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MTK 10-31-2007 09:52 AM

The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
Often imitated, never duplicated, it's the Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ.

Here's my take:
It's funny how the schedule can work out sometimes. One week it's the best team in the league, the next it's one of the worst. No apologies necessary, you can only play the teams on the schedule and this is a big game for the Skins. I don't care that the Jets are only 1-7, they are still dangerous. The Redskins need to refocus after getting bounced out of New England and start to get this offense back on track.

The Jets' defense currently ranks 29th overall in the league (26th against the pass, 27th against the run). No need to get fancy in this one, I would expect Saunders to try to get this running game on track and give the Jets a heavy dose of Portis and Betts. I think we'll see Betts worked into the mix more this week to try to spark the pathetic ground game. Campbell needs to be efficient and the WRs need to step up, make some big plays, and catch the damn ball.

I think the Skins 'D' is going to have a serious chip on their shoulders this week after getting shellacked last week. Clemens is going to have a long day ahead of him and I predict 2 INTs.

Overall I don't think it will be pretty, but this is a chance for the Skins to get some things going and gain some confidence back after last week's disaster.

Redskins 20
Jets 10

Old School 10-31-2007 09:59 AM

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There is no reason the skins will not win this game. i think it will be a opportunity for a statement game that they are better than what last week showed.

Southpaw 10-31-2007 10:03 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
I'll give Washington the benefit of the doubt, and assume that they've got enough pride to be pissed off about last weeks debacle and come out to make an example out of the Jets. I know the defense will be prepared, but I'm still iffy on the offense...

With Clemens making his first start of the season, I think that will work into the Redskins favor. If Washington takes an early lead, the kid will try to make plays with his arm, which will play right into Williams' hands. This game should get ugly in the Redskins favor, but I'll keep it conservative and call it:

Skins - 27
Jets - 10

P.S. If Washington sh*ts the bed this week against the hapless Jets... the season is over.

freddyg12 10-31-2007 10:04 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
A team w/high expectations after making the playoffs the year before w/a new coach, only to find that the defense falls to the bottom of the nfl & in midseason they bench the vet qb for an unproven youngster.

Sounds like the 06 Skins. Oh wait, it's the 07 Jets!

Skins 24
Jets 13

Not pretty & not easy, but we get at least & fumble & pick from the youngster qb & the O capitalizes just enough.

I am worried about this game, as the Offense is looking worse by the week. Even Samuels looked well below his usual self last week. Could it be that there are serious internal issues on that unit like we had on defense last year? Hope not.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-31-2007 10:08 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
CRAP! The reason we lost last week is because I didn't predict pain for the Pats.

This week: pain.

over the mountain 10-31-2007 10:14 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
my theory that the skins play down to the level of their opponent and thus lose an unhealthy percentage of easy games while stepping up their game when they play elite teams was blown out of the water last week . . . .

skins 17
jets 13

go skins!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-31-2007 10:15 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
I think this game is going to be closer than people think. Redskins 20, Jets 17.

Bozzy 10-31-2007 10:15 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
Well I said we would shut out Arizona and we almost lost... but I think we will be fired up from the patriots game, and Jets happen to be in the way.

Skins 27
Jets 6

firstdown 10-31-2007 10:26 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
Skins 42
Lions 3
We score twice in the 4th and run up the score.

Chief X_Phackter 10-31-2007 10:30 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
I really want to believe that Washington will bounce back and make a statement with this game. That is what absolutely needs to happen to get this season back on track and gain some confidence back after last weeks beat down. However, I just don't think it's going to happen, and this is why:

Too many injuries across the board
Too much inconsistency and lack of productivity on the offense
The defense has been used and abused all season
The game is on the road
The Jets are playing good football despite being 1-7 (all losses by 11 or less, four of them by one touchdown or less, and they were only two scores down from New England entering the fourth quarter).

Sorry, there are too many things to overcome against a good football team (despite the 1-7 record). I don't look for Washington to win this game.

Jets 24
Skins 13

EARTHQUAKE2689 10-31-2007 10:37 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
Redskins 27
Jets 14

firstdown 10-31-2007 10:47 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;371826]I really want to believe that Washington will bounce back and make a statement with this game. That is what absolutely needs to happen to get this season back on track and gain some confidence back after last weeks beat down. However, I just don't think it's going to happen, and this is why:

Too many injuries across the board
Too much inconsistency and lack of productivity on the offense
The defense has been used and abused all season
The game is on the road
The Jets are playing good football despite being 1-7 (all losses by 11 or less, four of them by one touchdown or less, and they were only two scores down from New England entering the fourth quarter).

