Warpath Myth vs. Reality
 

Lately there have been some amazingly ignorant assumptions about this site and the administrative decisions made by the moderators.

So let's clear some things up.

Myth: You cannot speak your mind and are "absolutely in no way allowed to question anything that has to do with the Redskins. If you dont drink the Kool-aid you're an idiot who has no idea what your talking about

Reality: First of all, the idea that you cannot speak your mind on this site and must agree to everything the "Kool-Aid drinkers" say is preposterous. As has been pointed out in the past, the mods themselves are not all of one opinion. We disagree amongst ourselves all the time, in the public forums and behind the scenes. The above myth is absurd and if that's the mentality any of you have, you clearly have no concept of what this site is about and are better off going someplace else.

Myth: Disagreeing with a moderator about the Redskins will get you banned

Reality: Speaking for myself, I don't hide the fact that I try to think in an optimistic/positive light (Though I'm not naive to the issues surrounding the team, its coaches, its players). This has led to my thoughts and observations often clashing with those of some others here, such as: GMSCud, 70Chip, Htownskinsfan. But ask any of them if I have ever threatened to ban them for disagreeing with me on a post or thread.

The mods do not censor anyone from speaking their mind, so long as they speak it intelligently.

Which leads to the next point. A reminder of Guideline #6 and the role of the moderators

[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/announcement.php?f=2[/url]

[QUOTE]We pride ourselves in having a [B]knowledgeable and informed member base at this site. We want to stress that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but if you want to be taken seriously you must back up your opinions with some original thought, facts/stats, etc[/B]. Think before you post, take pride in your post.

If the moderators find that you aren't adding much value to the forums with your postings, your thread may be deleted or closed, and you may be subject to a temporary or permanent removal from the forums at our discretion. Remember, [B]we value quality over quantity here[/B]. Don't get caught up with how many posts you have.[/QUOTE]

I understand emotions run high and we inevitably throw in a nonsensical thread. But then it becomes two, then three, then four. And then we start to get into these heated West Side Story like gang wars between two extremes. The "we are perfect's" vs. the "we don't deserve to live's." And we really start to lose sight of taking pride in our posts, valuing quality over quantity, being knowledgeable and informed. And understand that the last part doesn't mean you're here to tell everyone how knowledgeable you are, it's to share information and ideas with your fellow members and become more knowledgeable yourself. Again, if the mentality you have is that you are simply here to speak of how "knowledgeable" you are then you clearly have no concept of what this site is about and are better off going someplace else.

Finally, let's all understand the goal laid out by Matty when he created this site: [B][i]"To provide the fans of the Washington Redskins with a unique fan perspective with knowledgeable and respectful discussions on our message boards.[/B][/i]

[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/redskins-warpath-about.htm[/url]

I hope this clears up (and it seems like we have to have threads like these every other month) any misconceptions/questions anyone has had.

Matty, fellow ThunderMods, anything you want to add?

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yeah, anyone who doesn't agree will be banned

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Great post SS. I hope people read it carefully. Unfortunately, I know there are a number of posters who will not read it carefully, will not believe it, and/or will not comprehend it.

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The Ego's protege has spoken.

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I am just tired of the pretend mods, who have to say in every thread "is this thread material" , "this thread should be closed", "stupid thread", etc...

Too many pretend cops. It gets old.

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[quote=SmootSmack;377894]Matty, fellow ThunderMods, anything you want to add?[/quote]

[IMG]http://www.slantmagazine.com/images/blog/snarf.jpg[/IMG]

Snarf, snarf.

And yes, I agree. Snarf.

Here's my hope for Sunday. Just eek out a win. Whether we deserve it or not, just please pull off a miracle so we can have something positive this week.

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Excellent thread. Unfortunately threads like this are needed every once in a while to clear the air and remind everyone why exactly we're here.

SS, I didn't think we disagreed that often. Maybe I'm wrong. But I think the fact that I didn't even know we disagreed often proves your point- you and all the other mods are very fair IMO.

I'm not part of the "Kool-Aid" gang, but I've never been criticized or treated unfairly for this. I've certainly never been warned a ban was coming my way.

I know I can be a little pessimistic and critical of the team, but I try my best to insert as much optimism as possible, thus my heading, "The Impatient Optimist." If I didn't care about the Redskins, their shortcomings wouldn't bother me. That's why I get so frustrated at times. I know most of us feel the same way.

