Can we beat the Jets?
 

Can Redskins beat Jets?
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In my opinion we really need to do something with this offense it stinks to high hell.Trust me Belliturd is on the phone with Mangini his former coordinator on what to do to rattle Campbell.In my opinion Joe Gibbs needs to stop handcuffing Campbell and let him him use his athleticicm and instincts to make plays.Gibbs is too conservative and needs to go back to Nascar.I bet we would do good if Gregg Williams was the head coach i just think Gibbs is done.The game has passed him by.In my opinion Al saunders has been nothing but a beast when he was with Kansas City chiefs but Joe gibbs keeps getting in the way.We should have benched Moss after the Packers game the guy is not 100% i would play Mccardell.And why in the hell is Brandon lloyd still with the team.We will never get it right.Its time for a new head coach.We were truly outcoached in New England and got our asses kicked.Joe Gibbs has no balls.NY jets 24 Washington 14

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are you a redskins fan? the last time i checked, the skins are 4-3, the jets 1-7. i am still a believer, Washington 28- jets 7

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Redskins 21

Jets 17

We win, but we are going to be watching the same brand of football.

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[quote=angryssg;371284]Redskins 21

Jets 17

We win, but we are going to be watching the same brand of football.[/quote]

I agree. We can beat the Jets but we need to play more agressively on offense.

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Washington 23
Jets 26
sad but we may run our course as far as leaning on our D, I hate to say this, but I think Gibbs must go next year, go to the front office and bring Cower in or Give GW the job, but I was watching the game, instead of trying the run, run, pass, how about just come out in 4-5 wr set, and just pass the first 15-20 plays, and then mix some runs in there, we didnt suprise anyone,......except the world, on how bad we really were....

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[quote=spurriercoles9;371272]In my opinion we really need to do something with this offense it stinks to high hell.Trust me Belliturd is on the phone with Mangini his former coordinator on what to do to rattle Campbell.[/quote]

I'm quite sure that Belichick and Mangini aren't exchanging polite phone calls at this point. In case you forgot, Mangini is the one who squealed about the videotape cheating, which was retaliation for Belichick not shaking his hand after their first meeting as head coaches.

But don't let that stop the run-on sentence :laughing2

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The Jets are a very similar team to ours. They outrank us or are equal to us in most offensive categories, including passer rating, big pass plays (>25 yard), passing yards per game, passing TD's, rushing yards (we have a slight edge here of maybe 10 yards), rush yards per carry, and so on.

They give up about 70 yards more per game of total offense than we do. We have a pair of picks more than they do and twice as many sacks.

The big X-Factor is going to be Clemens. We should be able to rattle a QB with even less experience than our own, especially if Coles is still on the shelf.

I think we win this one, but ugly. 13-6.

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[quote=spurriercoles9;371272]In my opinion we really need to do something with this offense it stinks to high hell.Trust me Belliturd is on the phone with Mangini his former coordinator on what to do to rattle Campbell.In my opinion Joe Gibbs needs to stop handcuffing Campbell and let him him use his athleticicm and instincts to make plays.Gibbs is too conservative and needs to go back to Nascar.I bet we would do good if Gregg Williams was the head coach i just think Gibbs is done.The game has passed him by.In my opinion Al saunders has been nothing but a beast when he was with Kansas City chiefs but Joe gibbs keeps getting in the way.We should have benched Moss after the Packers game the guy is not 100% i would play Mccardell.And why in the hell is Brandon lloyd still with the team.We will never get it right.Its time for a new head coach.We were truly outcoached in New England and got our asses kicked.Joe Gibbs has no balls.NY jets 24 Washington 14[/quote]


All this coming from a guy named Spurriercoles? come on....

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If the Redskins lose this one you should be extremely worried about the rest of the season.

And no way Man-gina is on the phone with Belicheat about anything unless it is a verbal confrontation. The two put on painted smiles for the media, but in reality despise one-another immensely. Belicheat feels Man-gina betrayed him by going to a division rival at the Jets, and Man-gina is the guy who reported Belicheat for the infamous "spy-cameras".

The Jets have benched Pennington in favor of Clemmons. Not because Clemmons is the savior and will deliver them to the playoffs. At 1-7, the Jets have already conceded thier season and are putting thier new young QB in for the rest of the year to get him "game time" expeirence for the rest of the season. The Pennington era is over in New York, Clemmons is thier QB of the future and the job is his to lose for the next several seasons.

With that in mind, the Redskins defense should be able to feast easily on the Jets offense. Greg Williams is going to bring the house all day long and force the inexperienced QB into rash and devestating mistakes.

The offense just needs to take care of the ball and make sustained drives. I think that Cooley is what will spark the offense and they need to get the ball in his hands early and often. To be honest, he has been, to this point, the most reliable receiver on the team, and him catching and getting yards after the catch will help Campbells confidence tremendously.

