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During gibbs press conf.he was asked about his past QB's and their growing pains. He said at one point (which I recall) Rypien lost his starting job because he couldnt take care of the ball.

I sure hope he isnt concidering pulling JC. MB sure had plenty of time to redeem himself and couldnt. JC f..... up two games but what qb hasnt?

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[quote=Ocliw;382644]During gibbs press conf.he was asked about his past QB's and their growing pains. He said at one point (which I recall) Rypien lost his starting job because he couldnt take care of the ball.

I sure hope he isnt concidering pulling JC. MB sure had plenty of time to redeem himself and couldnt. JC f..... up two games but what qb hasnt?[/quote]


It's true. Some people have been blaming JC for losing the past two games, but we have to remember that he was the reason the games were even close to begin with. He's going to throw INTs, and he's going to fumble the ball, and he deserves some patience from the fans.

That being said, I'm still incredibly angry about all 3 of those interceptions.

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[quote=Ocliw;382644]During gibbs press conf.he was asked about his past QB's and their growing pains. He said at one point (which I recall) Rypien lost his starting job because he couldnt take care of the ball.

I sure hope he isnt concidering pulling JC. MB sure had plenty of time to redeem himself and couldnt. JC f..... up two games but what qb hasnt?[/quote]

Coach Gibbs isn't going to pull Jason Campbell, I know that for a fact. What everyone needs to remember is that Jason is only 25 years old, and hasn't yet completed an entire season as a starter. I think, in my eyes, that he's improved immensely since his first NFL start (which incidentally was against Tampa). I think the next two weeks we will get back over .500, and right back into the wild card mix. The season isn't over yet folks!

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I dont see him pulling Campbell either. Even though Campbell may be to blame or some people are blaming him, bottom line is which QB gives your team the best chance to win.

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I don't think JC will be pulled, I think Gibbs was just trying to say that JC is young and is going to make mistakes but JC definitely needs to play smarter.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;382759]I don't think JC will be pulled, I think Gibbs was just trying to say that JC is young and is going to make mistakes but JC definitely needs to play smarter.[/QUOTE]

I dont really think so either but JC's confidence has to be shaky as hell.

Hearing Gibbs say that may make it worse or could push him to the next level.

Hell who knows. You know what opinions are like.

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Any Qb that throws 50 times a game is going to have turnovers. He shouldnt be benched, Portis should be benched (joking) for fumbling twice and have almost zero running game. Way to get man handled on the 4th and 1. Most of this team is seriously overratted but I wouldnt say that about J campbell.

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[QUOTE=Stacks42;382766]Any Qb that throws 50 times a game is going to have turnovers. He shouldnt be benched, Portis should be benched (joking) for fumbling twice and have almost zero running game. Way to get man handled on the 4th and 1. Most of this team is seriously overratted but I wouldnt say that about J campbell.[/QUOTE]

I read in another thread somehwere tonight that if Portis dresses up for interviews after this performance he needs his ass kicked. I concur.

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If he wont bench Brunell after all the games that he cost us the last 4 years then JC has to bad games...that will be it. I will be off the Gibbs bandwagon. I doubt tha Portis will dress up. He has only dressed up after wins.

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[QUOTE=Stacks42;382766]Way to get man handled on the 4th and 1.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm not sure why Portis couldn't fight through those 3 Bucs who hit him in the backfield. :cheeky-sm

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[quote=Stacks42;382766]Any Qb that throws 50 times a game is going to have turnovers. He shouldnt be benched, Portis should be benched (joking) for fumbling twice and have almost zero running game. Way to get man handled on the 4th and 1. Most of this team is seriously overratted but I wouldnt say that about J campbell.[/quote]

Very very good point. Not to make excuses for JC cause those were bad passes. You just have to take care of the ball down in the red zone. But anytime you throw it that much, you are asking for TO's.

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[QUOTE=Ocliw;382763]I dont really think so either but JC's confidence has to be shaky as hell.

Hearing Gibbs say that may make it worse or could push him to the next level.

Hell who knows. You know what opinions are like.[/QUOTE]

Only in the last stages in the game has his confidence been shaky to me. How many career starts does JC have 16-18 I lost count but look how long it took Peyton to beat the Patriots a while he has been put in positions to win last two games but you will have to lose a couple to know how to win.

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Would Gibbs bench Samuels as well? Would he bench Kendall for letting his guy through to stop us when we only needed a foot? the O Line is more responsible for most of the fumbles because they let our guys get hit by multiple tacklers.

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[QUOTE=JLee9718;383339]Would Gibbs bench Samuels as well? Would he bench Kendall for letting his guy through to stop us when we only needed a foot? the [B]O Line is more responsible for most of the fumbles because they let our guys get hit by multiple tacklers[/B].[/QUOTE]

I don't know, that might be just about as ridiculous as saying its Joe Gibbs fault that we had all those fumbles. Give me a break, Clinton is a running back and should be used to getting hit by 2+ guys on the same play, fumbling is inexcusable.

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It is mainly our Olines fault for all of JC's fumbles, he gets blindsides at least once a game, they need to step up in order for him to get over the next hump in his short career

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[QUOTE=DiehardSkin88;383485][B]It is mainly our Olines fault for all of JC's fumbles, he gets blindsides at least once a game[/B], they need to step up in order for him to get over the next hump in his short career[/QUOTE]

As a QB you have to have a little timer in your head, you have to have instincts. There is that 6th sense that many great QBs have that tells them there is someone right behind them and that they need to tuck the ball or get rid of it. I'm not saying JC won't be great but that timer has got to develop sooner or later, our offensive line can't hold the defensive line on every single play, every single game.

