It's time for Mr. Snyder to step down!
 

Everyone wants Coach Gibbs to step down, but don't seem to realize who's the most responsible for this mess of a franchise that we've had since 1999. I know Snyder is a genius at making money, but an idiot when it comes to building a winning pro football team.

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i had field passes to the first game againsed the dolphins, aside from meeting and talking with lindsay Zarniak i got to witness a hilarious event. a little boy meeting Dan Snyder for the first time with his parents, i mean wow what an event it must have been for this kid, and as his parents stood there and watched their son meet danny boy and shake his hand this is what ol Dan had to say... "So have you heard of six flags?" Shamless this guy....

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[quote=chrisl4064;377427]i had field passes to the first game againsed the dolphins, aside from meeting and talking with lindsay Zarniak i got to witness a hilarious event. a little boy meeting Dan Snyder for the first time with his parents, i mean wow what an event it must have been for this kid, and as his parents stood there and watched their son meet danny boy and shake his hand this is what ol Dan had to say... "So have you heard of six flags?" Shamless this guy....[/quote]
I must be slow... but I don't get what is wrong with talking with a kid about the amusement park?????:confused:

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In the words of Schneed10, "this thread is retarded"

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we have sucked since 1992, not since Snyder bought the team. Did Snyder draft Desmond Howard, Heath Shuler and Michael Westbrook? Didnt think so

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Well if you don't like what he is doing and blamming him for this loss then I'm sure for the right price you could purchase the team. And whats wrong for asking a kid if he ever heard of six flags? Maybe he was trying to strike up a conversation about something the kid knew something about.

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wow,some harsh words are being thrown around this thread...We are a well put together team in certain areas and this season proves that with the injuries showing our weakness's on to Danny How much does he actually control on the team,really other than paying high amounts for guys(which have to be recommended to him by someone else) what has he done wrong to hurt our team>?

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This is a dumb thread. All Snyder wants to do is win. Whatever it costs, just win! If you are not with the program, you are out of here! It's very simple. He is also a marketing genius. He knows how to turn a buck. He invests in his product and expects return on his investment. I wish more owners would treat their franchises similarly. If so, we wouldn't have so many lame duck and cheap franchises. Yes, he has made some bad personnel moves, but the intentions were good. I think he has learned from some of the earlier mistakes and the most recent free agent acquisitions have been solid.

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[quote=ncskinsfanec;377419]Everyone wants Coach Gibbs to step down, but don't seem to realize who's the most responsible for this mess of a franchise that we've had since 1999. I know Snyder is a genius at making money, but an idiot when it comes to building a winning pro football team.[/quote]

Yeah right. The owner who spent 800 million is going to step down? Very retarded thread.

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This is nuts. Snyder does nothing except for sign checks. I just don't understand how people can blame him. As I've said before, wouldn't trade him for any owner in the league.

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[quote=Redskin Rich;377438]I must be slow... but I don't get what is wrong with talking with a kid about the amusement park?????:confused:[/quote]

it was the only sentance he said to the kid as the picture was taken, and it happened to be him promoting his own .... you know what, nevermind.

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is this another shot at the skins for the L? Honestly, every team has some games where they fall up short. Indy did last night.

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Enough with the dumb step down threads already. We still have 7 games to go.

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[quote=chrisl4064;377469]it was the only sentance he said to the kid as the picture was taken, and it happened to be him promoting his own .... you know what, nevermind.[/quote]
I bet he pulled the kids hair and kick dirt on him as he said "whats six flags". He is probably paying off the schools teachers to fail the kid.

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This thread is the epitome of inane. In the first place Snyder is the owner, so he never 'steps down,' he only gets bought out, and as savvy as our owner is that's just not in the cards. Second, one of the bankers I work w/ is a huge Bears fan who knows what it's like to have an owner that won't spend much on the team, coaching, facilities, etc. He is familiar w/ Snyder and the Redskins and actually said many teams he would like it if Snyder would buy the Bears too (which is retarded because everybody who's read about Snyder knows he's a huge Skins fan and not much into ball otherwise).

But lastly, I just watched the Gibbs presser and still don't see any fire and brimstone there. I keep asking the question here and never seem to get an answer: does Gibbs look like he's really into this? I don't see it, but maybe that's just me.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;377480]Enough with the dumb step down threads already. We still have 7 games to go.[/QUOTE]

Wisely said. Nothing is changing until after December.