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Good post and I would add that I am sick of people starting rant threads that just espouse their own general opinion about the state of things without offering any new or specific analysis. Usually these threads go something like this: "I have been a Redskins fan since ________ and I (am sick of this crap/believe we need to stand by Gibbs)." These threads offer nothing in my opinion.

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Bottom line, people need to grow the f up.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;377912][IMG]http://www.slantmagazine.com/images/blog/snarf.jpg[/IMG]

Snarf, snarf.

And yes, I agree. Snarf.

Here's my hope for Sunday. Just eek out a win. Whether we deserve it or not, just please pull off a miracle so we can have something positive this week.[/QUOTE]

Snarf Snarf


Can you like shut the hell up for 5 mintues, snarf snarf

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Hey,what'd you have to mention me for :spank:
I didnt realize we clashed that much

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I'm a longtime member of the warpath, but rarely post at all anymore. I think the site is great because of the mods and how they keep the threads fresh and nonrepetitive.

If you think your threads are unduly closed or you got banned for no good reason you are in almost every case wrong. Please think before you post or start threads and try not to be too emotional when you post here.

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;377940]Hey,what'd you have to mention me for :spank:
I didnt realize we clashed that much[/QUOTE]

Well that's the point. We disagree but we don't "clash" And I'm sure you could attest that you never had any reason to think I or any other mod was going to ban you for, as an example, saying "It's the playcalling" when I say "It's the execution"

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Good post. The rules here are just like any other blog or message board, just don't go ballistic and be rude or disrespectful to your Skins brethren and you are fine. Lately it has been too hard to get in on the Kool Aid fun at all.

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I like the fact that you can disagree on here. I used to be a regular on the Wash Post fan message board forum and if you didn't alway go with the kool aid it could get real nasty with the debates. I was a kool aid drinker somewhat myself til the collapse of 2005 then it really hit the fan for me.

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[quote=mredskins;377907]I am just tired of the pretend mods, who have to say in every thread "is this thread material" , "this thread should be closed", "stupid thread", etc...

Too many pretend cops. It gets old.[/quote]

Not enough thread cops, in my opinion. Why should the mods have to do all the work? If the members want a board that includes only threads that add value in terms of knowledgeable and intelligent discussion, then they should take it upon themselves to criticize threads that don't meet those criteria.

Anyway, I have not come to debate the merits of policing the boards. The bottom line is the laws of the land are laid out in the forum guidelines. That's the way it is and it ain't going to change.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;377907]I am just tired of the pretend mods, who have to say in every thread "is this thread material" , "this thread should be closed", "stupid thread", etc...

Too many pretend cops. It gets old.[/QUOTE]

Well, I think for the most part they mean well and are just trying to help the site.

However, it would probably be best for people to PM a moderator when they have a concern about a thread and let the mods decide what to do.

And Schneed, I hear your point but the problem is that too often "criticizing a thread" causes more problems because it becomes personal.

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One of my problems lately with this site is that it has devolved into place where everyone justs argues. Just about every decent thread starts off on point with decent back and forth and next thing you know it is 2 or 3 people dominating the thread with their disagreement. I don't say this to whine but I agree that there are too many people around here who either pick fights or are simply looking for disagreement. We don't all have to "drink the kool-aid" but what ever happened to stating an opinion and then letting it speak for itself? Instead of trying to harangue people it believeing it. So many of the arguments center around philisophical gaps that will never change too. It justs seems there are a lot of posters who need to learn to say what they think and then shut up about it. Stop hammering your points all over the place and picking fights.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;377919]Bottom line, people need to grow the f up.[/QUOTE]

Bottom line, you sure start a heck of a lot of threads. But they are quality threads. I'm thinking of maybe having you start a thread teaching people how to start a thread. Seriously, your threads are well thought out and spark very good discussions (by those that are actually here to have good discussions)

I'm completely serious. You start a 12thMan's Guide to a Proper Thread and I'll sticky it

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;378001]Bottom line, you sure start a heck of a lot of threads. But they are quality threads. I'm thinking of maybe having you start a thread teaching people how to start a thread. Seriously, your threads are well thought out and spark very good discussions (by those that are actually here to have good discussions)

I'm completely serious. You start a 12thMan's Guide to a Proper Thread and I'll sticky it[/QUOTE]

I 100% concur. 12ths threads are generally the best around here. Where's the kool-aid?

