giants: 4-2[/B] [/B]The Giants, in my mind, could be the scariest team, not just in the NFC, but in all of football. At the beginning of the season I picked them to finish dead last, but carefully hedged myself by saying this is a team easily capable of winning it all - and I still believe that. The Giants, irrespective of standings or statistics, have a knack for turning it on and getting hot really fast. If Eli Manning and Plaxico Burress continue to play at this level, they'll present some problems for the rest the way. With Tiki Barber now out of the way, and Michael Strahan managing to keep quiet for two weeks in a row, Tom Coughlin's biggest challenge is to keep the fire burning long enough to make a hard push at winning the division. I know it's really early to be talking playoffs, but trust me these guys peek ahead on the schedule now and then.

[B][B]Washington Redskins: 3-2 [/B][/B]The jury is still out on which way the Redskins will actully swing this year. Many are struggling whether to lump the Redskins in the middle with the Minnesota's and Tamp Bay's of the conference or to put them a step and a half behind the Cowboys. After a disappointing loss to Green Bay, and having their offensive line depleted the Skins hope to rebound and find themselves 4-2 on Sunday. The two constants for the Skins this year have been a stingy Gregg Williams defense and the emergence and maturity of quarterback Jason Campbell. Those are the two things the Skins have hung their hat on through five games, and chances are, it will be those very things that will carry them the rest of the way. The running game, to no fault of it's own, has been wildly inconsistent, and other than Randel-El, and very recently, TE Chris Cooley, no one has asserted themselves as the go to receiver. If the Redskins want to vie for a playoff position and be taken seriously as we approach the mid-way point, these are questions that must be answered.

[B][B]Philadelphia Eagles: 2-3[/B] [/B]Once considered the dominant team in the NFC East, a combination of age, injuries, and a lack of meaningful off season moves have finally caught up with the Eagles. While it's too early to write the Eagles off just yet, the odds are they should finish last this year. But anything can happen in the NFL these days. The Eagles will use the draft and free agencey to re-tool at some key positions, and look toward next season.[/quote]

OK... I am a Skins fan... but if we JUST lost to the Packers.. how can we say we are better than them? Why don't we wait a couple of weeks... win a couple more games after that.. then say we are not the same team that just lost to them?

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[quote=12thMan;365203]Sorry Packers fans, but the three best teams in the NFC this year all come from the NFC East. Arguably, in the very order of the current standings: Cowboys, Giants, Redskins[B]. You'd be hard pressed picking three teams from the same division to make the playoffs, but it could very well end up that way[/B]. [/quote]
It just happened last year. Cowboys, Eagles and Giants.

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[quote=Redskin Rich;365204]OK... I am a Skins fan... but if we JUST lost to the Packers.. how can we say we are better than them? Why don't we wait a couple of weeks... win a couple more games after that.. then say we are not the same team that just lost to them?[/quote]


Sorry Rich, my thread so that makes the Skins better.

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[quote=TheBigD;365205]It just happened last year. Cowboys, Eagles and Giants.[/quote]


yeah, but two years in a row??

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[quote=12thMan;365203]Sorry Packers fans, but the three best teams in the NFC this year all come from the NFC East. Arguably, in the very order of the current standings: [B]Cowboys, Giants, Redskins. [/B]You'd be hard pressed picking three teams from the same division to make the playoffs, but it could very well end up that way. Here's my brief breakdown of how the division has faired through six weeks.

[B]Dallas Cowboys:[/B] [B]5-1 [/B]The Cowboys are regarded by many as the best team in the NFC right now, and deservedly so. They have a balanced attack on offense and a nice defense to boot. The return of WR Terry Glenn, the soon to be addition of Tank Johnson, and a bye week to nurse some key injuries makes it quite tempting to jump on the band wagon too. But after a nail biter in Buffalo and a whupping by the New England Patriots, the Cowboys have suddenly been brought back down to earth. And with the Giants and Redskins now breathing down their necks, the divisional race could get quite interesting as we approach Thanksgiving Day. No one really questions the talent level on this squad, but if I'm a Cowboys fan , my chief concern is whether or not Wade Phillips can keep his locker room from believing it's own press. After Sunday's lost, both Tony Romo and Terrell Owens alluded to the possibility they could "see New England down the road" in the Super Bowl. If Phillips can't temper such comments in the future, it could be doomsday in big D.