Sorry, there are too many things to overcome against a good football team (despite the 1-7 record). I don't look for Washington to win this game.

Jets 24
Skins 13[/quote]
Sorry good teams are not 1-7 and why are you writing off our D after having 1 bad game?

davy 10-31-2007 10:55 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
Skins 17-16 Jets

dmek25 10-31-2007 10:56 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[quote=firstdown;371824]Skins 42
[B]Lions [/B]3
We score twice in the 4th and run up the score.[/quote]
what about this weeks game?

gibbsisgod 10-31-2007 10:57 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
The combined record of teams we beat: 11-18.Miami really makes this look bad but without them the opposing teams records are 11-10. Not great but middle of the pack teams that can beat anybody(except the Pats).

Combined record of teams we lost to: 20-3. Of course the Pats make ths number look better than it is but even withou them its still 12-3.


We are better than people are believing. I still think this team is good. We have had some shiity games and I think it gets better from here on out. I still think this team makes the playoffs.

That being said, Redskins 30, Jets 3(maybe 0).
Portis gets 100 yards finally but its mostly because the Jets run D is so bad. The problems dont get fixed in the run game until we get RT back. Hopefully the line can pull together late in the season as we make a push to & through the playoffs. Remember, All you gotta do is get to the dance, then anything can happen.

freddyg12 10-31-2007 11:01 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
I would love to see CP get 100, but for that matter, I'd love to see the team get 100+.

It's easy to look at the #s & say the Jets D is bad, but we've had plenty of games where the stat rankings would indicate that we should have a good day, but it doesn't happen. Actually, compare our O to their D. We #28 I believe, & they're 27. Pretty close.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-31-2007 11:02 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[QUOTE=gibbsisgod;371852]The combined record of teams we beat: 11-18.Miami really makes this look bad but without them the opposing teams records are 11-10. Not great but middle of the pack teams that can beat anybody(except the Pats).

Combined record of teams we lost to: 20-3. Of course the Pats make ths number look better than it is but even withou them its still 12-3.


We are better than people are believing. I still think this team is good. We have had some shiity games and I think it gets better from here on out. I still think this team makes the playoffs.

That being said, Redskins 30, Jets 3(maybe 0).
Portis gets 100 yards finally but its mostly because the Jets run D is so bad. The problems dont get fixed in the run game until we get RT back. Hopefully the line can pull together late in the season as we make a push to & through the playoffs. Remember, All you gotta do is get to the dance, then anything can happen.[/QUOTE]

I love it when people actually put thought and research into their posts. Posts like this make me love this site.

gibbsisgod 10-31-2007 11:04 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[quote=dmek25;371850]what about this weeks game?[/quote]
Morning D! I got your pm a while ago and have been real busy. I will get back to you soon.

Riggo44 10-31-2007 11:16 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
If we lose this game we are in big trouble. But I really don't see that happening. All the teams that have beat us are having great seasons. We'll handle the 1&7 Jets.
REDSKINS 28
Jets 10

Paintrain 10-31-2007 11:16 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
While the Redskins do play to the level of their opponents, there's no way I see the Jets beating us.. Clemens is making his first start of the year at QB, while we lose Rogers, Smoot is back and Washington is a week healthier and I'm sure Grilliams is out to send a message after getting 52 hung on his defense. This is the week the running game gets on track and (hopefully) opens up the offense a bit.. 24-13 Redskins.

hooskins 10-31-2007 11:19 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
Skins-20
Jets-14

Monkeydad 10-31-2007 11:47 AM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[quote=Mattyk72;371804]Often imitated, never duplicated, it's the Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ.
[/quote]


Scan the documentation from the Copyright office. I'd like to see that. :D




Skins 27
New Jersey Jets 10

Chief X_Phackter 10-31-2007 12:00 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[quote=firstdown;371838]Sorry good teams are not 1-7 and why are you writing off our D after having 1 bad game?[/quote]


I don't remember "writing off our D", I simply said that they have been used and abused all year. They have been on the field way too much because the offense can't get anything going (especially in the second halves). That takes a toll on a unit. Then when you throw in all the injuries and everything else I stated, it doesn't bode well.

And while 1-7 is not a good record, they are still a good football team.