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You know what I wish? I wish we had a practice squad forum. Put people in there until they've proven they can cut it in the locker room. I know it won't happen, but it's nice dream anyway.

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[QUOTE=Lady Brave;378009]You know what I wish? I wish we had a practice squad forum. Put people in there until they've proven they can cut it in the locker room. I know it won't happen, but it's nice dream anyway.[/QUOTE]

That's a pretty awesome idea

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The main problem, IMO is the influx of new members. We have talked about this before with the mods, but with new posters, come those same old posts that piss you off. Realistically speaking, most new members aren't too forum savvy, and pretty much do all the no-no's, like starting BS threads, getting into arguments, repeating the same stuff, etc. I can use myself as an example. I use to post a hell of a lot, and it was meaningless. I also got into arguments with Grim and others for no damn reason.

It took time, but I changed and I try to put more effort into my posts and not overreact after games. But "noobs" will continue to do so. So I really think the mods have a few options.
1) Restrict/stop new membership(not ideal)
2) Teach new members via sticky threads, several polite requests, etc.
3) Teach new members via temporary non-thread starting periods(already a measure)
4)Ban people more often.
5)Or just deal with it.


I think the ideal fall between options 2-4, but we also need to face the reality of point 5. New members are going to be there, and unless you have the time and effort to call each of them out, etc we have to deal with it to an extent. I do think the mods have done a decent job of this, I only suggest to the "regulars" to calm down because the problem is inevitable. This is all just my opinion though.

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[quote=mredskins;377907]I am just tired of the pretend mods, who have to say in every thread "is this thread material" , "this thread should be closed", "stupid thread", etc...

Too many pretend cops. It gets old.[/quote]


im actually going to have to agree with this. there is this feeling i get that if a poster has over one thousand threads they are untouchable. just the other day i was called a "douche bag" on a forum by a member with over a thousand posts. in that same thread 5 posts later or something like that, someone got banned for saying that to a moderator, and in less context. not a big deal, just pointing out that i feel as though some people, mostly the 1,000+ posters dont get reprimanded for anything and pretty much say whatever they want, examples below...

- Does this deserve its own thread???
- :bdh:
-:frusty:

on the other hand i am a realist and understand that in no way this will stop, sometimes i even find it comical and amusing, and who knows, if it doesnt stop, i may join in myself.... get my post count real high!

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I just don't understand the Kool-Aid thing. I know what it means but where the hell did it come from?

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It's been tough all over in the redskins nation--who among you has not found yourself snapping at all kinds of things that usually do not bother you this season, especially after the philly fiasco? I know I have.

We've all just got to remember that other posters are just fans, often as pissed off about the loss or whatever as you are. If you find yourself typing some "STFU" type response, hold off on hitting the post button for a sec, and think about rephrasing. It's not such a big deal.

And if you're going to start a thread, look for repeats, and ask yourself if what you've got to say is really thread-worthy, or something that should just be a post on one of the many open threads. Again, not that hard.

The mods don't "work here." They are not the cops or principals or teachers. They're just skins fans trying to make this board work. Sometimes I think folks forget that in the heat of the moment, and act like they're at the complaint counter of a big company. It's not like that, people. They're just trying to make this place work, which is good, because I sure don't have the time to maintain or keep control of this site. But I sure am glad someone does!!!

Thanks Matty and all the mods. These are tough times, but there's no reason to turn on ourselves. THINK BEFORE YOU POST!

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[QUOTE=chrisl4064;378016]im actually going to have to agree with this. there is this feeling i get that if a poster has over one thousand threads they are untouchable. just the other day i was called a "douche bag" on a forum by a member with over a thousand posts. in that same thread 5 posts later or something like that, someone got banned for saying that to a moderator, and in less context. not a big deal, just pointing out that i feel as though some people, mostly the 1,000+ posters dont get reprimanded for anything and pretty much say whatever they want, examples below...

- Does this deserve its own thread???
- :bdh:
-:frusty:

on the other hand i am a realist and understand that in no way this will stop, sometimes i even find it comical and amusing, and who knows, if it doesnt stop, i may join in myself.... get my post count real high![/QUOTE]

Well, post counts aren't a deciding factor between getting banned/reprimanded or not. But certainly, in most cases, someone who has reached a 1,000+ post count has earned the respect and trust of mods and other members to have lasted as long.

