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MTK 11-29-2007 02:28 PM

Colin Cowturd on Sean Taylor
 
Just in case there was any doubt as to how much of a douche bag this guy is:

[URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2007/11/colin_cowherd_on_sean_taylor.html#comments"]Colin Cowherd on Sean Taylor - D.C. Sports Bog[/URL]

One of the dominant questions sports opinion types have grappled with this week is this: Was Sean Taylor's death a surprise. Famously, [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/11/20/DI2007112000544.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Michael Wilbon [/COLOR][/URL]and [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/27/AR2007112701111.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Len Shapiro [/COLOR][/URL]both said no. This struck me as a needlessly provocative and confrontational way to approach the story in its opening days, and frankly, I don't believe that they weren't at all surprised. I mean, really, someone told them that the day after a big Redskins loss in Tampa their best player had been critically shot in his bedroom in an upper-class neighborhood Miami, and they weren't at all taken aback? They weren't at all like, "Whoa!," not even for a few seconds? I knew Sean Taylor's history, and when I got off that plane from Tampa and this Skins fan named Robert came up to me and told me what happened, I was damn sure like, "Whoa!" I know there's violence in Iraq, but if I learned that a high-ranking administration official had secretly traveled to Baghdad and been killed, I'd be like, "Whoa!" at least for a few seconds.

The counter argument goes, if you were told a Redskins player would be shot last weekend, wouldn't your first guess be Sean Taylor? Yeah, I guess. How about this, though: if you were told a Washington Wizards player was going to quit basketball next week, renounce all his material possessions, dress in rags, become a raw-food vegan, join the Peace Corps and move to Tanzania, 100 percent of you would guess it would be Etan Thomas, right? That wouldn't mean the action itself wouldn't be shocking and surprising.

And now people are firing back at the initial round of "not-a-surprise" columns: read, for example, [URL="http://www.sportsline.com/columns/story/10500502"][COLOR=#0000ff]Mike Freeman[/COLOR][/URL], who writes "can we all take a breath, remove our CSI badges, and see Taylor as he is: someone who suffered a horrible death? Can we all be human beings for just one second? A second. That's not so much to ask, is it?" Or read [URL="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.steele28nov28,0,3363292.column"][COLOR=#0000ff]David Steele[/COLOR][/URL]. Or check out [URL="http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/index.php/2007/11/28/everybody-grieves-in-their-own-way/"][COLOR=#0000ff]this City Paper blog[/COLOR][/URL], which quotes Wash Times beat guy John Mitchell calling Shapiro "a racist conniving dog of a skunk."