But IF the Redskins falter against the Jets, then one would be hard pressed not to concede that this team is not who they thought, or advertised themselves to be.

Redskins win big this time:

Wash - 28
Jets - 9

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we should, and i say should handle the jets very convincingly.

that being said, i wouldnt personally put any money on this game.

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Of course we can beat the Jets, in fact we sure as hell better beat the Jets! If we lose, the wheels are officially coming off on the season.

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[quote=Mattyk72;371357]Of course we can beat the Jets, in fact we sure as hell better beat the Jets! If we lose, the wheels are officially coming off on the season.[/quote]Not necessarily.

You have three games coming up. @ New York Jets, PHILADELPHIA, and @ Dallas.

If I told you that as a fan, you could assign two wins and one loss to those three games (a reasonable expectation), which game would you assign the loss to?

Thought so.

Now, in reality it doesn't work like that, but all I'm saying is road losses outside of conference only help you get tiebreakers. To prevent the season from slipping away, we need to beat our division opponents.

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The last defense Kellen Clemens faced as a starter was Baltimore, for which he had the Jets in position to win until a last second INT deep in Ravens' territory. Skins defense is now without one of it's starters in the secondary, and injuries among the LBs. Belicheck showed the rest of the NFL what the Lions, Cardinals and Packers couldn't do...beat G-Dub's deep zone.

As much confidence as I have in the Skins to win, this is one of those games that can bite right square in the ass if the team isn't careful. G-Dub is going to have to rattle Clemens' cage a bit, while focusing on short and intermediate passing. I think Taylor and Landry can play centerfield all day, with Coles nursing a calf injury. Thomas Jones is having a decent year on the ground, but hasn't found paydirt yet.

The Skins offense is going to have to overcome a shaky line and blow open holes for Portis and Betts to run through. Sellers needs the ball more, and Campbell is going to have to find Moss and ARE deep a few times.

I'm very fearful of this game. This is a make or break game for the Skins, even though a loss puts them at 4-4, it's a long uphill battle the rest of the way. Momentum from this game will have to carry them through Philly, Dallas, Tampa and into Buffalo.

No predictions as of yet, but I have a bad feeling this game is going to be ugly.

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Of course the season isn't over with a loss against the Jets, but if we can't beat a 1-7 team the outlook on the much tougher games down the road won't be that great. This is a game we should win, and need to win to keep pace. We need to handle our business against the Jets and start to get this offense back on track.

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can we beat the Jets?? absolutely. Can we lose to the Jets?? absolutely. It depends on the mind set of this team. Joe Gibbs is so laid back and non confrontational so someone else is going to have to get these guys fired up and ready to know someones head off. Buges maybe, Williams will have the D ready to rumble, no doubt. I hope this team comes out with the mentality to strike and strike quickly. We need to take the life out of them quick. Switching to a new QB that every one in Jets land loves will give them and extra burst and a little spark. I would love to see GW go after him, blitzing like crazy but I just dont see that happening. He hasn't done it all year when we all thought he would. Nothing makes me think he will this week. With the secondary so banged up, I would tend to send a lot more pressure so the corners are not forced to cover for 5 seconds. I feel if your secondary (corners) are banged up or not that good, you mask that by bringing a lot of pressure in the QB's face. Force him to make quick decisions. But thats my opinion, that is why I work for a software company, and not an NFL team.

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I don't know if we can or not. As I've said in other posts...Yes, we are definitely hindered by the injuries the team has suffered, and that didn't get any better this past weekend. However, face it, we just aren't anything more than an average football team right now, and that is only thanks to our defense. If our defense wasn't as good as it has been so far, we wouldn't even be considered average. We'd probably be 1-7 just like the Jets. The offense just stinks.

All that being said, if we beat the Jets..."IF"... then we'll be two back of Dallas and we still play them twice. Playoffs are a possibility since we are in the weak NFC, but if you think this team would last more than a week in the post season, I want some of what you are smoking.

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Our defense is about to run in to some major problems.

We've been excellent against slot receivers and 2nd receivers this year. Well, that was Carlos more times than not.

Lets say Smoot comes in and plays the pass with no dropoff? Who covers the slot? Prioleau? We can't continue to be no. 1 against slot receivers like that.

We've been one of the best rushing D's in the league thus far. But NE figured out how to beat us, put the slot receiver on Fletcher and attack Andre Carter to get outside.

Well, guess which CB that play would go at?

Outside runs are about to get real messy for this team, and Landry is going to see a lot more time in the box. That means that Taylor will get tested a lot and have a lot more ground to cover.

I don't think we have an elite defense anymore without Carlos Rogers. Still capable, yes. But if teams start to attack this D like they did last year's D, they will find some success.