I did not see that post that was directed at you and I apologize for that. And I'm guessing no other mod did either. Certainly had we seen it we would have addressed it to the offending party (at least privately). Unfortunately we do miss things from time to time.

As to the follow up post made to a moderator. I suspect you're talking about the one made to me. Understand that it had nothing to do with the fact that it was addressed to me personally. It was a growing issue with that particular person about his lack of respect and understanding for the site. Some people are not redeemable and he was one.

Just keep in mind that reprimands are often/usually handled privately between the mods and the offenders. So, while in this case I think you're right we missed it, don't assume that we let things slide.

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[QUOTE=MTRedskinsFan;378017]I just don't understand the Kool-Aid thing. I know what it means but where the hell did it come from?[/QUOTE]

Not to ruin your night but: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown_Massacre#Mass_murder-and-suicide]Jonestown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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no comment! don't want to get banned

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;378019]Well, post counts aren't a deciding factor between getting banned/reprimanded or not. But certainly, in most cases, someone who has reached a 1,000+ post count has earned the respect and trust of mods and other members to have lasted as long.

I did not see that post that was directed at you and I apologize for that. And I'm guessing no other mod did either. Certainly had we seen it we would have addressed it to the offending party (at least privately). Unfortunately we do miss things from time to time.

As to the follow up post made to a moderator. I suspect you're talking about the one made to me. Understand that it had nothing to do with the fact that it was addressed to me personally. It was a growing issue with that particular person about his lack of respect and understanding for the site. Some people are not redeemable and he was one.

Just keep in mind that reprimands are often/usually handled privately between the mods and the offenders. So, while in this case I think you're right we missed it, don't assume that we let things slide.[/QUOTE]

I don't want to speak out of turn but I am pretty sure that bans almosts always come after a consistent level of belligerence and/or inappropriate behavior and rarely happen after one incident. Whether the offender has a 1000 posts or not. One of the Mods can confirm that but from my perspectvie the mods do a good job of allowing freedom while also maintaining control.

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[quote=FRPLG;378039][B]I don't want to speak out of turn but I am pretty sure that bans almosts always come after a consistent level of belligerence and/or inappropriate behavior and rarely happen after one incident. Whether the offender has a 1000 posts or not.[/B] One of the Mods can confirm that but from my perspectvie the mods do a good job of allowing freedom while also maintaining control.[/quote]

That's pretty much the case.

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[quote=SmootSmack;378019]Well, post counts aren't a deciding factor between getting banned/reprimanded or not. But certainly, in most cases, someone who has reached a 1,000+ post count has earned the respect and trust of mods and other members to have lasted as long.

I did not see that post that was directed at you and I apologize for that. And I'm guessing no other mod did either. Certainly had we seen it we would have addressed it to the offending party (at least privately). Unfortunately we do miss things from time to time.

As to the follow up post made to a moderator. I suspect you're talking about the one made to me. Understand that it had nothing to do with the fact that it was addressed to me personally. It was a growing issue with that particular person about his lack of respect and understanding for the site. Some people are not redeemable and he was one.

Just keep in mind that reprimands are often/usually handled privately between the mods and the offenders. So, while in this case I think you're right we missed it, don't assume that we let things slide.[/quote]

Yep, I was just banned a couple months ago. I was being an ass and got what was coming to me. Can't hate on that.

The mods are definitely fair about laying down the law.

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I think it's important for those in either the "we're awesome" or "we suck" camps to remember that the truth lies somewhere in the middle (in something of a 5-4 ratio at this time). Were there good things that happened against the Eagles? Absolutely. Were they outweighed by bad things? Yes, by about a 33-25 margin.

It's all math. Do "kool-aid drinkers" have more to say after a win? Sure, they have more evidence. Do "naysayers" have more to say after a loss? Sure, Sally Jenkins let them out of their caves (jokes!).

My point is that the pendulum swings here with the team, and just because your worldview isn't expressed by every poster doesn't mean the opinion isn't valid. Knowing this is how a good American like me and a pinko like Matty can work in harmony.