Fun stuff. Anyhow, not surprisingly, ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd has been far ahead of the pack in stomach-turning 'baggery. From the beginning, he argued that this could not be a random act, which is fine, but he insisted on doing so in the most obnoxious, self-serving and ruthless manner possible. The audio clips of his Sean Taylor stuff are [URL="http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/show?showId=theherd"][COLOR=#0000ff]prominently sprinkled about his page[/COLOR][/URL], allowing him hopefully to at least make some coin off of throwing barbs at a dead guy. From yesterday's show:[INDENT]Serious grown-up talk here. If you can't handle grown-up stuff, then turn the radio to another channel right now, give you about five seconds. We're going to talk about Sean Taylor's death...If you can't deal with that, I have no problem with that at all, none. Right now turn the radio to Oldies 107.8 or another station....All right, now it's just grown-ups, we've gotten the kids out of the room, let's proceed.[/INDENT]If you actually want to have a serious discussion, this has immediately disqualified you. This is pure drivel, meant to do nothing but incite.[INDENT]Sean Taylor, great player has a history of really really bad judgment, [I]really[/I] really bad judgment. Cops, assault, spitting, DUI. I'm supposed to believe his judgment got significantly better in two years, from horrible to fantastic? 'But Colin he cleaned up his act.' Well yeah, just because you clean the rug doesn't mean you got everything out. Sometimes you've got stains, stuff so deep it never ever leaves.[/INDENT]Stains? Spitting and a DUI arrest that was thrown out are stains so deep they never leave? T.O. has spit. LenDale White has spit. Chris Samuels claimed that Antonio Smith spit. Charles Barkley spit on a young girl. Roberto Alomar spit at an umpire. Lot of people have stains, I guess. Wouldn't be surprised if any of them die, I guess. Seriously, there is one prior public incident in Sean Taylor's life that causes serious concern in this case, the one involving guns. It sure isn't the fact that he spit on a player or had a DUI charge that was dismissed.[INDENT]My gut feeling with this story, and we said yesterday, yesterday was not really a day to go out, yesterday was sort of a day, you know, grieving, but we're past the memorial part. It's grown-up time, ask yourself realistic questions....Just because somebody cleans the rugs doesn't mean there aren't stains. No matter what those commercials, OxiClean, tell you on cable TV, some stains you can't get out. And if you have bad judgment for 23 years of your life, even if you clean it up, your judgment doesn't get great over night.[/INDENT]I suppose this is true enough, in general. How it relates to this case, neither I nor Colin Cowherd has any idea, since we have absolutely no idea how Taylor's judgment related to what happened to him. Cowherd is just throwing stuff like that out there to stir passions among his listeners. It's nasty stuff. There is no possible justification for using "stains you can't get out" in what you're claiming is "serious, grown-up talk." That's media jackal talk.[INDENT]I want to know the truth. I want to know the details. It's not pretty? I don't care, I'm a grown-up. I can handle not pretty. A lot of people can't in the media, a lot of people can't, 'Oh, wah wah wah, sensitivity, he's a great person, wah wah wah.' Hey, I don't care, that's fine, he died, let's get to the truth. We're all about the truth. We always say on this show, we're not always good, we're always honest. Just give me honesty.[/INDENT]Colin, you're a brave soldier for journalistic freedom and investigative verve. All of us innocent souls who chose not to use the phrase "stains you can't get out" in the first few days are, as you said, "sheep...like 95 percent of the media." But you're a grown-up. You can launch random, loaded phrases from the truth-seeking depth of your soul, because you, my journalistic hero, can handle it.

So that was yesterday. And then I'm listening today, and Cowherd quotes [URL="http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/11/29/antrel-rolle-on-sean-taylor-theyve-been-targeting-him/"][COLOR=#0000ff]Antrel Rolle's remarks [/COLOR][/URL]and then, I swear, gloats over the fact that his "gut feeling" has been proven correct, that Taylor's death was surely not a random act. It's hard for me even to know how to respond to someone who would publicly gloat over something like this, and my attempted tape recording of the program didn't come out well, but I can tell you that he talked about CIA profiling and diversity and, well, this:[INDENT]I didn't grow up African American. I grew up middle class. I wanted Stephen A.'s perspective on the story. And during this story I leaned on Stephen A., Michael Wilbon and Jason Whitlock for a perspective I don't have. You walk around ESPN, it's in the halls, on the posters, Diversity, Capital D, big letter. You know why Diversity's really important at ESPN, a big company? Because it gives you more people with unique perspectives. And if you're a growing company, you want to stay fresh, you need to have a 23-year old Hispanic gal or guy tell us what's going on in your community. Asian, white, black, Hispanic, everybody, new voices, young voices, old voices. You walk the halls of ESPN, it's the United Nations. It's great. Canadians, Hispanics, Europeans. They give us a perspective we don't have.[/INDENT]Ok. Awesome. And then he concludes:[INDENT]No, all the information's not in. But I feel pretty confident that my gut feeling, like any of yours, by the way, is right and was right.[/INDENT]Well, again, congratulations Colin. You, indeed, are the big winner this week. Enjoy your success.

GridIron26 11-29-2007 02:35 PM

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Wow, just speechless to this article.. I just don't understand this man.. I am just glad that we Redskins fans know the real Sean Taylor..

BleedBurgundy 11-29-2007 02:37 PM

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Some people are willing to sell their soul for a dollar. Prime example.

freddyg12 11-29-2007 02:50 PM

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Everybody right now is writing stories & talking about it based on virtually no evidence that is known to the public.

What I like about Whitlock's article is that he states that it is a pattern, whether true or not, that Sean died by the hands of another black man, and that he's essentially willing to bet that it was. He then gives his reasoning for it.

Cowherd, as he always does, simply says I know this is the truth & damn you if you think otherwise. Whitlock is a pro journalist, Cowherd is an entertainer (and yes a douche bag as well).

GMScud 11-29-2007 03:09 PM

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What an unbelievable POS. I'd love to smack that guy.