I hope I'm wrong about my prediction, but that's the way I see it.

gibbsisgod 10-31-2007 12:04 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;371908]I don't remember "writing off our D", I simply said that they have been used and abused all year. They have been on the field way too much because the offense can't get anything going (especially in the second halves). That takes a toll on a unit. Then when you throw in all the injuries and everything else I stated, it doesn't bode well.

And while 1-7 is not a good record, they are still a good football team.

I hope I'm wrong about my prediction, but that's the way I see it.[/quote]I dont see the Jets as a good team. In fact, I think of them as horrible. They have NO running game. It has been that way since Curtis Martin got injured. They have no QB worthy of a starting job, and now their defense is playing bad. Their D was their strong point in seasons past and ths year they have been just plain BAD. Injuries have alot to do with their record but they are not a GOOD football team.

jbcjr14 10-31-2007 12:07 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
I think the Skins bounce back this week with a solid performance in all three phases of the game. I even think Torrence gets a pick 6 in this one!

Skins 27
Jets 13

skinsfan_nn 10-31-2007 12:26 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
We WILL make a statement this week....after getting our ASS kicked last week!

REDSKIN PRIDE!

SKINS= 31
jets= 9

GTripp0012 10-31-2007 12:31 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
This Jets team hasn't won since week 3.

The good news is that they still haven't had their bye yet. That gives us a good chance.

But as I've been saying about this week, it doesn't make me happy to put our chances against a 1-7 team down as "a good chance".

Our defense is no longer top tier without Carlos Rogers. The Jets will be able to move the ball against us, with greater ease on the ground than in the air.

To me, theres little doubt the passing game is going to get back on its feet soon. But how soon? If not by this week, we won't beat the Jets. This team is playing at full strength against us, who happens to be playing at half strength.

New York 20
Washington 17

Chief X_Phackter 10-31-2007 12:33 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[quote=gibbsisgod;371911]I dont see the Jets as a good team. In fact, I think of them as horrible. They have NO running game. It has been that way since Curtis Martin got injured. They have no QB worthy of a starting job, and now their defense is playing bad. Their D was their strong point in seasons past and ths year they have been just plain BAD. Injuries have alot to do with their record but they are not a GOOD football team.[/quote]


Well, we'll find out this weekend. Their offense is about as explosive as ours at this point, so it will probably come down to special teams and turnovers. And I give them the edge for being at home.

I think a lot of people will be surprised at how well the Jets stack up against us. Hopefully we'll do enough to win.

irish 10-31-2007 01:24 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
Last week we saw how far the Skins are from the top. This week we will see how far they are from the bottom. Unfortunately I dont think it all that far. That said, a win is a win.

Skins 12
Jets 10

RobH4413 10-31-2007 01:37 PM

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Jets 10
Redskins 14

The Jets may force LL up in the box to cover the underneath and stop the run. This will give the Jets young QB the opportunity to show up. No-one will watch more tape on Sean Taylor this week than Clemens, and Greg Williams needs to mix up his attack to avoid getting exploited. Disguise the defense, force Clemens read everything, and blitz the hell out of him.

If we can't run, than I don't think we should. We've got the WR's to spread the field... Campbell needs to be smart this week, even it means dink and dunk.

BrudLee 10-31-2007 01:47 PM

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We have holes. The Jets have more holes.

Redskins 24
Jets 9

Longtimefan 10-31-2007 02:08 PM

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My nails have grown, I'll grab a six pack sit back and watch the outcome. Predictions are hard to come by right now. The Redskins know what they have to do, but knowing what you have to do and getting it done are two different things.

Redskins 17
Jets 10

BDBohnzie 10-31-2007 02:16 PM

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.oO(Boy, how do I miss Brud's weekly breakdowns..)

This game will go a long way to see how much pride this Skins team really has, or if it was completely eaten by the Patriots monster.

Injuries have been a recurring factor this season. Without Rogers, it'll be up to Smoot and Torrance/Macklin to step up and cover the likes of Coles, Cotchery and McCareins. Kellen Clemens, making his 2nd NFL start, is going to rely heavily on Thomas Jones and Leon Washington to carry the ball. The last start, he almost beat a very good Ravens defense.

Portis and Betts need to take the pressure off of Campbell, and run the ball with wreckless abandon. Luckily for them, the Jets have the 27th ranked run defense (29th overall). I'd personally like to see Sellers in on short yardage situations, as he's a good receiver as well.

These games always scare me. Weak non-conference team on the schedule, losers of 5 straight, with a gun slinger coming off the bench, and absolutely nothing to lose. Meanwhile, the hometown heroes have a pivotal game on their hands, a win and 5-3 moves mountains, while a loss and 4-4 could provide destruction going into a very tough stretch of games.

