Sean Taylor Cap Ramifications
 

Just wondering if anyone knows (Schneed) what are the salary cap ramifications of Sean Taylor's tragic death? Does the NFL grant cap relief for something like this? How does this effect the Redskins cap?

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I imagine there would be some sort of relief to the team.

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Isn't this a bit inappropriate?

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You know i had the same thought this morning, and it made me feel like crap. The man had not even been dead for 12 hours and my mind had moved to this? This is going to change the Redskins whole secondary Def. not only losing their best player (forever), who knows what S. Springs is going to do, and if Rogers can recover from his injury. This def was built around ST and now he is gone, such a shame.

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Yeah, we can talk about this in the offseason or in a few weeks, but not now. Too early.

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[quote=freddyg12;384141]Isn't this a bit inappropriate?[/quote]

Maybe a bit, but at the same time I'm not going to rule out any discussion today, unless of course it's some troll on here talking trash.

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I did some quick checking regarding the Darrent Williams situation in Denver and was not able to find anything. I seriosuly doubt though that the NFL doesn't grant relief.

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dont mean to sound rude. but who cares at this point how his salary effects the cap

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it maybe alittle early, but i also wondered about it this morning. i would be shocked if the league doesn't grant some sort of relief

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I admit that I wondered the same thing, then I hit myself in the groin for even thinking about it at a time like this.

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i dont think he was trying to disrespect Taylor by starting this thread.
The fact remains that while everyone will miss Sean, most of us only knew him as a football player- more specifically a Redskins Football player (the reason why we are all member of this site)- so asking about he salary cap ramifications, while at face value may seem crass, is relevant.

I also mean no disrespect when writing this... I also think it may be a means of coping for some people to talk about team ramifications...

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To say these type of post are out of line is not really fair to the person who wondered how this would effect us as a team. He was a football player and thats how I have known ST and become a fan of his. Even with this tragic death people will have questions to how it will effect the team that ST loved. Everyone has different ways of dealing with these types of things so lets not be to hard on someone who has questions like these. I know I will miss him out on the field and cannot help but wonder how we will ever find another player to take over for him. If you noticed I did not say replace because we can never do that.

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I agree we know him as football player. I love the guy for what he did on the field but say I know him as a person would be a insult to his family.

I don't think this thread is inapproiate. This is how his death will affect us, we lost a hero that helped our team win. =(

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At first I thought the thread was in bad taste, but it actually gets me thinking about something different than my deep sadness and sorrow for ST.......it kinda changes the subject for a few moments

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ok. we all are intitled our opinions and i think it is too early to care about the salary cap. this year is already over half way over. how about a thread asking who is going to take his roster spot?

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[QUOTE=firstdown;384166]To say these type of post are out of line is not really fair to the person who wondered how this would effect us as a team. He was a football player and thats how I have known ST and become a fan of his. Even with this tragic death people will have questions to how it will effect the team that ST loved. Everyone has different ways of dealing with these types of things so lets not be to hard on someone who has questions like these. I know I will miss him out on the field and cannot help but wonder how we will ever find another player to take over for him. If you noticed I did not say replace because we can never do that.[/QUOTE]

As a football player Taylor well be very hard to replace. Cap or no!!!! Not many players in college or a free agent will fill his spot!!! In just looking at it in a fooball way this is going to take years to over come!

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Sorry - I did not mean to disrepect Taylor, his family, the team and any Redskin fans. I actually regretted posting this right after I submitted it.

Rest in Peace Sean Taylor and my condolences to his family, Redskins players/coaches/team and fans across the world.

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I don't think this thread is inappropriate. The players have to somehow figure out how to play this weekend, so it's not off base to mention this. There has to be some clause somewhere that grants relief for this kind of situation.

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[QUOTE=Bill B;384186]Sorry - I did not mean to disrepect Taylor, his family, the team and any Redskin fans. I actually regretted posting this right after I submitted it.

Rest in Peace Sean Taylor and my condolences to his family, Redskins players/coaches/team and fans across the world.[/QUOTE]

I know you didn't mean any disrespect and it's a fair question. As I pointed out, I thought the same thing. But, in all honesty, I snapped back and said who cares given that we just lost the guy a few hours ago. I didn't mean to kill the thread.

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I don't think anyone is disrespecting Bill B, just not sure this is the proper time. Anyway, I think we've all had this thought or a variant of it cross our minds, immediately followed by 2 minutes of cursing at ourselves for being so shallow.

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People deal with things differently. I don't see this as inappropriate, but as a distraction from what is truly a tragedy. And while some may think it's inappropriate, unfortunately there are several members of the Redskins franchise who had to deal with this scenario before this thread was ever started...

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[QUOTE=Bill B;384186]Sorry - I did not mean to disrepect Taylor, his family, the team and any Redskin fans. I actually regretted posting this right after I submitted it.

Rest in Peace Sean Taylor and my condolences to his family, Redskins players/coaches/team and fans across the world.[/QUOTE]

You should not feel bad. It isn't disprespectful to wonder how this affects the team logistically. We all care about this team for so many things. One of the main things is success on the field and Sean's death affects that exactly the same way it affects those in his personal life. Certainly to a much less important degree but no less. The salary cap ramifications are a completely separate issue than our respect and love for ST are.

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I don't think people should feel bad for wondering this. It's somewhat natural. For me, something like this helps me not to focus directly on the death.

Blah, I can't even think and write today. Im trying to say something but Im sure I'd butcher it and it would be horribly misconstrued.

