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Well he said it was hard fought. Imagine that. He also said that he thinks the team wants to run the ball. Maybe Im wrong but Im sure he doesnt speak for the entire team. Last week Moss came close to saying what we all have been thinking. Pleaseeee pass more.

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296 and 6.2 YPC. I don't care how much we run when we do that.

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I agree BSB.

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I dont care if we rushed for 500,how can anyone be satisfied with the passing game. A win is a win true but we were up 3 and ran 8 straight times?

The year after Mark Ryp.held out and started sucking I remember playing the Vikings. We were on our 5 yd.line on 3rd and long. Well we ran the ball cause Ryp. lost the ability to throw. Cambell needs work but damn what an arm. Hes had some great throws so far. At least let him toss it once in 8 damn downs.

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[quote=Ocliw;373616]I dont care if we rushed for 500,how can anyone be satisfied with the passing game. [B]A win is a win true but we were up 3 and ran 8 straight times?[/B]

The year after Mark Ryp.held out and started sucking I remember playing the Vikings. We were on our 5 yd.line on 3rd and long. Well we ran the ball cause Ryp. lost the ability to throw. Cambell needs work but damn what an arm. Hes had some great throws so far. At least let him toss it once in 8 damn downs.[/quote]

Sure why not? It's not like they could stop it.

Regardless, a win is a win just like you said.

I'd like to see the passing game open up more but I'm pretty happy with the win and to be 5-3.

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Our passing game isn't great.

The run was working very well this game. Why are you gonna stray from what was gaining us yards? I can understand when we're down and the coaching start freaking and start throwing 2 out of 3 downs. We're halfway through the season and our WR core still don't have a TD.

Doesn't sound too comforting, eh? I just wouldn't take that risk on throwing to them when I don't have to.

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Last yr? Yr before? Not sure but anyway against the browns Portis said its like they knew what was coming next. Hell,in reading the game thread during the game most of us knew what was coming. If we as fans can predict with descent accuracy whats next you damn sure know the opposing team and coaches might have a clue. I agree stick with whats working. 8 runs in a row seems a little extreme tho. To make a long story longer we are just too damn predictable. Im sure its been discussed before. I apologize for beating a dead horse.

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[QUOTE=Ocliw;373648]Last yr? Yr before? Not sure but anyway against the browns Portis said its like they knew what was coming next. Hell,in reading the game thread during the game most of us knew what was coming. If we as fans can predict with descent accuracy whats next you damn sure know the opposing team and coaches might have a clue. I agree stick with whats working. 8 runs in a row seems a little extreme tho. To make a long story longer we are just too damn predictable. Im sure its been discussed before. I apologize for beating a dead horse.[/QUOTE]

You are beating a dead horse, especially when you keep repeating "8 runs in a row".

Remember, the Redskins were very predictable in the 80's, but nobody could stop them.

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[quote=Ocliw;373648][B]Last yr? Yr before?[/B] Not sure but anyway against the browns Portis said its like they knew what was coming next. Hell,in reading the game thread during the game most of us knew what was coming. If we as fans can predict with descent accuracy whats next you damn sure know the opposing team and coaches might have a clue. I agree stick with whats working. 8 runs in a row seems a little extreme tho. To make a long story longer we are just too damn predictable. Im sure its been discussed before. I apologize for beating a dead horse.[/quote]

:bdh:

But yeah it's this year we don't have any TDs. 8 runs is excessive I agree, but since it was working so well today, I'm not really bitching. If we were down or if we were losing, I'd probably be bitching though.

I cant understand why our receivers don't have any TDs. I think it was BleedBurgandy in the game thread that said he would love to look at tape of the WRs cause he didn't understand why they couldn't get more open (Don't quote me on that, cause I'm not too positive what he said exactly). But I would too. Come on. 8 games gone and no WR TDs? You can't blame JC. Especially when Thrash had one right in his mitts today. :doh:

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we need to have a passing game our> you cant win in the nfl with just running this isnt the 70's anymore. You have to atleast have the threat of a passing game. We ran the ball against one of the worst rushing defenses in the league. But with phil, dall etc your going to have to be able to get the ball down the field

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[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;373672]we need to have a passing game our> you cant win in the nfl with just running this isnt the 70's anymore. You have to atleast have the threat of a passing game. We ran the ball against one of the worst rushing defenses in the league. But with phil, dall etc your going to have to be able to get the ball down the field[/QUOTE]

Ditto...