Here's the good news: The offense is at it's season low point. It's only going to get healthier and better from here on out. Campbell is due to go off on someone.

But my crystal ball looks iffy for this game.

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we will beat the jets. they are losers....we aren't going to help them change that.

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We not only can. WE WILL! This will be a statement game for us, we will win this one BIG! All the PRIDE of this team is on the line.

We will step it up, and get the job done.

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The win over the Jets will compare to the Giants win over Miami. Absolutely lopsided on paper, but Gibbs has this team unprepared after half-time for the last three weeks. I don't see any anger or key players voicing their opinion about the dilemmas' with this team. I never thought I would see a team with so much talent and money at it's expense barely able to score 21 points per game. It's a shame and Joe Gibbs doesn't have the answer. His accountability as a coach is really on trial.

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My personal feeling is...this thread should be locked.

-We already have a thread about the upcoming Jets game
[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/20551-time-for-the-jets.html[/url]

-"Can We Beat the Jets" was the thread title but didn't seem to have anything to do with the first post. It seems that it was just an excuse to toss up this video

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Kellen Clemens at QB scares me a lot more than Chad Pennington. If the Skins don't have enough to win this game, then they don't deserve to go to the postseason. Good teams that consider themselves contenders beat up on bad teams like the Jets. For once, if we get a two TD lead, can Gibbs let Saunders keep his foot on the accelerator? Just for once.

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[quote=SouperMeister;371424]Kellen Clemens at QB scares me a lot more than Chad Pennington. If the Skins don't have enough to win this game, then they don't deserve to go to the postseason. Good teams that consider themselves contenders beat up on bad teams like the Jets. For once, if we get a two TD lead, can Gibbs let Saunders keep his foot on the accelerator? Just for once.[/quote]


Surely you're not talking about running up the score...

Actually, I was laughing while I typed that. Run up the score....how 'bout score.

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we will beat the jets and everyone will be back on the bandwagon. The Jets are horrible and when we beat them it will be nothing to brag about especially when the score about 17-10

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[quote=BDBohnzie;371364]
No predictions as of yet, but I have a bad feeling this game is going to be ugly.[/quote]
I think it is going to be ugly too, but for the Jets. The young and inexperienced QB is on a date with pain and misery this Sunday. Did he pick the wrong time to play an angry Redskins D or what?

I think the defense will come out firing on all cylinders and dominate this game after that embarrassment up in NE.

It will also be nice to watch the game with Moss and Coles playing for two teams as both receivers played for both teams at some point. I really think that Coles is very underrated player. I remember the game when he played for the Skins against Dallas and had a dislocated finger but kept playing [B]and catching[/B]. Whatever happened to players like that, ones who actually want to play?

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We can beat the Jets just as easily as we can lose to them. As long as we bounce back mentally from that beat down in NE I think we will be just fine. The Jets are benching Chad Pennington too this week I believe.

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[quote=TheBigD;371607]I think it is going to be ugly too, but for the Jets. The young and inexperienced QB is on a date with pain and misery this Sunday. Did he pick the wrong time to play an angry Redskins D or what?

I think the defense will come out firing on all cylinders and dominate this game after that embarrassment up in NE.

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I Agree BigD;

I think one of Campbell's strengths is that he comes back from adversity. We've seen it after he's thrown interceptions, and now we will see what he can do after a disheartening loss.

I wouldn't want to have ST or London looking to avenge personal demons next week if I was on the other side of the line.


IMHO

J-Dawg

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;371310]If the Redskins lose this one you should be extremely worried about the rest of the season.

And no way Man-gina is on the phone with Belicheat about anything unless it is a verbal confrontation. The two put on painted smiles for the media, but in reality despise one-another immensely. Belicheat feels Man-gina betrayed him by going to a division rival at the Jets, and Man-gina is the guy who reported Belicheat for the infamous "spy-cameras".

The Jets have benched Pennington in favor of Clemmons. Not because Clemmons is the savior and will deliver them to the playoffs. At 1-7, the Jets have already conceded thier season and are putting thier new young QB in for the rest of the year to get him "game time" expeirence for the rest of the season. The Pennington era is over in New York, Clemmons is thier QB of the future and the job is his to lose for the next several seasons.

With that in mind, the Redskins defense should be able to feast easily on the Jets offense. Greg Williams is going to bring the house all day long and force the inexperienced QB into rash and devestating mistakes.

The offense just needs to take care of the ball and make sustained drives. I think that Cooley is what will spark the offense and they need to get the ball in his hands early and often. To be honest, he has been, to this point, the most reliable receiver on the team, and him catching and getting yards after the catch will help Campbells confidence tremendously.

But IF the Redskins falter against the Jets, then one would be hard pressed not to concede that this team is not who they thought, or advertised themselves to be.

