Peter King's take on the Taylor tragedy
 

I know a lot of people here hate Peter King, but I think we wrote a nice piece on Taylor, media's tendency to rush to judgement, and the effects a player's past may have on his future. Personally, I think it's worth the quick read.

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/11/27/taylor/index.html?eref=T1]SI.com - Writers - Peter King: Taylor's death will have deep impact on 'Skins, players around NFL - Tuesday November 27, 2007 12:43PM[/url]

Mods, if this doesn't warrent its own thread or whatever please feel free to merge or lock it.

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People can never completely be free from their past. They can put it behind them or move on but complete freedom can not be achieved. I believe the saying is, "The past is prologue."

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trouble follows trouble. A person like Sean Taylor probably has enemies because of his thuggish past. The guy who shot him most likely knew him. You would never see Tim Duncan getting shot up.

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[quote=run2lsu;384583]trouble follows trouble. A person like Sean Taylor probably has enemies because of his thuggish past. The guy who shot him most likely knew him. You would never see Tim Duncan getting shot up.[/quote]


If that is the case...previous enemies...thats a shame. I believe too that based on what i have read and seen that it is going to be something like that. Which i base this opinion on the break in 8 days ago where nothing was taken. Why he would have gone home and better yet no alarm system? I guess its easy to say what if now.....he will be missed on and off the field.

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[quote=run2lsu;384583]trouble follows trouble. A person like Sean Taylor probably has enemies because of his thuggish past. The guy who shot him most likely knew him. You would never see Tim Duncan getting shot up.[/quote]
Ok besides the one brandishing a firearm trying to figure out who took something of his what else did he do for you to say he had a thuggish past? You have a total of two post and both suggest that Taylor brought this trouble onto himself and if thats all you can add go find another site to post its not need here.

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[QUOTE=vaoutlaws2006;384588]If that is the case...previous enemies...thats a shame. I believe too that based on what i have read and seen that it is going to be something like that. Which i base this opinion on the break in 8 days ago where nothing was taken. Why he would have gone home and better yet no alarm system? I guess its easy to say what if now.....he will be missed on and off the field.[/QUOTE]


Yep, everyone saying this some "random burglary" does not deal with crime. As a criminal investigator for 15 years I assure you contrary to popular opinion, random crime is very very rare, certainly nothing like this. The Weird-Shit-O-Meter is peggin' the needle on this. Not long ago ST was waving a gun around in someone's face because he thought they stole his 4-wheeler. I guess he was willing to kill someone over an ATV?

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[quote=run2lsu;384583]trouble follows trouble. A person like Sean Taylor probably has enemies because of his thuggish past. The guy who shot him most likely knew him. You would never see Tim Duncan getting shot up.[/quote]

It's really not the time for stuff like this. Either respect that or you'll get run.

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[QUOTE=firstdown;384594]Ok besides the one brandishing a firearm trying to figure out who took something of his what else did he do for you to say he had a thuggish past? You have a total of two post and both suggest that Taylor brought this trouble onto himself and if thats all you can add go find another site to post its not need here.[/QUOTE]

You really don't think he was thug??? This is what is wrong with people's obsession with sports, they will forgive and look over the worst kind of charachter and make thme out to be some responsible law abiding citizen. His house had already been broken into 10 days ago, when police reports surmised that someone had entered through a front window before looking through Taylor's personal affairs and leaving a kitchen knife on a bed???? Come on dude, if you want to live you life with blinders on, k nock yourself out if it makes you feel better. This was a "warning" gone bad. They coulda at least stuck a decapitated horse's head in his bedsheets.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;384606]It's really not the time for stuff like this. Either respect that or you'll get run.[/QUOTE]

Really??? When is the time for stuff like this??? maybe it's too little to late of this. I heard on a sports show last night that his phone lines had been cut. Sounds like he was marked for some reason.

This was clearly not random, the target was Sean Taylor, nothing was stolen so it damn sure wasn't a burglary, so what else is there?

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Look his past is what is, but clearly he was trying to make changes in his life and seemed to be headed in that direction. Unlike the media, it is not our job here on this site to cover the entire story. I think in this forum we should simply pay our respects at this time to a life lost and discuss the "why did this happen" later.

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[quote=run2lsu;384613]Really??? When is the time for stuff like this??? maybe it's too little to late of this. I heard on a sports show last night that his phone lines had been cut. Sounds like he was marked for some reason.

This was clearly not random, the target was Sean Taylor, nothing was stolen so it damn sure wasn't a burglary, so what else is there?[/quote]

Let's not forget Sean Taylor was the victim here.