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We have to have a greater effect with our passes before we can say we need to run more, it's a shame watching moss and randle el go to waste.

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[QUOTE=Campbell17;373691]We have to have a greater effect with our passes before we can say we need to run more, it's a shame watching moss and randle el go to waste.[/QUOTE]

Moss hinted 2 weeks ago without coming out and saying it he wished the coaches would let the players do what they do best. UR right. Its a damn shame.

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waste of money and talent if not used

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I thought the play calling was fine today. Campbell can't see the field very well at this point and is not making good decisions with the ball, so they went with a heavy formation and pounded it. The Redskins outscored them 20 - 3 after about the halfway point of the 2nd quarter.

Also, the running game set Campbell up with a great opportunity to throw the game winning TD pass which he missed. If the Redskins can run the ball like they did today the rest of the way, we will be fine.

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is it illegal to run play action pass on first down? if not, someone please tell Mr Saunders. overall, our running game was money today

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I'm more worried about our DB's covering, they let the Jets convert 3rd downs time after time. I would give our Defense a C- grade today and that's being generous. We were lucky the Jets receivers dropped a lot of balls.

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[QUOTE=Ocliw;373591]Well he said it was hard fought. Imagine that. He also said that he thinks the team wants to run the ball. Maybe Im wrong but Im sure he doesnt speak for the entire team. Last week Moss came close to saying what we all have been thinking. Pleaseeee pass more.[/QUOTE]

What else is a wide receiver going to say?

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[quote=SmootSmack;373843]What else is a wide receiver going to say?[/quote]
I agree 100% , if every player had what they want, we wouldn't win a single game, whatever is best for the team comes first.

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If we keep putting up 200+ rushing yards per game the passing game WILL open up, period.

Any opposing team facing a rushing attack like that will have no choice but to 7 or 8 in the box to try to stop it and the passing attack will open up just fine.

The question is, CAN we put up 200+ per game?

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[quote=70Chip;373699]I thought the play calling was fine today. Campbell can't see the field very well at this point and is not making good decisions with the ball, so they went with a heavy formation and pounded it. The Redskins outscored them 20 - 3 after about the halfway point of the 2nd quarter.

Also, the running game set Campbell up with a great opportunity to throw the game winning TD pass which he missed. If the Redskins can run the ball like they did today the rest of the way, we will be fine.[/quote]

I agree with you here. I am a big Campbell fan, but he has not looked good in a while. He played pretty well at GB but had all the drops, I thought he made some good decisions against AZ when he had chances. Obviously last week was a debacle and he did not play well. I wondered watching him yesterday about his confidence level. It is so hard to know without seeing the All-22 and knowing all the route combos and coverages, but all those check-downs to Sellers were not designed to go to Sellers. Something was happening further down the field and either it was covered, or he thought it was covered, but I just have trouble thinking that the Jets played THAT well in coverage given what some other teams had done to them earlier in the year. It's just really hard for me to separate out what you can pin on the coaches, what you can pin on the players, and what you can pin on Jason checking down without having more info. Missing Moss again really killed me...though it did look like Jason put some more air under that one than he had previously so he is working on it. Just needs to get it out in the middle of the field when there isn't any deep saftey back there.

The offense needs to figure something out quick, but I'm just not all that confident they are going to get that much better. Defense struggled mightily yesterday as well and it felt like 2006 the way they couldn't get off the field on 3rd down.

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[QUOTE=mheisig;374076]If we keep putting up 200+ rushing yards per game the passing game WILL open up, period.

Any opposing team facing a rushing attack like that will have no choice but to 7 or 8 in the box to try to stop it and the passing attack will open up just fine.

The question is, CAN we put up 200+ per game?[/QUOTE]

Good post--that's the point of the run game, in many ways. The Jets are a pathetic run D, so we hit them where it hurt. But we need to effectively mix in the pass, run play action, etc. Doubt we'll be this dominant in the run game again this year.

As for Moss, we are not having this conversation if JC does not overthrow him. Instead, we are talking about good mixture, killer instinct, and all that jazz. We are not, because JC didn't hit it, not because Al didn't call it.

This game, IMO, was to ESTABLISH the run in the minds of our team and everyone else. THat should take the safeties out of deep shell coverage and open things up for JC. But the kid has to hit a few.