Is Philly Officially Dead?
 

It seems that every year, we find Philly, midway through the season, in a do or die game. Tonight was the one. Now that they lost and drop to 3-5, can we count them out, seeing they still have to play @New England, @ Dallas, and the Giants? Their only quality win was against a Detroit team who beats up everybody but NFC East teams, who destroy them. If not after a deflating home loss to Dallas on Sunday night, will a loss against the skins sunday kill them?

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In the mediocre NFC I don't think you can count them out just yet, but they are teetering on the edge.

We could really knock them for a loop with a 'W' next week.

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A W against Philly at home would be HUGE and would destroy their division record.

Hail, bitches.

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We'll know next Sunday.

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They're not statistically dead but they definitely have one foot in the grave.

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If they beat us, they are very much right in the thick of things.

But they've been so bad recently...

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Not by a long shot, in this year's NFC. They'll be like a wounded animal next week, most likely--we must put them out of their misery.

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[QUOTE=JWsleep;373857]Not by a long shot, in this year's NFC. They'll be like a wounded animal next week, most likely--we must put them out of their misery.[/QUOTE]

Dido, next week is super important. I'm not predicting anything, but aren't Smoot, Springs, Landry, and Praylow due for int's?

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dont forget. it was only a couple of seasons ago our redskins won 5 in a row at the end to make the playoffs. but if we beat them, put a fork in them. they are done

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Regretfully, Philly is looking at coming to D.C. as a very winable scenario

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Given that they have to play at New England and at Dallas, you gotta figure their chances of making the playoffs are very slim. But the bigger question is how are they going to play against us? My guess is they're going to come out like an animal backed into a corner. We have to be ready for a friggin slugfest this weekend, because they're going to be fighting for their playoff lives.

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[quote=Hog1;373946]Regretfully, Philly is looking at coming to D.C. as a very winable scenario[/quote]

Huh?

I'm guessing you haven't seen them play lately.

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Depends on which Eagle team shows up. This weekwnd is a huge weekend for our division, it will get shaken up.

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this will be our second chance to really kick a division opponent while they are down lets hope we dont blow it again. the eagles always play us tough...so lets not overlook them. but with that being said...they do have a foot in the grave.

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I hope Moss can be as wide open as Owens was that game. Hopefully the Eagles miss that little bit when they look at film.

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[quote=saden1;373854]They're not statistically dead but they definitely have one foot in the grave.[/quote]

And the other foot's on a banana peel.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;373951]My guess is they're going to come out like an animal backed into a corner. We have to be ready for a friggin slugfest this weekend, because they're going to be fighting for their playoff lives.[/QUOTE]
Had to echo this. Division rivals always play up, no matter what their record is. Think 1989: 0-8 Cowboys beats a 4-5 Redskins on their way to 1-15, and that loss pretty much kept the Skins out of the playoffs that year.

Just because the Eagles wings' have been clipped and their ship is sinking, doesn't mean they won't come out guns blazing. McNabb always plays well against the Skins, and as long as Brian Westbrook is healthy, they have a chance. The Skins just have to keep playing their game, and they should do just fine.

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By no means are they dead. Yes, they've played poorly and they have a huge distraction unfolding before their coach's eyes publicly. But, they always seem to make it difficult for us when the chips are down and when we are favored to kick their butts. However, if we play inspired mistake free football this coming weekend, we could do some serious, if not irreparable, damage to the Iggles.

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Like Matty said, the NFC is so weak I wouldn't count Philly out yet.

It wouldn't surprise me to find a couple of .500 teams taking the wild cards as crummy as the NFC is this year.

Besides that, I wouldn't downplay ANY NFC East matchup. I don't care if Philly is 0-9 at this point, the rivalries in the NFC East are tough. Best to just ignore win-loss records when it comes to Dallas, New York and Philly.

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Officially dead is not a right choice of words, yes they are dead for winning the division being 4 games back of Dallas, but making the playoffs no they are not dead yet.

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The Eagles front is vulnerable to getting beat down in the running game. Our offensive line has to stay very physical and keep the ground game going.

And we simply MUST find a way to limit Brian Westbrook.

Those will be the keys, I think our chances are pretty good. But we can't underestimate them.

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[quote=Schneed10;374064]The Eagles front is vulnerable to getting beat down in the running game. Our offensive line has to stay very physical and keep the ground game going.

And we simply MUST find a way to limit Brian Westbrook.

Those will be the keys, I think our chances are pretty good. But we can't underestimate them.[/quote]

I know a lot of people aren't going to like it, but I'd expect a similar game plan from what we saw yesterday. Grind 'em down and pound the ball down their throats.

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[quote=Mattyk72;374072]I know a lot of people aren't going to like it, but I'd expect a similar game plan from what we saw yesterday. Grind 'em down and pound the ball down their throats.[/quote]

I love that gameplan. I wish we would have done it more this season.

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[quote=Mattyk72;374072]I know a lot of people aren't going to like it, but I'd expect a similar game plan from what we saw yesterday. Grind 'em down and pound the ball down their throats.[/quote]

No question that is what we are going to do and it's not a bad idea. But we have got to get Santana the ball more. Owens was just killing Philly on crossing routes last night and I liked that Jason Garrett kept going to him all night. We should beat Philly next week. But it's not going to be easy. It's never easy with this team.