The only game related prediction I'll make: Sean Taylor picks off Kellen Clemens late in the game to secure the win for the B&G.

Skins 16
Jets 12

mheisig 10-31-2007 05:09 PM

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Redskins - 24
Jets - 9

SUNRA 10-31-2007 05:48 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
The Redskins have a two-game winning streak starting with the first two games of the season. Winning and losing and winning and losing is pathetic and illustrates the basic fundamental issue I have with an unprepared team. Aside from the Patriots, I have not liked what I have seen with and what people have mentioned to me after going to the games. Jason Campbell to Cooley and Randle El has become the main targets and teams are adjusting to theses players after half time. with no consistent involvement of Caldwell, McCardell, and Lloyd have produced no TD's by any receiver this year. This team has become one dimensional and predictable. With that said, the Redskins win unconvincingly skins,17
jets10.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-31-2007 05:52 PM

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[QUOTE=SUNRA;372072]Winning and losing and winning and losing is pathetic and illustrates the basic fundamental issue I have with an unprepared team.[/QUOTE]

Applying that standard to the NFL, the only teams that are not pathetic are the Colts and the Patriots. Pretty high bar if you ask me.

SUNRA 10-31-2007 05:59 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;372073]Applying that standard to the NFL, the only teams that are not pathetic are the Colts and the Patriots. Pretty high bar if you ask me.[/QUOTE]

In our conference there is Green Bay and New York who have more than four consecutive wins. If the Redskins were really a well-coached team they would be 6-1 respectfully.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-31-2007 06:13 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[QUOTE=SUNRA;372075]In our conference there is Green Bay and New York who have more than four consecutive wins. If the Redskins were really a well-coached team they would be 6-1 respectfully.[/QUOTE]

Even still, expecting a 6-1 record is setting the bar rather high. Could we be 6-1? Sure, but I wouldn't put that all on the coaches.

The loss to Green Bay was undoubtedly the fault of the players, that is unless you blame Gibbs for Moss' inability to catch or hold onto balls, Portis' fumble, or several O-linemen getting injured. I also wouldn't put the loss to New England on the coaches as it seems that no one can beat them. It's questionable who should be blamed for the loss to the G-men. But, assuming the loss the G-men is on the coaches, that still means that the coaches have lost just 1 game for the team. So I am not quite sure why you are taking issue with the coaches if your sole concern is our record (as opposed to player and team stats).

SUNRA 10-31-2007 07:38 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;372077]Even still, expecting a 6-1 record is setting the bar rather high. Could we be 6-1? Sure, but I wouldn't put that all on the coaches.

The loss to Green Bay was undoubtedly the fault of the players, that is unless you blame Gibbs for Moss' inability to catch or hold onto balls, Portis' fumble, or several O-linemen getting injured. I also wouldn't put the loss to New England on the coaches as it seems that no one can beat them. It's questionable who should be blamed for the loss to the G-men. But, assuming the loss the G-men is on the coaches, that still means that the coaches have lost just 1 game for the team. So I am not quite sure why you are taking issue with the coaches if your sole concern is our record (as opposed to player and team stats).[/QUOTE]

My main point was with how unprepared and underutilized the team has been if you look at playcalling and a since of calling the dogs off when the offense has scored two touchdowns. It is clear that loss to the Giants was a reflection of a team who didn't know what to do with a unneccessary timeout and the wrong RB in background on the goal. I think this time around for Gibbs has been a challenge a lesson about adaption and adjustment. If you don't adapt, you will become extinct and that's what our offense has almost become.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-31-2007 07:46 PM

Re: The official Redskins Warpath prediction threadİ: Skins vs. Jets
 
[QUOTE=SUNRA;372092]My main point was with how unprepared and underutilized the team has been if you look at playcalling and a since of calling the dogs off when the offense has scored two touchdowns. It is clear that loss to the Giants was a reflection of a team who didn't know what to do with a unneccessary timeout and the wrong RB in background on the goal. I think this time around for Gibbs has been a challenge a lesson about adaption and adjustment. If you don't adapt, you will become extinct and that's what our offense has almost become.[/QUOTE]

I'll give you the Giants game as a reason to be unhappy with the coaches. But, if you only care about the W-L record, what other games are you unhappy about? You can't put the losses to Green Bay and New England on the coaches. The loss to Green Bay was squarely on the players and the loss to New England was all but inevitable.


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