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SmootSmack 11-08-2007 11:27 PM

Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
Does this seem fair?

Particularly Childress citing Reggie Wayne as a reason why Williamson should have played.

Williamson has been a colossal bust so far, and the Vikings clearly didn't need him this past weekend but that's besides the point.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3100835]ESPN - Vikings dock WR Williamson pay for family funeral - NFL[/url]

JWsleep 11-09-2007 12:33 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
Wow. What a bunch of asses. AND his brother has been in the hospital all season in and out of a coma, and he hasn't had much time to be there. Weak.

EternalEnigma21 11-09-2007 12:44 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
wow... docked for a feuneral? that's got to do something for morale on a team...

wilsowilso 11-09-2007 12:55 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
What a huge pr nightmare. Obviously they are sending a message to this kid who is pretty much a bust so far for being a top ten pick, but they had to know this was going to make them look like garbage. Bad move.

Jamaican'Skin 11-09-2007 01:21 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
The organization is heartless. Sure, he didn't play in the game, but the woman who raised him died. Shouldn't that be enough to understand where he's coming from? What is this world coming to when we can have no compassion for our fellow man

djnemo65 11-09-2007 01:50 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
I wonder if he was a stud if they still would have docked him? I am inclined to guess no.

JoeRedskin 11-09-2007 04:34 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
Wow. What a lack of class.

It not like he just skipped out on them - it appears he went to the team and told them what was happening.

Compare that to how the Skins have handled the Shawn Springs.

hagams 11-09-2007 05:52 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
Any chance the leauge could step in on this? The comish is so strong about improving the appreance of the NFL, IMO the team should be forced to give him that money.
No matter where you work, there's always comp time for this. I'm in the Marines and was on the other side of the world when my grandfather passed away, they had me on a flight in less than 8 hours.

dmek25 11-09-2007 06:40 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
i think there has to be more to this then what we are reading. if not, the vikings have set work place etiquette back 100 years

BleedBurgundy 11-09-2007 07:02 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
Yeah, who the hell do Zygi Wilf and Childress think they are? Can you imagine if you took a day off of work to attend an immediate family members funeral and your boss told you that you weren't getting paid for that WEEK'S worth of work? Who wouldn't walk out on that job then and there? Like someone else said above, this is going to be a huge pr nightmare for the Vikings. What a bunch of clowns.

BleedBurgundy 11-09-2007 07:06 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
Football performance is one thing and if the player isn't performing up to expectations it's your right under NFL rules to cut said player. But there is such a thing as basic human decency that is way more important than football. If anything, this should be a chance for the two sides to put away differences.

JoeRedskin 11-09-2007 07:54 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
While I still think they are lacking class, and just to play devil's advocate: This is isn't like you or me taking a day off from work. He is paid for 16 performances (if lucky, 19) a year. So skipping a game is like missing 3 weeks of work for us 9-5'ers.

Also, would you expect the Skins to pay Shawn if he missed two or three games to be with his Dad?

Given the limited number of performances required by his work, wouldn't it be fair for the team to say - "Take all the time during the week you need but just be back by game day. We'll even pay for your flight to and from the game and make arrangements, etc. so you can be back with your family promptly. But- we may need you game day so be here and be ready to play. Other than that - take all the time you need."

MonkFan4Life 11-09-2007 08:03 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
That's some cold blooded shit right there. I liked where he said that they could've taken his pay for the year but he was going home. They told him what they were going to do and he stuck by his guns. I had a similar situation with a former employer of mine who told me I could be given the day off for a funeral and I went anyway. Now my day's pay is nothing compared to his but the situation was similar. The Vikings are complete douche's for this IMO. I understand the business side of it but we are all human beings.

SouperMeister 11-09-2007 08:52 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;375476]Wow. What a lack of class.

It not like he just skipped out on them - it appears he went to the team and told them what was happening.

[B]Compare that to how the Skins have handled the Shawn Springs.[/B][/quote]I thought the same thing about Springs. One thing that will never change about Joe Gibbs, he is a man of class and decency. I can't imagine a Redskins player ever getting the Childress treatment as long as Gibbs is here.

SmootSmack 11-09-2007 09:26 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
I certainly hope Springs didn't come back for the game against Arizona becuase he would missed a paycheck if he didn't show up.

I think the team could have worked something out with him. And it's especially ridiculous for Major Dad (that's my nickname for Childress: [url]http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/Mac%20headshot.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.jsonline.com/graphics/packer/img/news/jan06/bc102.jpg[/url]) to basically say "Well, these guys played..."

BleedBurgundy 11-09-2007 09:26 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
There is no question. IF this same situation happened with Brandon Lloyd, as much of a doghouse resident as he is, this would still not happen...

Chief X_Phackter 11-09-2007 09:58 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
[quote=hagams;375477]Any chance the leauge could step in on this? The comish is so strong about improving the appreance of the NFL, IMO the team should be forced to give him that money.
No matter where you work, there's always comp time for this. I'm in the Marines and was on the other side of the world when my grandfather passed away, they had me on a flight in less than 8 hours.[/quote]

Agreed, they probably should do something. What a lack of compassion in that organization.


Happy birthday Marine

SC Skins Fan 11-09-2007 10:09 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
"I don't care if they would have [taken] my pay for the rest of the year, I was going home," Williamson told the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "It wouldn't have mattered to me."