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I know nothing of this "Mr. Synder" you speak of, so I googled his pic. Apparently the franchise has been sold to Capt. Kangaroo.

[IMG]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i240/riggins44/iab_mem_hand_2004_page_14_image_000.jpg[/IMG]

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I think I should start a thread saying it's time for some Redskins fans to step down.

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[quote=SmootSmack;377442]In the words of Schneed10, "this thread is retarded"[/quote]

By the way my orginal post was what you call being sarcastic. It was a response to the post, "Its time for joe to step down." Just look around and you'll likely see it, it only has over 300 responses. By the way, anyone in their right mind knows that Snyder isn't stepping down. I don't want anyone stepping down for a matter of fact. I just think Gibbs doesn't need or have to do put up with coaching an underachieving franchise anymore. Gibbs should be enjoying the golden years of his life right now, and not putting up with morons like Brandon Lloyd.

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[quote=skinsguy;377524]I think I should start a thread saying it's time for some Redskins fans to step down.[/quote]

I'll get that up and running.

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I'm no Dan Snyder apologist, but what has the guy done wrong since bringing Gibbs back? He has taken a back seat and financially granted Gibbs' every wish. He has financed the most highly paid coaching staff, hand picked by Gibbs. He has shelled out signing bonuses for numerous Gibbs acquisitions that have worked out great (Griffin, Springs, Washington, Portis, Fletcher, etc.). Snyder may have been a meddling presence prior to Gibbs, but what exactly do you see him doing now that is hurting the team??? Would you prefer that we had the Bidwills as owners? At least Snyder is trying to win and seemingly backing Gibbs' every request.

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I don't remember where I heard this, but the Washington Redskins is the most marketable franchise in all sports. Hmmm....Snyder stepping down? Not.

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[QUOTE=Redskin Rich;377438]I must be slow... but I don't get what is wrong with talking with a kid about the amusement park?????:confused:[/QUOTE]

Doesn't Snyder own Six Flags?

...and nothing is wrong with bringing it up to some kid, maybe he was going to give him free tickets, idk. I think he was just trying to point out that Snyder... if he only said one sentance to the kid, it would be only to promote his own park.

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[QUOTE=ncskinsfanec;377419]Everyone wants Coach Gibbs to step down, but don't seem to realize who's the most responsible for this mess of a franchise that we've had since 1999. I know Snyder is a genius at making money, but an idiot when it comes to building a winning pro football team.[/QUOTE]

It doesn't matter Nov. or in Dec. Mr. Snyder ain't gonna nowhere who is gonna make him sell the team you?

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I long for the days of Jack Kent Cooke. Now there, my friends, was a great owner! Snyder's still learning, and maybe he'll get there eventually, I'd certainly rather have him as opposed to that Michael Jackson wannabe Jerry Jones.

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I know I have been calling for Cowher to come in a season earlier than planned, but the franchise going down the tubes isn't Snyder's fault. Cooke didn't have a very good plan in play once Coach retired and then it just went downhill from there. Pettibone should not have been made the HC, then they bring in the hot shot from Dallas that wasn't and never will be HC material. Danny fired his ass and got Marty. Only two major mistakes Danny really did was getting those Wheeze Kids in 2001 and letting Marty go. It took 5 games, but the team started to buy into Marty's approach and looked like a decent team, even with Tony Banks as the QB. In hindsight Spurrier might be considered a mistake, but it was a sexy gamble that just didn't play out. Danny thought the Fun n Gun might work in the NFL as was wrong. Who knows? It could have been the replacement for the West Coast Offense if it had a chance.

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IF little danny really wanted to really win. He would take put his ego aside and hire a GM. Like other succesful team have done since 1999. Instead he more interested in selling throwback jersheys and screwing the fans at FedEx. He always will make money on this team. But think how much he could make if we ever won anything with him as the owner. The worst part of little Danny is that he taking Joe Gibbs down with him and that a crying shame. Joe deserves better.

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[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;377978]IF little danny really wanted to really win. He would take put his ego aside and hire a GM. Like other succesful team have done since 1999. Instead he more interested in selling throwback jersheys and screwing the fans at FedEx. He always will make money on this team. But think how much he could make if we ever won anything with him as the owner. The worst part of little Danny is that he taking Joe Gibbs down with him and that a crying shame. Joe deserves better.[/QUOTE]

How would you define "hiring a GM" What do you expect that person would do?