Paintrain 11-29-2007 03:22 PM

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As I said the other day about him, he's what's wrong with the media.. He's a pompous, talentless talking head who gets paid well to spew negativity to generate ratings and buzz..

Dan LeBetard (who BTW is furious with how Taylor's past is being thrown into every story about what happened) says all the time on the radio down here that society feeds on the media's insistence to define someone by their worst public moment. Having that kind of power is a responsibility that is taken far too lightly by the media culture today.

mheisig 11-29-2007 03:26 PM

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The problem isn't really WHAT Cowturd is saying as much as it's WHEN he's saying it. Right now all we know is that Sean Taylor is no longer with us. We know nothing about who killed him, how he died, whether it was related to his past or not. Concluding otherwise is ridiculous.

Cowturd may very well be right. This might be someone who had it out for Sean over some longstanding problem or vendetta that's been present in Sean's life for some time.

At this point, however, why speculate and offer up pure conjecture? Let's grieve and mourn the loss of a human being who appeared to be getting his life straightened out.

[B]IF[/B] it comes out that Sean was killed by someone from his past and it's all related, then we can discuss it when the facts present themselves, but why now? Why so much speculation? Just let him rest in peace until the facts come out.

MTK 11-29-2007 03:27 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;385809]As I said the other day about him, he's what's wrong with the media.. He's a pompous, talentless talking head who gets paid well to spew negativity to generate ratings and buzz..

Dan LeBetard (who BTW is furious with how Taylor's past is being thrown into every story about what happened) says all the time on the radio down here that [B]society feeds on the media's insistence to define someone by their worst public moment[/B]. Having that kind of power is a responsibility that is taken far too lightly by the media culture today.[/quote]

Sad but true.

GhettoDogAllStars 11-29-2007 03:42 PM

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The two things that offend me the most:

"And if you have bad judgment for 23 years of your life, even if you clean it up, your judgment doesn't get great over night."

- 23 years, huh? So he was born with bad judgment? If so, who isn't?

"I didn't grow up African American. I grew up middle class."

- So there are no middle class African Americans? You're either one or the other? Didn't Sean grow up middle class? I fail to see how his race has anything to do with this.

These two items suggest to me that Cowherd has a bias. He thinks Sean Taylor [I]always[/I] had bad judgment -- from the day he was born. And, it also tells me that he is racist, and/or has a bias concerning race (which is basically the same thing).

Therefore, nothing he says regarding this incident has any credibility.

SmootSmack 11-29-2007 03:55 PM

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What frustrates me most about him is that he has such a broad distribution that his outlandish comments and behavior are often seen as the voice of all media. Too often, broad strokes about the media are painted based on one's reaction to Cowherd.

It would be akin to calling out this site because of the comments of one member.

Unfortunately Cowherd tends to thrive on the controversy. So the more he get people agitated, the more he will belabor his point.

He's not easy, that's for sure.

Dlyne8r 11-29-2007 03:58 PM

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This is the reason I no longer tune in to this insensitive moronic idiot. After listening yesterday on the radio to the rant you qoute in the beginning of your post, I knew exactly where he was heading but chose to listen anyway just to verify my perception of Cowturd. It was a defining moment for me and I decided to exercise my right to "turn the dial" as he dared. And I did. For good. I also knew today that he would be crowing about Antrel Rolle's comments as validity to his skewed viewpoint. So, I again tuned out. Personalities such as Cowturds are usually derived from an upbringing without love or nurturing that creates an undying need for attention to overcome great insecurities. But, he no longer upsets me as I no longer give him the opportunity to be heard.

VTSkins897 11-29-2007 04:41 PM

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he's just a little pissant.. good responses to his comments.

FRPLG 11-29-2007 06:12 PM

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This is what gets me so much about all of this. From all acounts when he was drafted he had a spotless record.

He makes a few poor but completely irrelevant choices, missing the rookie symposium, spitting, working out on his own, being distant to the media. All irrelevant in just about any way.

He gets tagged for a DUI that got thrown out. Not just a 'technical' throw out but a 'sounds like he didn't reven do it' throw. Basically irrelevant.

And the gun situation involved people who he believed STOLE from him. He didn't go after random people.

So most of this bad behavior that symbolizes his thug lifestyle is BS and the one thing that wasn't at least has some context.

But people act like he was a complete thug.