At least Troy Williamson has his priorities in order. I've never been a fan of the guy, and obviously he has been a huge disappointment, but you've got to be there for your family. If the Vikings feel like they have to recover $25,000 and that will really help their team then more power to them. Newsflash, football isn't life and death, if you have to help plan a funeral, support your family, arrange travel for siblings, and grieve then maybe you can miss a game. I hope they get taken to task by every media outlet...can someone nominate them for Keith Olberman's "Worst Person in the NFL"?

BleedBurgundy 11-09-2007 10:21 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;375511]

Happy birthday Marine[/QUOTE]

Good Call!

saden1 11-09-2007 11:11 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
What a fantastic display of leadership. Who wouldn't want work for commandant Childress?

BleedBurgundy 11-09-2007 11:33 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
Ja, Ich weisst.

"Auf das vernichtungslager mit ihren grossmutter gehen!" Commandant Childress

:screama:

BDBohnzie 11-09-2007 11:54 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
Most companies have a bereavement policy that allows for a specific amount of time off with pay to take care of such things. You'd think the NFLPA would have something in place for such occasions...if they don't, I bet they do for the next CBA.

It's one thing if it's his mother's aunt who he met twice in his life, and hasn't seen in years. This was the woman who helped raise him, and considering he had to make the arrangements, something we're not sure Williams or Wayne had to do, it's pretty shitty to dock him a week's worth of pay, no matter how well he's doing this year. If you have an issue with his performance, cut him.

And, what's the deal with citing Reggie Wayne? He doesn't play for the Vikings, and has no relevance to the situation. That's complete BS right there. I hope the NFLPA files a grievance on Williamson's behalf, and that this is overturned.

dgack 11-09-2007 01:40 PM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
Well, you know, after the Love Boat, they had to lay down THE LAW!

Good work, Vikes. This is about as sure a piece of evidence as you can get that they're the same old weak sauce organization they always were, and Peterson's entire career will be wasted there.

BleedBurgundy 11-09-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
[QUOTE=dgack;375575]Well, you know, after the Love Boat, they had to lay down THE LAW!

Good work, Vikes. This is about as sure a piece of evidence as you can get that they're the same old weak sauce organization they always were, and Peterson's entire career will be wasted there.[/QUOTE]

Let's hope not regarding Peterson. Maybe one day we can pull a reverse herschel walker trade for him to get him out of minny... lol. I'M NOT SERIOUS.

GhettoDogAllStars 11-09-2007 03:29 PM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;375504]I certainly hope Springs didn't come back for the game against Arizona becuase he would missed a paycheck if he didn't show up.

I think the team could have worked something out with him. And it's especially ridiculous for Major Dad (that's my nickname for Childress: [url]http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/Mac%20headshot.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.jsonline.com/graphics/packer/img/news/jan06/bc102.jpg[/url]) to basically say "Well, these guys played..."[/QUOTE]

This is appalling. If I were in his position, and knew I could get on with another team, I would quit immediately. I would schedule a meeting with the owner and the coach, and tell them how I think they are worthless, inconsiderate pieces of shit. I'd say that it's against my principles to work for sub-human pieces of shit.

@SS: I never noticed, but he REALLY does look like Major Dad. Major Dad would have NEVER done such a thing!

skinsfan69 11-09-2007 03:49 PM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
What I don't understand is why Brad C. would use Wayne and Williams as examples? Is Williamson suppose to do what everyone else is suppose to do ( in the NFL) when a death occurs to a family member? What a pure 100% asshole.

Skinsfan1967 11-10-2007 09:15 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
I'm not to trying to justify anything the team did but knowing that the grandson plays in the NFL, why did the family and funeral director plan things on a gameday?

I'm not trying to be heartless it just seems to me a little better planning was in order. Isn't the funeral director paid to make these decisions for a grieving family.

That being said the Vikings should pay the man.

wilsowilso 11-10-2007 04:33 PM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
They gave him his check back. Me thinks the Vikings got a massive amount of heat for that stupid move.

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3103651"]ESPN - Vikings change mind, give Williamson check back - NFL[/URL]

GusFrerotte 11-10-2007 04:55 PM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
[quote=hagams;375477]Any chance the leauge could step in on this? The comish is so strong about improving the appreance of the NFL, IMO the team should be forced to give him that money.
No matter where you work, there's always comp time for this. I'm in the Marines and was on the other side of the world when my grandfather passed away, they had me on a flight in less than 8 hours.[/quote]


THe league is a bunch of morons who go for this type of crap. Goodell is probably cheering the Vikes on this one. NFL is starting to suck.

SmootSmack 11-11-2007 10:37 AM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
[QUOTE=wilsowilso;375758]They gave him his check back. Me thinks the Vikings got a massive amount of heat for that stupid move.

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3103651"]ESPN - Vikings change mind, give Williamson check back - NFL[/URL][/QUOTE]

Good update. Thanks

SantanaMan 11-11-2007 05:19 PM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
Doesn't Karma work fast nowadays ... the Vikes pull this crap and this weekend Adrain Peterson goes down with an apparent knee injury.

dgack 11-11-2007 07:24 PM

Re: Vikings' Troy Williamson Grieves Loss of Grandmother, Gets Denied Paycheck
 
Did I call that one or what?


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