[B][B]The New York Giants: 4-2[/B] [/B]The Giants, in my mind, could be the scariest team, not just in the NFC, but in all of football. At the beginning of the season I picked them to finish dead last, but carefully hedged myself by saying this is a team easily capable of winning it all - and I still believe that. The Giants, irrespective of standings or statistics, have a knack for turning it on and getting hot really fast. If Eli Manning and Plaxico Burress continue to play at this level, they'll present some problems for the rest the way. With Tiki Barber now out of the way, and Michael Strahan managing to keep quiet for two weeks in a row, Tom Coughlin's biggest challenge is to keep the fire burning long enough to make a hard push at winning the division. I know it's really early to be talking playoffs, but trust me these guys peek ahead on the schedule now and then.

[B][B]Washington Redskins: 3-2 [/B][/B]The jury is still out on which way the Redskins will actully swing this year. Many are struggling whether to lump the Redskins in the middle with the Minnesota's and Tamp Bay's of the conference or to put them a step and a half behind the Cowboys. After a disappointing loss to Green Bay, and having their offensive line depleted the Skins hope to rebound and find themselves 4-2 on Sunday. The two constants for the Skins this year have been a stingy Gregg Williams defense and the emergence and maturity of quarterback Jason Campbell. Those are the two things the Skins have hung their hat on through five games, and chances are, it will be those very things that will carry them the rest of the way. The running game, to no fault of it's own, has been wildly inconsistent, and other than Randel-El, and very recently, TE Chris Cooley, no one has asserted themselves as the go to receiver. If the Redskins want to vie for a playoff position and be taken seriously as we approach the mid-way point, these are questions that must be answered.

[B][B]Philadelphia Eagles: 2-3[/B] [/B]Once considered the dominant team in the NFC East, a combination of age, injuries, and a lack of meaningful off season moves have finally caught up with the Eagles. While it's too early to write the Eagles off just yet, the odds are they should finish last this year. But anything can happen in the NFL these days. The Eagles will use the draft and free agencey to re-tool at some key positions, and look toward next season.[/quote]Don't forget the Bucs, 12th. That team has been playing great football and Garcia is having a pro bowl caliber year. They are probably the best team in the NFC right now.

That said, the NFC East has produced 4 of the best 6 teams in the conference through the first quarter of the season. So by definition, I guess that makes it back.

Trying to figure out when it ever left is quite the riddle though. :P

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[quote=GTripp0012;365280]Don't forget the Bucs, 12th. That team has been playing great football and Garcia is having a pro bowl caliber year. They are probably the best team in the NFC right now.

That said, the NFC East has produced 4 of the best 6 teams in the conference through the first quarter of the season. So by definition, I guess that makes it back.

Trying to figure out when it ever left is quite the riddle though. :P[/quote]The Bucs don't scare me at all. They haven't played any tough teams yet with the exception of Indy, who took them behind the woodshed. That said, after looking at their schedule they have a much easier road than the Skins. That's the benefit of playing in a very weak NFC South. I really like the Skins chances in TB on 11/25 as long as the O-line isn't further decimated, and Sean Taylor doesn't spit on anybody.

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[quote=SouperMeister;365286]The Bucs don't scare me at all. They haven't played any tough teams yet with the exception of Indy, who took them behind the woodshed. That said, after looking at their schedule they have a much easier road than the Skins. That's the benefit of playing in a very weak NFC South. I really like the Skins chances in TB on 11/25 as long as the O-line isn't further decimated, and Sean Taylor doesn't spit on anybody.[/quote]


I really do hate the Bucs. I think Pittman is hurt too.

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[B]Cowboys[/B] - toughest road yet still ahead. After their bye next week, the Cowboys have a stretch of games where 5 of their remaining 9 games are against division rivals. 3 of those 5 division games are road games. Not to mention that the combined record of the teams Dallas has played thus far is 7-22, the combined record of their remaining opponents......24-20! If the Cowboys beat the Vikes in Texas Stadium this weekend, they enter the bye at 6-1, and can keep that one game cushion they will need over the Giants. If the Vikes pull the upset, then Dallas in all probability, will end thier bye week TIED for the div lead with the Giants and will have to play the G-Men in the Meadowlands. But if they are 6-1 at the bye, realistically Dallas can go 5-4 on the last half of the season to finish 11-5.