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[COLOR=black][FONT='Times New Roman']This is all very good, and I appreciate the effort of the mods to some extent, but I would offer one suggestion: I think the mods need to enforce a higher standard of conventional writing. In other words, unintelligible posts that seem to have been written by an illiterate 3 year old with hooves for hands, absolutely no understanding of grammar or punctuation, and zero effort to spell correctly, should be deleted from the discussion, no matter the content. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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(cough)too many commas (cough)

j/k

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After the spiritual evisceration that was this past Sunday, I had to take a break from posting about the Redskins on this site. I did that because I felt ultra dissappointed and I didn't want my negativity and irrationality to compound the current ridiculous dichotomy between the kings of kool aid and the haterade heroes.

The break accomplished 2 things:

One, I gained perspective. In the two days since our loss, the following have, statistically speaking, happened- 3,000 people have died from cancer, 731,520 babies were born into this world and 14,000 deer have died at the hands of LadyBrave. Splitting our series with the Eagles isn't [I]that[/I] bad.

The second thing it accomplished was to make me appreciate how much I enjoy discussing the redskins on this site. I waste an inordinate amount of time here. And generally enjoy every second. But when people start to talk less about the team and more about how worthless each other's viewpoints are, I feel like the experience is lessened.

Here's what I don't get concerning all of the bitching and moaning: Mods run the site. If they really wanted to unfairly censor those with differing points of view, they'd just ban you and that would be the end of it. Forget namecalling, we'd all just forget there ever was an Offis or a Paulskinsfan or whoever, because they'd cease to exist on this site. Consequently so would a lot of valuable discussion that makes this site so great.

I'm not trying to kiss anyone's ass or anything but I believe that by and large this group of mods does everything it can to maintain and improve the quality of fan interaction on this site. That's not to say that the Mods aren't human. If they care enough about the team to spend whatever ungodly amount of hours it takes to maintain this forum, then obviously they are going to get a little bit annoyed with 14 "Fire Gibbs" threads immediately after a loss. Especially when we have a winning record and at least a puncher's chance to make the playoffs. Believe it or not they probably roll their eyes to the same extent when there are 15 "We are the greatest team since Michael and the archangels took on the Egyptian Firstborns" threads.

What I'm getting at is, take a second to think before you post. Ask yourself- "is what I have to say going to add to the overall quality of the discussion going on right now?" "Am I just venting?" "What am I hoping to accomplish?" "Do I honestly believe what I'm posting or am i just so dissappointed right now that I'm trying to take it out on everone else?" If the answer to any of those is yes, then it's probably best to take a porn break. Come back when you're relaxed.

I have to admit, I am slanted towards taking a positive look at the Redskins if at all possible. (not the easiest when Westbrook runs through the middle of our D for 58 yards and the go ahead score) I'd rather talk about ways we can get better as opposed to ways we suck. If that's not you, that's cool. But I just have to question the fanhood of anyone experiencing schadenfreude over their own team losing just so they can go online and say "I told you so..."

Mods are great and obviously this site would be an absolute disaster without them but I think we can all do our part (especially the ones who've been around for awhile, lurkers and posters alike) to police ourselves. I suggest taking a short break, realizing what makes this site such a great place to waste the workday on and then come back refreshed.

Just a thought...

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;378086]After the spiritual evisceration that was this past Sunday, I had to take a break from posting about the Redskins on this site. I did that because I felt ultra dissappointed and I didn't want my negativity and irrationality to compound the current ridiculous dichotomy between the kings of kool aid and the haterade heroes.

The break accomplished 2 things:

One, I gained perspective. In the two days since our loss, the following have, statistically speaking, happened- 3,000 people have died from cancer, 731,520 babies were born into this world and 14,000 deer have died at the hands of LadyBrave. Splitting our series with the Eagles isn't [I]that[/I] bad.

The second thing it accomplished was to make me appreciate how much I enjoy discussing the redskins on this site. I waste an inordinate amount of time here. And generally enjoy every second. But when people start to talk less about the team and more about how worthless each other's viewpoints are, I feel like the experience is lessened.

Here's what I don't get concerning all of the bitching and moaning: Mods run the site. If they really wanted to unfairly censor those with differing points of view, they'd just ban you and that would be the end of it. Forget namecalling, we'd all just forget there ever was an Offis or a Paulskinsfan or whoever, because they'd cease to exist on this site. Consequently so would a lot of valuable discussion that makes this site so great.