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Anyone but Little Danny making the picks or Vinney and not Joe either. A real football maybe someone under the Gm in NE a rising star. Should have got BB when he had the chance or Wolf. Try to get a solid number 2 man with team that run a good draft year after year, a man with a eye for talent. Someone who wont trade away 3 and 4 rounds picks like they dont matter. Try to see down the road instead of next year. Right now Little Danny way not working. No more quick fixes. Sign players who everyone knows was trouble and give them 10 million here and there like we always do. Outbidding ourselfs. Instead of trading a future HOF corner and a 2 pick for a RB where you can find anywhere in the draft.

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[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;377986]Anyone but Little Danny making the picks or Vinney and not Joe either. A real football maybe someone under the Gm in NE a rising star. Should have got BB when he had the chance or Wolf. Try to get a solid number 2 man with team that run a good draft year after year, a man with a eye for talent. Someone who wont trade away 3 and 4 rounds picks like they dont matter. Try to see down the road instead of next year. Right now Little Danny way not working. No more quick fixes. Sign players who everyone knows was trouble and give them 10 million here and there like we always do. Outbidding ourselfs. Instead of trading a future HOF corner and a 2 pick for a RB where you can find anywhere in the draft.[/QUOTE]

Well I think they have certainly made mistakes but seem to be moving in the right direction with several moves they have made and they at least say they are putting greater focus on the draft (in terms of keeping their picks) over the next couple of years.

But to be clear, what you're saying is that Danny needs to clean house in the front office and start anew?

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[quote=GiantsSuck703;377445]we have sucked since 1992, not since Snyder bought the team. Did Snyder draft Desmond Howard, Heath Shuler and Michael Westbrook? Didnt think so[/quote]

Well who did he draft?
Oh wait, he traded away all of our picks!

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[QUOTE=chrisl13;377997]Well who did he draft?
Oh wait, he traded away all of our picks![/QUOTE]

Landry, Taylor, Cooley, Montgomery, Campbell, Blades, etc.

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what im saying is danny needs to stay out of it. just write the checks. He has to face that he not the smartest guy in the room football wise. Have guys who done it for a living not fantasy football. offseason was better this year. But still only have 5 of our 7 picks next year. Who ever wasted that pick on Palmer last year should be fired. That pick could have been a Olinemen or DE in the draft. Who ever wanted to trade those picks for duckett should be fired. We have hit some in FA but mostly that been 50/50. Listen now team is perfect but where are especially far from it. Our oline is old. Washington started to break down the last two years. Smoot hurt so is Rogers. Griffith is pst 30 and has been hurt this is not a young team overall, in the places where we need to be young.Where the improvement from this team. Yes we are 5-4 but how good are we. We blown 14 games the last 3 and a half years. One playoff win since 2000. OUr division record alway bad, expect for 2005.

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we have had the least amount of picks in the NFL since 99. You cant build a winner without any depth.

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[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;378008]what im saying is danny needs to stay out of it. just write the checks. He has to face that he not the smartest guy in the room football wise. Have guys who done it for a living not fantasy football. offseason was better this year. But still only have 5 of our 7 picks next year. Who ever wasted that pick on Palmer last year should be fired. That pick could have been a Olinemen or DE in the draft. Who ever wanted to trade those picks for duckett should be fired. We have hit some in FA but mostly that been 50/50. Listen now team is perfect but where are especially far from it. Our oline is old. Washington started to break down the last two years. Smoot hurt so is Rogers. Griffith is pst 30 and has been hurt this is not a young team overall, in the places where we need to be young.Where the improvement from this team. Yes we are 5-4 but how good are we. We blown 14 games the last 3 and a half years. One playoff win since 2000. OUr division record alway bad, expect for 2005.[/QUOTE]

I think all he does is write the checks. I mean we're going to go in circles about past moves so I'm not too concerned with debating that. I'm just curious what people mean when they say "We need a GM" and what I gather from you is that you mean the people who are currently serving that role need to be removed and replaced with a fresh new staff.