[B]Giants[/B]- The hottest team in the NFC right now with 4 consecutive wins. But they opened up the season strong last year only to fade in the last half. If they keep momentum they will be tough. They started the season pretty banged up at key positions, but they are starting to get those people back healthy and in time for a strong second half playoff push.

[B]Redskins[/B] - What team is going to show up? 6 of the last 9 road games dating back to last season, this team went into the locker room at halftime with the lead. But left those stadiums with a mark in the "L" colomn at the end of the 4th qtr. This is a defense that has given up only 5 TD's in five games, and are as good as any defense to take the field. The Redskins have to show they can finish off an opponent before anyone truly takes them seriously.

[B]Eagles[/B] - They squeaked out a win on the Jets this past weekend, but this is clearly not the same team that dominated the NFC East for so many years and went to 4straight NFC title games. Anyone else notice that even though the Jets lost, they were able to move the ball pretty much at will and made several trips inside the 20? NOt sure what to think about this team, but rumors of McNabb leaving at the end of the year and more rumors about Andy Reid moving on may be too much of a distraction. But in thier stretch of losses compared to the games they have won this season there is one major difference. BRIAN WESTBROOK. in those games that Westbrook missed due to injury, the Eagles lost. But in those games where Westbrook played...they win.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;365296][B]Cowboys[/B] - toughest road yet still ahead. After their bye next week, the Cowboys have a stretch of games where 5 of thier remaining 9 games are against division rivals. 3 of those 5 division games are road games. If the Cowboys beat the Vikes in Texas Stadium this weekend, they enter the bye at 6-1, and can keep that one game cushion they will need over the Giants. If the Vikes pull the upset, then Dallas in all probability, will end thier bye week TIED for the div lead with the Giants and will have to play the G-Men in the Meadowlands. But if they are 6-1 at the bye, realistically Dallas can go 5-4 on the last half of the season to finish 11-5.

[B]Giants[/B]- The hottest team in the NFC right now with 4 consecutive wins. But they opened up the season strong last year only to fade in the last half. If they keep momentum they will be tough. They started the season pretty banged up at key positions, but they are starting to get those people back healthy and in time for a strong second half playoff push.

[B]Redskins[/B] - What team is going to show up? 6 of the last 9 road games dating back to last season, this team went into the locker room at halftime with the lead. But left those stadiums with a mark in the "L" colomn at the end of the 4th qtr. This is a defense that has given up only 5 TD's in five games, and are as good as any defense to take the field. The Redskins have to show they can finish off an opponent before anyone truly takes them seriously.

[B]Eagles[/B] - They squeaked out a win on the Jets this past weekend, but this is clearly not the same team that dominated the NFC East for so many years and went to 4straight NFC title games. Anyone else notice that even though the Jets lost, they were able to move the ball pretty much at will and made several trips inside the 20? NOt sure what to think about this team, but rumors of McNabb leaving at the end of the year and more rumors about Andy Reid moving on may be too much of a distraction. But in thier stretch of losses compared to the games they have won this season there is one major difference. BRIAN WESTBROOK. in those games that Westbrook missed due to injury, the Eagles lost. But in those games where Westbrook played...they win.[/quote]

I like, I like...

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[quote=12thMan;365208]Sorry Rich, my thread so that makes the Skins better.[/quote]
You are 100% correct.. my apologies

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It bothers me that for the 2nd straight year, we failed to put the Giants in a significant early season hole when the opportunity was there. Gibbs stubbornly played into their hands by not exploiting a weak Giants secondary either time. I'm afraid that the meeting in Jersey will just be another loss if we insist on running the ball after GB and Dallas gave everyone a blueprint for attacking the Giants D via the pass.

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Redskins are only 11 points from being undefeated. I am concerned about the O line injuries.

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We may have lost to GB, but there's no way you can convince me they are a better team.