I'm not trying to kiss anyone's ass or anything but I believe that by and large this group of mods does everything it can to maintain and improve the quality of fan interaction on this site. That's not to say that the Mods aren't human. If they care enough about the team to spend whatever ungodly amount of hours it takes to maintain this forum, then obviously they are going to get a little bit annoyed with 14 "Fire Gibbs" threads immediately after a loss. Especially when we have a winning record and at least a puncher's chance to make the playoffs. Believe it or not they probably roll their eyes to the same extent when there are 15 "We are the greatest team since Michael and the archangels took on the Egyptian Firstborns" threads.

What I'm getting at is, take a second to think before you post. Ask yourself- "is what I have to say going to add to the overall quality of the discussion going on right now?" "Am I just venting?" "What am I hoping to accomplish?" "Do I honestly believe what I'm posting or am i just so dissappointed right now that I'm trying to take it out on everone else?" If the answer to any of those is yes, then it's probably best to take a porn break. Come back when you're relaxed.

I have to admit, I am slanted towards taking a positive look at the Redskins if at all possible. (not the easiest when Westbrook runs through the middle of our D for 58 yards and the go ahead score) I'd rather talk about ways we can get better as opposed to ways we suck. If that's not you, that's cool. But I just have to question the fanhood of anyone experiencing schadenfreude over their own team losing just so they can go online and say "I told you so..."

Mods are great and obviously this site would be an absolute disaster without them but I think we can all do our part (especially the ones who've been around for awhile, lurkers and posters alike) to police ourselves. I suggest taking a short break, realizing what makes this site such a great place to waste the workday on and then come back refreshed.

Just a thought...[/quote]

excellent post

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This place is awesome. I've said it before...I used to post at a few other forums, but settled on The Warpath because I felt the caliber of post was more intelligent, and it was pretty low frills. It's hard to scan through posts on other boards because everyone has a goddamn signature banner that's got every color of the rainbow, or you don't agree with the Mods or TPTB, and your ideas tend to get lost in the wash.

Of course there are going to be times when we all don't get along, but if you keep it civil, it'll be kosher.

While it's easy to rely on the Mods to keep a clean house, it helps when the posters keep themselves in check as well. Read over your thread before clicking the reply button, or at least read over it and edit if necessary. I know there have been times where I've written a long rant about something, then deleted it knowing that it wasn't either worth it or wouldn't solve anything. Sometimes the best thing to say is nothing at all...

And after a loss, if you feel like you have to unwind, go hit the Parking Lot threads. Have some fun, watch some goofy YouTube videos, and come back with a clearer mind. Either that, or bust on Earthquake's XBox skills, or Smootsmack's lack of Tecmo Super Bowl Skills or LB's Deerslaying skills.

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[QUOTE=JWsleep;378020]Not to ruin your night but: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown_Massacre#Mass_murder-and-suicide]Jonestown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I almost pointed this out a few times...the Kool-Aid references are not such a good thing...in fact, it's a little disturbing. Not sure why everyone says it, and I'm by no means limiting that statement to this site, it just seems like an odd statement to me. One of, if not the worst mass suicide in the history of the world doesn't seem like a joking matter to me.

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[quote=JWsleep;378020]Not to ruin your night but: [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown_Massacre#Mass_murder-and-suicide"]Jonestown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL][/quote]

This is what I relate it to most:

The idiomatic expression, “drinking the Kool-Aid”, was originally a reference to the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merry_Pranksters"][COLOR=#0000ff]Merry Pranksters[/COLOR][/URL], a group of people associated with novelist [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey"][COLOR=#0000ff]Ken Kesey[/COLOR][/URL] who, in the early 1960s, travelled around the United States and held events called “[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_Tests"][COLOR=#0000ff]Acid Tests[/COLOR][/URL]”, where [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD"][COLOR=#0000ff]LSD[/COLOR][/URL]-laced Kool-Aid was passed out to the public (LSD was legal at that time). Those who drank the “Kool-Aid” passed the “Acid Test”. “Drinking the Kool-Aid” in that context meant accepting the LSD drug culture, and the Pranksters’ “turned on” point of view. These events were described in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Wolfe"][COLOR=#0000ff]Tom Wolfe[/COLOR][/URL]’s 1968 classic, [I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Electric_Kool-Aid_Acid_Test"][COLOR=#0000ff]The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test[/COLOR][/URL][/I].[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-aid#_note-phraseorigin"][COLOR=#800080][4][/COLOR][/URL]

Link: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-aid]Kool-Aid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]