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I have been frustrated with JC, I guess maybe with some of the success he has had and as good as he looks at times I forget he has only been the starter for half of last season and the begining of this season. As many fingers that are pointing at JC there are 4 left over to be pointing at others. Portis 2 fumbles, Moss one fumble. Several dropped passes and at times lack of blocking. It is easy to point out the QB as the problem area because he is the point man, he is the leader, he pulls the trigger. JC is young he is going to make mistakes, it is part of being a QB. however he does make alot of plays also, he put us in the position to win those games and he will learn from his mistakes and will correct him. JC is a worker and he is a gamer, those are the things I take from. JC will be a good QB in this league, he works to hard not to be.

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This just proves that JC should have been the starter all of last year, and these growing pains would have occured at a less costly moment

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[QUOTE=The Zimmermans;383600]This just proves that JC should have been the starter all of last year, and these growing pains would have occured at a less costly moment[/QUOTE]

How so? If it happened last year we'd be complaining that he should have started since the day he was drafted.

It's not like he's never going to make mistakes again. I mean look at former SB Champ and NFL MVP Kurt Warner yesterday, or former SB Champ and NFL MVP Peyton Manning two weeks ago. Happens even to the best.

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[quote=The Zimmermans;383600]This just proves that JC should have been the starter all of last year, and these growing pains would have occured at a less costly moment[/quote]That would have cost us about 3 wins in a season which we went in thinking we could be a SB champion.

Not a great plan.

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So far Campbell isn't making any moves like this:

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Boy, I really hate bringing this up, but Andy Polin had a good question regarding Gibbs and personnel moves as it relates to this conversation:

Would Gibbs be more or less likely to continue playing guys who under-perform if he weren't the one making the decision to bring them here? The question was posed when someone asked if anyone other than Portis had fumbled twice in one half if they would see the field for the rest of the day.

In the Bobby Beathard days, Gibbs would have no personal interest in any player, play the guy who gives his team the best chance to win, bench the players who f up, and have no guilt about it. But now, there could be a tendency to prove a point, by trying to confirm that the players he has acquired are the right guys no matter what they do or how badly they play.

I think it's a legitimate question considering the personnel structure we have here.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;383766]Boy, I really hate bringing this up, but Andy Polin had a good question regarding Gibbs and personnel moves as it relates to this conversation:

Would Gibbs be more or less likely to continue playing guys who under-perform if he weren't the one making the decision to bring them here? The question was posed when someone asked if anyone other than Portis had fumbled twice in one half if they would see the field for the rest of the day.

In the Bobby Beathard days, Gibbs would have no personal interest in any player, play the guy who gives his team the best chance to win, bench the players who f up, and have no guilt about it. But now, there could be a tendency to prove a point, by trying to confirm that the players he has acquired are the right guys no matter what they do or how badly they play.

I think it's a legitimate question considering the personnel structure we have here.[/QUOTE]

How do you explain Lloyd and Archuleta then?

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But see, even with Lloyd and Archuleta, those were guys reportedly suggested by Saunders and Gregg Williams respectively. Not Gibbs, so again, he had no personal connection with those guys.

Would Gibbs have put up with two fumbles from one running back in such a short span if it were any other player? Can't we agree that he never would have stood for that back in the heyday?

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;383772]But see, even with Lloyd and Archuleta, those were guys reportedly suggested by Saunders and Gregg Williams respectively. Not Gibbs, so again, he had no personal connection with those guys.

Would Gibbs have put up with two fumbles from one running back in such a short span if it were any other player? Can't we agree that he never would have stood for that back in the heyday?[/QUOTE]

Really I don't know.

But I'm not going to lie, I don't hold anything Polin or Czaban (was he doing the show with Czaban?) opine with much respect. They've proven to me over and over again to be petty people. It's personal.

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Alrighty then. I think there could be something to it. For the record, I'm against calling for any of the coaches to step down, I just think there needs to be a change with the personnel structure.

It was the Sports Reporters on SportsTalk 980. Czaban I can understand, because he can be scathing with his opinions. Polin though, seems more level headed, not as vicious; but he's not afraid to call it like he sees it.

The thing to remember though is that they are both fans. Just highly critical fans -- basically the opposite of the kool aid types.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;383766]Boy, I really hate bringing this up, but Andy Polin had a good question regarding Gibbs and personnel moves as it relates to this conversation:

Would Gibbs be more or less likely to continue playing guys who under-perform if he weren't the one making the decision to bring them here? The question was posed when someone asked if anyone other than Portis had fumbled twice in one half if they would see the field for the rest of the day.

In the Bobby Beathard days, Gibbs would have no personal interest in any player, play the guy who gives his team the best chance to win, bench the players who f up, and have no guilt about it. But now, there could be a tendency to prove a point, by trying to confirm that the players he has acquired are the right guys no matter what they do or how badly they play.

I think it's a legitimate question considering the personnel structure we have here.[/QUOTE]

Saying Gibbs wouldn't have any personal interest in any player back in the Bobby Beathard days is just plain out incorrect. Gibbs had a large say so in player personal back in the glory years as BB or CC.

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How would Brunell do at the helm of this offense?

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Gibbs won't pull JC, he is just voicing concern. However the Danny will pull Gibbs and I see a certain Pittsburg coach in our future.