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I don't think that any teams in the East is better than any other teams right now. The Cowboys are playing big-time football (Com'on, it was New England that beat them.) Skins and Giants are starting to show more life and the ability to win games, but I'm not overly convinced that we are a top team in the NFC no matter what the record says. We are without a doubt 100% better than last year, but that's like saying were the head cashier at Wal-Mart. Sounds good, but don't mean anything.
We are a top 10 NFL team, and could be higher, we just need to find a way to win more of the close ones.

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[quote=Mattyk72;365477]We may have lost to GB, but there's no way you can convince me they are a better team.[/quote]


Agreed. I really do feel the top three teams are in the NFC East. I don't think I was being too homerish.

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[quote=hagams;365482]Skins and Giants are starting to show more life and the ability to win games[/quote]

No disrespect intended, I concur with the Giants statement, but how can you justify your statement that the Skins "are starting to show more life and the ability to win games" when they have lost 2 of thier last 3 games? Not to mention they were leading at halftime in those 2 losses.

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[quote=Mattyk72;365477]We may have lost to GB, but there's no way you can convince me they are a better team.[/quote]

agreed 100% with this, if we played them 2 more times, we would win both. im sure of it.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;365485]No disrespect intended, I concur with the Giants statement, but how can you justify your statement that the Skins "are starting to show more life and the ability to win games" when they have lost 2 of thier last 3 games? Not to mention they were leading at halftime in those 2 losses.[/quote]


you have a point but let me explain. the skins defense has been outstanding especially the last few games. our offense looked terrible last week againsed green bay but dont expect santana moss to ever have a game like that again. a very bad game, but yes the skins are improving.

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[quote=Mattyk72;365477]We may have lost to GB, but there's no way you can convince me they are a better team.[/quote]

I think what tends to happen is we all think our team is better than what they really are. If we were a really good team (this includes coaching too) we don't blow a 14 point lead at home to the NYG. Good teams simply don't do that. Good teams don't drop passes that kill drives. Good teams don't struggle with a bad Miami team at home. Good teams don't constantly fumble. Good teams don't burn timeouts in the 2nd half of games to think about what play to run on 4th down.

Honestly, right now, we are just an average football team. I know people don't want to hear it but it's the truth and sometimes the truth hurts. With that being said if we can cut out the stupid mistakes then we can be a good team and maybe even a playoff team.

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Good teams do lose games to lesser opponents on occassion, I think people tend to forget that at times.

Other than the fumble return for a TD and that big pass play to Lee, the Packers did absolutely nothing all day.

As for the Giants I think we're starting to see that their 0-2 start was more of a fluke than anything.

The Skins beat themselves last week. I simply don't buy that Green Bay is a better team.

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[quote=skinsfan69;365527]I think what tends to happen is we all think our team is better than what they really are. If we were a really good team (this includes coaching too) we don't blow a 14 point lead at home to the NYG. Good teams simply don't do that. Good teams don't drop passes that kill drives. Good teams don't struggle with a bad Miami team at home. Good teams don't constantly fumble. Good teams don't burn timeouts in the 2nd half of games to think about what play to run on 4th down.

Honestly, right now, we are just an average football team. I know people don't want to hear it but it's the truth and sometimes the truth hurts. With that being said if we can cut out the stupid mistakes then we can be a good team and maybe even a playoff team.[/quote]But we are still VERY good at throwing the football. Drops happen in a game of football. Sometimes it happens more than others. Sometimes, the timing of plays are disrupted consistently by one player (in this case, Kampman) and it throws off the entire rhythm of the offense.

Few teams have LEs as good as Kampman and it was clear that neither Wade nor Heyer could handle him on that day.

How many teams are we going to play this year that will break down our pass pro the way Kampman did? Speed rushers have done crap against us this year. They try to go around Samuels and he makes them look foolish. They get out of their lanes, and Campbell escapes.

We don't play Tennessee, we don't play Kansas City, we don't play Pittsburgh. Do you think NE is going to get a bunch of pressure against us? I doubt it. Campbell has to make it his job to not leave the pocket just because it helped against GB. Makes the throw longer and disrupts the timing of the routes.

Moss will rebound if he's healthy, no doubt about it.

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[quote=Mattyk72;365530]The Skins beat themselves last week. I simply don't buy that Green Bay is a better team.[/quote]In addition, I think I team can beat itself without acutally playing bad.