70Chip 11-29-2007 10:18 PM

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If he's so brave, one wonders why he felt the need to shield himself from the inevitable charges of racism by bloviating about how ESPN is the United Nations. This line is particularly bizarre:

"[I]It's great. Canadians, Hispanics, Europeans. They give us a perspective we don't have[/I]."

Wow. Canadians AND Europeans. We just don't get enough Dutch perspective when tragedies like this occurr. And, who can argue with the idea that Canadians offer a unique perspective on life in South Florida.

Here's what Cowherd was really saying in that last paragraph:

"There's a good chance that someone may accuse me of racism over the statements I've made the last few days. So, not wanting to end up like Don Imus, I'm going to mention a black guy that I know and also offer a first draft for ESPN's next sensitivity training manual. I'm totally down with the whole PC thing and if anyone doubts that, you're probaly suffering from a lack of Australian perspective, which you would have if you worked at great place like ESPN, which has long been in the vanguard of promoting workplace diversity. Did I mention the black guy?"

SteelandSkin 11-29-2007 10:29 PM

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;385765]Wow, just speechless to this article.. I just don't understand this man.. I am just glad that we Redskins fans know the real Sean Taylor..[/QUOTE]

He sounds as idiotic as pencilneck collinsworth is analyzing football games.

SkinEmAll 11-30-2007 01:07 AM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;385823]The two things that offend me the most:

"And if you have bad judgment for 23 years of your life, even if you clean it up, your judgment doesn't get great over night."

- 23 years, huh? So he was born with bad judgment? If so, who isn't?

"I didn't grow up African American. I grew up middle class."

- So there are no middle class African Americans? You're either one or the other? Didn't Sean grow up middle class? I fail to see how his race has anything to do with this.

These two items suggest to me that Cowherd has a bias. He thinks Sean Taylor [I]always[/I] had bad judgment -- from the day he was born. And, it also tells me that he is racist, and/or has a bias concerning race (which is basically the same thing).

Therefore, nothing he says regarding this incident has any credibility.[/quote]

man those are excellent points. I say we bombard espn with complaints. yeah I know nothing will happen, but maybe we can atleast aggravate the piss out of him/espn. I mean the guy is a real f'n moron. I stopped listening to him along time ago, he is 100% dick.

DynamiteRave 11-30-2007 01:21 AM

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It seems like he's saying because he's Black and grew up making bad decisions he must have continued making them throughout his life. I, like Ghettodog, hate that statement about not growing up African American but him growing up middle class. -I- grew up as what one would say is somewhere between Middle Class and working class and I have made bad decisions yet have had every opportunity that my White counterparts have had. Race isn't and never should have been the issue with ST.

Taylor isn't some thug who was roaming the streets and a victim of violence. I mean the guy was EDUCATED. He was a college student. He wasn't stupid and it pisses me off that people are making him out to be some hoodrat. Its hard to come up from a not nice neighborhood and make something of yourself.

So many people nowadays of all races, bitch about how Black people from the inner city don't better themselves and ST is one of the rare few who DID. Instead of making a quick buck on the corner slinging drugs, he went through high school AND college AND made a career in playing football.

Damn, give the guy a break.

70Chip 11-30-2007 01:34 AM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;385823]
"I didn't grow up African American. I grew up middle class."

[/quote]

One wonders how ESPN will be able to continue employing a man who has made such an overtly racist comment. If they are as devoted to diversity as Cowherd was claiming, they need to cut him loose.

JWsleep 11-30-2007 02:01 AM

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Total BS. Offensive.

djnemo65 11-30-2007 03:25 AM

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I'm going to write a letter to ESPN letting them now that I will not support their radio station during the time that his show is broadcast. Chip pointed out correctly that, not only is he a jerk, but his knowledge of sports is extremely superficial.

His handling of this tragedy has been despicable and I can only hope that consequences result from it.

70Chip 11-30-2007 07:08 AM

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Steinberg linked to this piece at Awful Announcing, but in cased you missed it, they echo a lot of the Warpath's sentiments:

[url=http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2007/11/colin-cowherd-sure-is-classy.html]Awful Announcing: Colin Cowherd Sure Is Classy[/url]

BleedBurgundy 11-30-2007 07:19 AM

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[QUOTE=djnemo65;386036]I'm going to write a letter to ESPN letting them now that I will not support their radio station during the time that his show is broadcast. Chip pointed out correctly that, not only is he a jerk, but his knowledge of sports is extremely superficial.