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Also, in my opinion I thought Taylor was not only our best defensive player but our best player on the team period. I think it will be one of those moments that we will not be able to replace him period - he is one of those one in a generation type of players that is not really replaceable.
Hopefully Sean is in a better place and they find the person(s) who did this and bring them to justice.

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Unfortunately, it is treated by the NFL as any career ending injury. As horrible as it sounds, officially he will be put on the PUP list for the rest of this year.

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can we put this thread away for now..... come back to it in a few weeks after the shock has gone away....I myself am still in that disbelief stage....

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I believe the league's policy would be to treat the next year as though he had been released. That would mean a $+ million cap hit in 2008, unless the league granted some relief, or monies were repaid. I can't imagine the team would go after money from Taylor's fiancee and 18 month old daughter, so I'll just feel dirty for typing this.

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[QUOTE=Bill B;384207]Also, in my opinion I thought Taylor was not only our best defensive player but our best player on the team period. I think it will be one of those moments that we will not be able to replace him period - he is one of those one in a generation type of players that is not really replaceable.
Hopefully Sean is in a better place and they find the person(s) who did this and bring them to justice.[/QUOTE]

For me I hope they find who ever did this and as you said bring them to justice!!! Florida has the death penalty and I hope they get this guy!!!! Going in to someones home while they are a sleep and doing this with a child in the house is the low of the low!

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[quote=freddyg12;384141]Isn't this a bit inappropriate?[/quote]

I couldn't agree more.

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I was worried that someone might start a thread like this today. Come on, people -- we're classier than this. The man had an 18th month old little girl and was going to be married. At the moment, I don't give a flying fuck about the cap ramifications, roster spots, or any of that shit. Portis and Gibbs said it well yesterday -- this is not about the game but a man's life. I vote to lock this down at least until there's been a memorial service for Sean.

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F*** football right now! send the money to his poor girl friend and daughter....i dont want to watch any more football this year. We should grant relief to the players and let them all go home for the season and give time to process. Imagine if we are crying and we didnt even know him, think of how this is effecting his team and friends!

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I think we can all feel utterly terrible about ST and still continue to talk Redskin football. This is The Warpath after all, there isn't going to be any new developments for Sean, so at some point the topic of conversation is going to have to move beyond this tragedy, and on to it's ramifications.

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I think right now there are a lot of new people on this sight and they are venting there sadness/ fustration in the wrong thread. We all care here this is just one aspect. Good lord!

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I agree, this isn't a tasteless thread. A bit early for some but it's a classic "Don't read it if you don't like it" thread. It seems like an honest question, not one in which Bill B is rejoicing with some newfound money. If it's too early for [B][U]you[/U][/B] skip it and read it when [B][U]you're[/U][/B] okay with it.

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Frankly is won't matter for another 4 or5 months. So why bring this up now?

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I have no problem with asking or answering this question. If you're grieving and don't want to deal with this right now, that's your personal way of dealing with death. If you're wondering on the logistics while at the same time grieving, then that's your personal way of dealing.

No way is right or wrong, it's all personal, so let's lay off each other.

My understanding is that this is the equivalent of someone going on IR, or PUP, for the rest of the season. This means we continue to carry him on our books this year. Meaning there is no hit to the cap in 2007.

But in 2008 we'll effectively be releasing him from our roster. He was scheduled to count $1.9 million against our 2008 cap. Now his bonuses will accelerate, and he'll count $4.2 million instead. So essentially, we take a cap hit of $2.3 million in 2008. Unless the league gives us relief or something.

I'm still crying periodically today, having a tough time with this. But there's nothing wrong with asking a legit question on logistics.

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I'm not going to attack anyone. But the cap is the last thing on my mind today. I just don't give a damn and I'm not sure how anyone else could give a damn. The guy just died and people want to talk about the cap???????????????????????????????????????? Sigh.........................

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With all due respect, I completely disagree -- I do think there is a time for this discussion, and now is not the time. if anyone on this site had a family member die, I'd expect you'd not want to launch into a discussion about the finanacial implications of the loss within 24 hours. Do you really think it is defensible to have a thread about the cap implications within hours after Sean's death? If your answer is yes, how comfortable would you feel defending that response to a member of the Redskins? I can see way to a "don't read if you don't like it" response to another thread about Brandon Lloyd (which we're all sick about), but this is beyond the pale.

I was saying to someone this morning that it is hard to find a silver lining in any of this, but if there is something, it may be that it causes us all to realize that there are more important things that winning or losing on Sundays in the fall. The Post article about the vigil last night reinforced this, as have ALL of the comments by Sean's teammates and the Redskins organization. I have been a Redskins fan for over 30 years, but I can put that allegiance on hold for a while out of respect by a man who gave a lot to his team, who turned his life around by all accounts, and out of respect for his family and teammates. It is a sad day indeed if others are unable to do so.

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I just hope the Redskins (players,coaches, and organization) makes sure that his daughter and GF/fiancee never want for anything.

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[QUOTE=Stacks42;384385]I just hope the Redskins (players,coaches, and organization) makes sure that his daughter and GF/fiancee never want for anything.[/QUOTE]

To be honest I dont think that the Redskin's job. That's why people have wills. I sure hope ST had a will/trust/whatever to make sure that the millions of dollars he made playing professional football would go to help provide for his daughter's future and anyone else he wanted his money to go to.

As a sidelight, this is a reminder that anything can happen to anyone at any time so please everyone on the Warpath get to a lawyer and set up a will/trust and durable power of atty in case something happens. Your family will be thankful you did.