In a game in which not a lot of points are scored, a few fluky plays can decide a game. That's why I am generally a proponent of big passing offense. I don't like to leave the outcome of a game to chance.

Although the passing offense is the [I]strength[/I] of our team, we are still a pretty balanced offense. We just don't generate big plays in the running game.

In this case, two plays were enough to do us in, when all the other actions that occured in that game would have resulted in a Redskin win. Did we get any fluky plays to fall our way? Well some calls in the end zone on that Green Bay drive went for us, but nothing like the unfortuante inability to not ever recover a fumble.

Not only is this stuff correctable, but it doesn't really even need to be corrected. We just need to keep playing like we have been and good things will happen. Holding on to the ball doesn't hurt though.

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[quote=Mattyk72;365530]Good teams do lose games to lesser opponents on occassion, I think people tend to forget that at times.

Other than the fumble return for a TD and that big pass play to Lee, the Packers did absolutely nothing all day.

As for the Giants I think we're starting to see that their 0-2 start was more of a fluke than anything.

The Skins beat themselves last week. I simply don't buy that Green Bay is a better team.[/quote]

As a Skins fan, I don't think Green Bay is a better team either. But they are two games in front of us, and are 3-0 against our division. Like it or not, right now they are better.

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[quote=GTripp0012;365630]...
In a game in which not a lot of points are scored, a few fluky plays can decide a game. That's why I am generally a proponent of big passing offense. I don't like to leave the outcome of a game to chance.
...
[/quote]Tripp, I believe you're onto something there. With Gibbs's conservative approach, there is [I]very little[/I] margin for error. Only occasionally do we score more than 2 TDs in a game anymore, so giving one up on offense or special teams is usually a killer.

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[quote=12thMan;365203]

[B][B]The New York Giants: 4-2[/B] [/B]The Giants, in my mind, could be the scariest team, not just in the NFC, but in all of football. At the beginning of the season I picked them to finish dead last, but carefully hedged myself by saying this is a team easily capable of winning it all - and I still believe that. .[/quote]

That's funny as hell to me. They could be the scariest team in all of football, yet you picked them to finish "dead last," but "carefully hedged by saying they are [B]easily[/B] capable of winning it all." HUH??????? Doesn't make much sense to me.

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[quote=GMScud;365674]That's funny as hell to me. They could be the scariest team in all of football, yet you picked them to finish "dead last," but "carefully hedged by saying they are [B]easily[/B] capable of winning it all." HUH??????? Doesn't make much sense to me.[/quote]


[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/19000-12ths-2007-nfc-east-predictions.html[/URL]

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[quote=12thMan;365676][URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/19000-12ths-2007-nfc-east-predictions.html[/URL][/quote]

So basically all the talent but none of the chemistry in the locker room among players and coaches? Okay, I can see that.
Unfortunately our stinkin 2nd half collapse against them in our house has spurred a 4 game winning streak. Damn.

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[quote=GMScud;365678]So basically all the talent but none of the chemistry in the locker room among players and coaches? Okay, I can see that.
Unfortunately our stinkin 2nd half collapse against them in our house has spurred a 4 game winning streak. Damn.[/quote]

Pretty much. And that's what makes them scary. If the locker room doesn't become a headline every week, the Giants could be hard to beat when they just play football.

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agree with matty here...we lose to green bay, but we are the better team...got unlucky with drops (both Offensively and defensively)...the D looks good. we will start winning again...starting sunday.

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[quote=chrisl4064;365502]you have a point but let me explain. the skins defense has been outstanding especially the last few games. our offense looked terrible last week againsed green bay but dont expect santana moss to ever have a game like that again. a very bad game, but yes the skins are improving.[/quote]

I have no arguement with the defense, to surrender only 5 TD's in 5 games is outstanding.

You wanna know why the defense was SO dominating against the Lions? That huge number your offense put on the board.

The way the offense played against Detroit enabled the defense to play RELAXED in the second half and just MAKE PLAYS. I'll go even further and say that the defense was just plain HAVING FUN playing football!

But when the score is so close in the second half, defenses take fewer risks and lack agressiveness. A short lead puts added pressure on the defense to keep the team in the game, they take fewer aggresive risks on plays. It is like they are playing "not to lose" instead of "playing to win".