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[quote=SouperMeister;377673]I'm no Dan Snyder apologist, but what has the guy done wrong since bringing Gibbs back? He has taken a back seat and financially granted Gibbs' every wish. He has financed the most highly paid coaching staff, hand picked by Gibbs. He has shelled out signing bonuses for numerous Gibbs acquisitions that have worked out great (Griffin, Springs, Washington, Portis, Fletcher, etc.). Snyder may have been a meddling presence prior to Gibbs, but what exactly do you see him doing now that is hurting the team??? Would you prefer that we had the Bidwills as owners? At least Snyder is trying to win and seemingly backing Gibbs' every request.[/quote]


Well for starters he brought Gibbs back. Honestly and this may be me being the usual pessimist that i am, i believe he brought Gibbs back as a marketing stunt for this team. What better way to sell merchandise and fill the seats than to bring back the beloved coach. Nevermind hes old and haggard, the people love him, worship his every move. I moved off the Gibbs bandwagon when Gibbs moved to NASCAR. I was pissed he left and even more pissed we brought him back. I am not however pissed at Danny, Danny has done what every owner does (or tries to do), fill the seats. To be honest, thats all he cares about, which is fine, but we need to get other management in there who know how to construct a good team.

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[QUOTE=chrisl4064;378021]Well for starters he brought Gibbs back. Honestly and this may be me being the usual pessimist that i am, i believe he brought Gibbs back as a marketing stunt for this team. What better way to sell merchandise and fill the seats than to bring back the beloved coach. Nevermind hes old and haggard, the people love him, worship his every move. I moved off the Gibbs bandwagon when Gibbs moved to NASCAR. I was pissed he left and even more pissed we brought him back. I am not however pissed at Danny, Danny has done what every owner does (or tries to do), fill the seats. To be honest, thats all he cares about, which is fine, but we need to get other management in there who know how to construct a good team.[/QUOTE]

I don't understand the whole "I moved off the Gibbs bandwagon when Gibbs moved to NASCAR" argument, nor the "old and haggard"

I think it's unfair to make unsubstantiated assumptions like all Snyder cares is about is filling the seats.

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I think Snyder's biggest problem, and he's gotten much better at this I believe, is that he's a lifelong fan who remained a fan when he bought the team. That's a dangerous thing. Imagine how many times after a game you were so fired up you wanted to fire this guy, draft that guy, cut this guy, trade for that other guy. Now imagine you actually could. Unless you can step back and evaluate the situation you're bound to make mistakes. Fortunately for all of us, there is nothing we can do but step back. But that's not the case for Snyder.

I think this is why his tenure as owner got off to such a bad start, but I definitely see improvement.

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[quote=chrisl4064;378021]Well for starters he brought Gibbs back. Honestly and this may be me being the usual pessimist that i am, i believe he brought Gibbs back as a marketing stunt for this team. What better way to sell merchandise and fill the seats than to bring back the beloved coach. Nevermind hes old and haggard, the people love him, worship his every move. I moved off the Gibbs bandwagon when Gibbs moved to NASCAR. I was pissed he left and even more pissed we brought him back. I am not however pissed at Danny, Danny has done what every owner does (or tries to do), fill the seats. To be honest, thats all he cares about, which is fine, but we need to get other management in there who know how to construct a good team.[/quote]

Gibbs wouldn't come back to coach as part of a "marketing stunt". That's just so ridiculous it barely warrants a response. It makes me wonder if you really understand what goes into coaching a NFL team. The time committment alone is insane, there's no way someone does it half-hearted, unless your name is Spurrier of course.

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[quote=SmootSmack;378023]I don't understand the whole "I moved off the Gibbs bandwagon when Gibbs moved to NASCAR" argument, nor the "old and haggard"

I think it's unfair to make unsubstantiated assumptions like all Snyder cares is about is filling the seats.[/quote]


Honestly i dont think that it is unfair to assume this. Snyder has done nothing for the fans. He has done nothing but raise the prices on everything, however this does not mean i want him to go. I just cant understand why a team that brings in such a high revenue from its fans continues to get beaten down year after year. I moved away from Gibbs when he went to NASCAR, yes, and ok maybe "bandwagon" was the wrong word to use, but i no longer viewed him as the coach of the Redskins, nor did i miss him. As far as "old and haggard" go, he IS old and "haggard" is just a word im throwing in there out of frustration, its not even really a word i dont think anyways.