Redskins win big this time:

Wash - 28
Jets - 9[/QUOTE]

I love correcting Dallas fans!
GW will not blitz this guy...he doesn't blitz anyone anymore...and now with Rodgers hurt.....hes gunna play back and try to get picks

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;371365][COLOR="Red"]Of course the season isn't over with a loss against the Jets,[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

I completely disagree...
It is early, true...but if we dont win this game...I guarantee the season is over.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;371310]If the Redskins lose this one you should be extremely worried about the rest of the season.

And no way Man-gina is on the phone with Belicheat about anything unless it is a verbal confrontation. The two put on painted smiles for the media, but in reality despise one-another immensely. Belicheat feels Man-gina betrayed him by going to a division rival at the Jets, and Man-gina is the guy who reported Belicheat for the infamous "spy-cameras".

The Jets have benched Pennington in favor of Clemmons. Not because Clemmons is the savior and will deliver them to the playoffs. At 1-7, the Jets have already conceded thier season and are putting thier new young QB in for the rest of the year to get him "game time" expeirence for the rest of the season. The Pennington era is over in New York, Clemmons is thier QB of the future and the job is his to lose for the next several seasons.

With that in mind, the Redskins defense should be able to feast easily on the Jets offense. Greg Williams is going to bring the house all day long and force the inexperienced QB into rash and devestating mistakes.

The offense just needs to take care of the ball and make sustained drives. I think that Cooley is what will spark the offense and they need to get the ball in his hands early and often. To be honest, he has been, to this point, the most reliable receiver on the team, and him catching and getting yards after the catch will help Campbells confidence tremendously.

But IF the Redskins falter against the Jets, then one would be hard pressed not to concede that this team is not who they thought, or advertised themselves to be.

Redskins win big this time:

Wash - 28
Jets - 9[/QUOTE]

Agreed. I would just add that, as I've stated earlier this week, it's really time to make McCardell a big part of this offense. I think he can take some off the pressure off the other receivers and maybe free things up for them to make plays.

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we have to win, period especially against a rookie QB

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Redskins 27
Jets 7

We are playing a team that is 1-7 against:
New England L
@Baltimore L
Miami W
@Buffalo L
@NY Giants L
Philadelphia L
@Cincinnatti L
Buffalo L

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I hope we can beat them otherwise our season is most definitely down the shitter.

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[quote=spurriercoles9;371272]In my opinion we really need to do something with this offense it stinks to high hell.Trust me Belliturd is on the phone with Mangini his former coordinator on what to do to rattle Campbell.In my opinion Joe Gibbs needs to stop handcuffing Campbell and let him him use his athleticicm and instincts to make plays.Gibbs is too conservative and needs to go back to Nascar.I bet we would do good if Gregg Williams was the head coach i just think Gibbs is done.The game has passed him by.In my opinion Al saunders has been nothing but a beast when he was with Kansas City chiefs but Joe gibbs keeps getting in the way.We should have benched Moss after the Packers game the guy is not 100% i would play Mccardell.And why in the hell is Brandon lloyd still with the team.We will never get it right.Its time for a new head coach.We were truly outcoached in New England and got our asses kicked.Joe Gibbs has no balls.NY jets 24 Washington 14[/quote]



I bet that sweatshirt wearing slob isnt gonna be talkin' to Mangini anytime soon... they hate each other... Bill-a-cheat hated him for leaving the team now that they got busted for cheating the week they played the J-E-T-S ... hmm Mangini have anything to do with that?!?!? hmmm


Skins - 34
Jets - 14

We own ball possession and pick Clemens 3 times ... put in backups after 3rd to show the Pats how to be classy ...

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[QUOTE=saden1;371709]I hope we can beat them otherwise our season is most definitely down the shitter.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that's necessarily true. Don't get me wrong, we'll definately be in serious trouble and losing to the Jets would be a huge confidence-killer. But, supposing we go to 4-4, we will need to win 5 of the remaining 8 games and, IMO, that will be tough but doable against the remaining teams on the schedule.

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Well if we don't Gibbs will be on a hot seat like he's never known! And rightly so.

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[quote=offiss;371765]Well if we don't Gibbs will be on a hot seat like he's never known! And rightly so.[/quote]It may shock you for me to say this but ....I agree.

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I hate to use this phrase...but this has the makings of a must win...as someone else said the wheels will offically come off this season if we dont come out fired up and win. This is the nfl as the old cliche goes...any given sunday. skins 28 jets 10. With our defense scoring at least one td.

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[QUOTE=vaoutlaws2006;371801]redskins fan in the heart of panther country. QUOTE]

How is Dale City the heart of panther country?
I live in Carolina, and this place still has recent memories of being Skins territory. There are lots of Skins fans here that watch the panthers and vice versa. Both sets of fans are usually ok with each other, especially due to Stephen Davis long ago and very similar styles of football.