Not blaming the defense here, not at all. But the offense needs to be more consistent to take some of that pressure off of the defense.

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[quote=GTripp0012;365624]But we are still VERY good at throwing the football. Drops happen in a game of football. Sometimes it happens more than others. Sometimes, the timing of plays are disrupted consistently by one player (in this case, Kampman) and it throws off the entire rhythm of the offense.

Few teams have LEs as good as Kampman and it was clear that neither Wade nor Heyer could handle him on that day.

How many teams are we going to play this year that will break down our pass pro the way Kampman did? Speed rushers have done crap against us this year. They try to go around Samuels and he makes them look foolish. They get out of their lanes, and Campbell escapes.

We don't play Tennessee, we don't play Kansas City, we don't play Pittsburgh. Do you think NE is going to get a bunch of pressure against us? I doubt it. Campbell has to make it his job to not leave the pocket just because it helped against GB. Makes the throw longer and disrupts the timing of the routes.

Moss will rebound if he's healthy, no doubt about it.[/quote]

Like I said, good teams catch the ball in crucial situations. Some of those balls were right in ARE and Moss' hands and they just didn't catch the ball. This has been going on all year. These are the guys that are getting paid alot of $. Plax. Burress doesn't practice all week and comes in and he is killing people.

Good teams make the adjustments and have someone stay in and help out on Kampman. I didn't see anyone helping Wade or Heyer. Why didn't we make an adjustment in that situation? If you have a rookie FA LT coming in to play RT on a top pass rusher who was killing Wade, common sense tells me Heyer might need a little help. Don't ya think? Send 4 guys out in the pattern and have a back stay in and help out. These are things our high priced coaching staff should have easily figured out.

Also all the confusion on the sidelines is just silly. How much more of this do we have to look at? We are always burning time outs in the 2nd half of games when we shouldn't be. Gibbs use to be the master at all this stuff and now he just doesn't do a damn thing. IMO Sanders needs to be on the sidelines calling the plays. I think that would help out a little bit.

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[quote=skinsfan69;365739]Good teams make the adjustments and have someone stay in and help out on Kampman. I didn't see anyone helping Wade or Heyer. Why didn't we make an adjustment in that situation? If you have a rookie FA LT coming in to play RT on a top pass rusher who was killing Wade, common sense tells me Heyer might need a little help. Don't ya think? Send 4 guys out in the pattern and have a back stay in and help out. These are things our high priced coaching staff should have easily figured out.[/quote]Sometimes you just have to trust your guy to get the job done. Saunders playbook may be seven hundred pages thick, but like every other coach, he's limited to the amount he can put in for a game by the amount of practice time he has. If 50% of the gameplan relies on Cooley attacking the defense, then he loses 50% of the gameplan by keeping him in to help Heyer/Wade.

We were pretty successful in protecting the QB when we helped on Kampman, but then no one was getting open (either that or Campbell missed them). It's sort of a double edged sword. The best way to approach it is to mix it up like we did and help Heyer sometimes, but not to often. As long as you keep them off balance, you give yourself a chance to be successful even when you have a matchup deficiency.

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Speaking of the NFC East, I just realized (looking on the team site) we've fallen to third place. NY looks friggin awesome right now between their wicked pass rush on D and a pretty high-powered offense. I think we're facing another '06 type season where we get swept by the bastards up north (except this year we're more than likely to be swept by Dallas too). Uggh.

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Just thought I would refresh this thread. The NFC EAST is 14 - 5 and only 1 loss outside the division. How tough is that??

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"Forensic posting" always freaks me out. I'm like, NFC East back??? What F...n moron posted........ohhhhh, 2007

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LOL ... uh yes we are all very good.. the nfc east has been back for awhile...

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I didn't know it ever left.

The SB champs will have to go through the NFC East IMO. Maybe, just maybe....well you know. DC to Tampa

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[quote=Hog1;486285]"Forensic posting" always freaks me out. I'm like, NFC East back??? What F...n moron posted........ohhhhh, 2007[/quote]

LMAO digging up the archives?!!!

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i think the 4 best teams in the nfc are in the nfc east,and everybody else in the conference is way the hell behind them.i think the afc is really week.if the titans are the best team they have,the nfc does'nt have much to worry about.