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[quote=Mattyk72;374072]I know a lot of people aren't going to like it, but I'd expect a similar game plan from what we saw yesterday. Grind 'em down and pound the ball down their throats.[/quote]

That's the gameplan we would have been using all along if Jansen and Thomas were healthy. I think it's the gameplan we've actually been trying to use, it's just it hasn't always been successful.

Now we have a patchwork line, but you have to figure even a patchwork line will get better as the season goes along. The more they play together, the more comfortable they get. Certainly worked against the Jets. Granted, they're not a strong D. But neither are the Eagles right now. One game at a time, let's line up and mash 'em.

Know what though, I might be a little twisted, but you know how most people would say the coolest thing in football is a bomb to a WR for a TD? I'd take pulling guards bearing down on a poor DB 99 times out of 100. That's just fun to me.

Smash face. Redskins football.

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It really comes down the the Skins/Eagles game....we beat them and their divisional record is 0-4 out of 6 total games.
That, my friend, would be a Major problem for them.

It is time to lock them in the cellar.

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[quote=skinsnut;374095]It is time to lock them in the cellar.[/quote]

Great visual.

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[quote=Schneed10;374090]That's the gameplan we would have been using all along if Jansen and Thomas were healthy. I think it's the gameplan we've actually been trying to use, it's just it hasn't always been successful.

Now we have a patchwork line, but you have to figure even a patchwork line will get better as the season goes along. The more they play together, the more comfortable they get. Certainly worked against the Jets. Granted, they're not a strong D. But neither are the Eagles right now. One game at a time, let's line up and mash 'em.

Know what though, I might be a little twisted, but you know how most people would say the coolest thing in football is a bomb to a WR for a TD? I'd take pulling guards bearing down on a poor DB 99 times out of 100. That's just fun to me.

Smash face. Redskins football.[/quote]

I agreed with Moose yesterday when he said the excuses are over for our OL, they've had a few weeks together now and it's time for them to produce.

I too love to see a good old beatdown on a DB. There was that one play yesterday where CP was following Kendall and CP gave him a nice shove into a defender, I was loving that play! CP was finishing his runs strong yesterday and I think he really set the tone for the day.

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I think Philly's playoff hopes are all but dead. But, Philly is the type of team that has the potential to be explosive. The Redskins should beat Philly this weekend, but Philly sure has the ability to beat us.

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I think we have the chance to lock Philly down once and for all. I mean, they still have their Pats matchup and a loss to them is as certain as anything, so handing them their 6th loss should all but end their playoff chances.

If they beat us however, 4-5 is hardly dead in the NFC.

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Additionally, we have not defended QB runs at all the last two weeks. I'm not saying that we didn't defend them [I]well[/I] or that we were unprepared. I mean that we just didn't defend them.

McNabb really doesn't want to run, but if we force him to he will beat us.

The DL really needs to play better this week.

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[quote=skinsnut;374095]It really comes down the the Skins/Eagles game....we beat them and their divisional record is 0-4 out of 6 total games.
That, my friend, would be a Major problem for them.

It is time to lock them in the cellar.[/quote]
It would be 1 & 4 as hey beat the Giants in week one. I never liked these type threads about if a team was dead right before we have to play them. They just seem to come back and bite us.

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The iggles look wounded & spirtitually crushed. The didn't even seem to take TO's return as any big deal last night. The 2 guys that matter most to the team - McNabb & Reid- are both going through tough times. Add to that Dawkins, the leader of the D, has been hurting all year.

Still, this game worries me. I would honestly rather be playing them again in Philly. They are a better road team & I think getting away from philly will improve their focus. They played out of a hole last year & Reid is probably trying to motivate them w/the same tactics this year; the classic us against them underdog role. They're not a big underdog though, I expect this game to be very close & ugly.

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[quote=firstdown;374163]It would be 1 & 4 as hey beat the Giants in week one. I never liked these type threads about if a team was dead right before we have to play them. They just seem to come back and bite us.[/quote]

I think it was Dallas that beat the Giants in week one in Texas stadium. Eagles have not won a divison game yet this year

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[quote=sandtrapjack;374172]I think it was Dallas that beat the Giants in week one in Texas stadium. Eagles have not won a divison game yet this year[/quote]
Yep your right.

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They may be out of the playoff contention, but they would like nothing more than to beat us at home.

Remember, we barely beat the Fins and barely beat the Jets.

I still stand by my preseason pick the Skins will go 9-7.

I don't see that getting the wild card this year, getting beat out by the 10-6 Lions (yes, Kitna was prescient).

J-Dawg

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nfc really isnt that weak. at 5-3 we would be out of the playoffs if they began today. the nfc west is weak as well as the south, but there are two 6-2 second placed teams which makes it tougher than it appears.

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[quote=Hog1;373946]Regretfully, Philly is looking at coming to D.C. as a very winable scenario[/quote]
All I can say now is that it's going tpo be close. For the last 3 years, The scores have been 17-14 PHI, 15-5 WAS, 19-16 PHI. I think we will pull it out because of the terrible team in Philadelphia.

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Not yet, hopefully after this coming up Sunday they will be one game closer to be finished.

The Mcnabb era is coming to an end.

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I dont think they are dead Yet. After we beat them on Sunday you can start planning for the Funeral