Yes he had a troubled past but from all accounts he appeared to have moved on from that.

What are you trying to do here other than rile people up??

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He was a victim of senseless violence period. No if ands or buts about it. Regardless of anything this was absolutely senseless violence.

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[QUOTE=vaoutlaws2006;384625]He was a victim of senseless violence period. No if ands or buts about it. Regardless of anything this was absolutely senseless violence.[/QUOTE]

Senseless but not random, it was targeted and the question is why????? Will any of the gangstas who did this talk when caught????? Most of them do.

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[QUOTE=run2lsu;384583]trouble follows trouble. A person like Sean Taylor probably has enemies because of his thuggish past. The guy who shot him most likely knew him. You would never see Tim Duncan getting shot up.[/QUOTE]

Nice, blame it on Sean. Be prepared to be blasted or run off the site.

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[quote=run2lsu;384607]You really don't think he was thug??? This is what is wrong with people's obsession with sports, they will forgive and look over the worst kind of charachter and make thme out to be some responsible law abiding citizen. His house had already been broken into 10 days ago, when police reports surmised that someone had entered through a front window before looking through Taylor's personal affairs and leaving a kitchen knife on a bed???? Come on dude, if you want to live you life with blinders on, k nock yourself out if it makes you feel better. This was a "warning" gone bad. They coulda at least stuck a decapitated horse's head in his bedsheets.[/quote]

Bye. Jerk.

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[quote=GMScud;384656]Bye. Jerk.[/quote]


well put

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Back on topic, here's another great article by King:

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/11/27/taylor.reaction/index.html]SI.com - Writers - Peter King: London Fletcher calls Taylor a leader - Tuesday November 27, 2007 10:11PM[/url]

This one is mainly about London Fletcher's admiration for what a great player Sean was, and how he was really emerging as a great team leader.
He says that Sean was telling everyone in the huddle during the New England game to forget about the score and to just keep playing their hearts out.
He also says that Sean was one of the top 3 players he's been able to play with during his 10 year career even though they were only together for 9 games!
And he also sheds just a little more light on why Sean was even down at that house in the first place, which is something that I know is still troubling some people.

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[quote=run2lsu;384607]You really don't think he was thug??? This is what is wrong with people's obsession with sports, they will forgive and look over the worst kind of charachter and make thme out to be some responsible law abiding citizen. His house had already been broken into 10 days ago, when police reports surmised that someone had entered through a front window before looking through Taylor's personal affairs and leaving a kitchen knife on a bed???? Come on dude, if you want to live you life with blinders on, k nock yourself out if it makes you feel better. This was a "warning" gone bad. They coulda at least stuck a decapitated horse's head in his bedsheets.[/quote]
You did not answer my question unless you think ST was a Thug because his house was broken into 8 days before this happened. I'm surprised you have not been ban from this site because you have added nothing.

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[quote=run2lsu;384637]Senseless but not random, it was targeted and the question is why????? Will any of the gangstas who did this talk when caught????? Most of them do.[/quote]

This guy is clearly trolling mods....Hes made 7 posts all about sean ebing a thug and deserving this somehow. He should be banned

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i thought what he had to say about sean taylor last night on inside the nfl was like a last dig at him.peter king is a fat ignorant egomaniac in love with the dallas cowboys and the patriots.i never thought much of him before,and i think even less of him now.maybe he and mike wilbon can get stranded on a desert island somewhere!!

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[QUOTE=redskinsfanatic;385887]i thought what he had to say about sean taylor last night on inside the nfl was like a last dig at him.peter king is a fat ignorant egomaniac in love with the dallas cowboys and the patriots.i never thought much of him before,and i think even less of him now.maybe he and mike wilbon can get stranded on a desert island somewhere!![/QUOTE]

What did he say?

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he said that a few players in the league made themselves"distant"from sean taylor cause they thought he was trouble.something to that effect!i thought that chris carter hit the nail on the head with what he said at the first of the show.he said that he wish he could have told ST something at the rookie camp he skipped a few years back and then maybe he could have made it to the age of 25 on april 1st.he said something that i did'nt know which is the main cause of death for black males in the usa between the ages of 15-24 is murder.
and to me,that is something that everybody whether it be a white guy like me,a blackman,a latino man,or a spaceman has got to find a way to stop that.who knows?the man who finds a cure for cancer or invents a way for time travel may be among these youngmen who have died a very violent death.this is everybody's country and the sooner everybody sees that,the better this place will be!!!!!

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Wow actually a nice article by Peter King. As Madden would say “Amazing!”