His handling of this tragedy has been despicable and I can only hope that consequences result from it.[/QUOTE]

I don't know if that would even help. If you take the time to write a letter, ESPN knows you're listening to this clown. It's one of those situations where any pub is good pub. The fact that everyone is pissed off by his insensitive and immature commentary will probably result in higher ratings. The best thing to do is just turn it off. Don't listen. No listeners = No adv. revenue and then he goes away.

Beemnseven 12-05-2007 12:26 PM

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So, did anyone else hear him admit he was wrong today? For those that didn't hear it, basically he said his job is to opine, sometimes he's aggressive and turns people off, but that's life in talk radio.

He did say that he still believes his original opinions were reasonable based on his past. But at the same time, he was wrong. It's not often he does that.

But then, he took a call from some ditz named Jennifer in California who went on to say that she didn't think Colin was wrong, that Sean Taylor DID wind up involving himself with the wrong crowd, though indirectly from his sister.

His HALF-sister you twit. And no, Taylor DID NOT "involve himself" with the wrong crowd by his HALF-sister dating someone who's brother turned out to be a thug.

Some people still can't stand the fact that this was a random act.

70Chip 12-05-2007 12:34 PM

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I guess it's good that he apologized but I will continue to oppose him in all his insidious forms. His show is the Family Guy to my Cartman:

[URL="http://southpark.comedycentral.com/video_by_episode.jhtml?episodeId=103230"]South Park TV Show Episode 1003 | Episode Cartoon Wars Part I | South Park | Comedy Central[/URL]

Paintrain 12-05-2007 12:56 PM

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;389147]So, did anyone else hear him admit he was wrong today? For those that didn't hear it, basically he said his job is to opine, sometimes he's aggressive and turns people off, but that's life in talk radio.

He did say that he still believes his original opinions were reasonable based on his past. But at the same time, he was wrong. It's not often he does that.

But then, he took a call from some ditz named Jennifer in California who went on to say that she didn't think Colin was wrong, that Sean Taylor DID wind up involving himself with the wrong crowd, though indirectly from his sister.

His HALF-sister you twit. And no, Taylor DID NOT "involve himself" with the wrong crowd by his HALF-sister dating someone who's brother turned out to be a thug.

Some people still can't stand the fact that this was a random act.[/QUOTE]
At least he was man enough to admit that he was wrong.. I still don't have any respect for him because if he was a professional to begin with he would have waited until the facts were out before spewing garbage from his trap..

MTK 12-05-2007 02:01 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven;389147]So, did anyone else hear him admit he was wrong today? For those that didn't hear it, basically he said his job is to opine, sometimes he's aggressive and turns people off, but that's life in talk radio.

He did say that he still believes his original opinions were reasonable based on his past. But at the same time, he was wrong. It's not often he does that.

But then, he took a call from some ditz named Jennifer in California who went on to say that she didn't think Colin was wrong, that Sean Taylor DID wind up involving himself with the wrong crowd, though indirectly from his sister.

His HALF-sister you twit. And no, Taylor DID NOT "involve himself" with the wrong crowd by his HALF-sister dating someone who's brother turned out to be a thug.

Some people still can't stand the fact that this was a random act.[/quote]

Yeah at least he admitted he was wrong. I really didn't think he would do that. I'm surprised.

Monkeydad 12-05-2007 02:19 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven;389147]
Some people still can't stand the fact that this was a random act.[/quote]


NO it wasn't. This was planned. Plenty of facts point to it.

SmootSmack 12-05-2007 02:25 PM

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[QUOTE=Buster;389192]NO it wasn't. This was planned. Plenty of facts point to it.[/QUOTE]

It was random in the sense that Sean Taylor's past troubles did not lead to his death.

SmootSmack 12-05-2007 02:27 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;389184]Yeah at least he admitted he was wrong. I really didn't think he would do that. I'm surprised.[/QUOTE]

Someone had a frank discussion with his producer last week about the offensive errors of Cowherd's ways. And that's all I'll say about that ;)

MTK 12-05-2007 02:30 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;389200]Someone had a frank discussion with his producer last week about the offensive errors of Cowherd's ways. And that's all I'll say about that ;)[/quote]

Very nice

SmootSmack 12-05-2007 02:33 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;389202]Very nice[/QUOTE]

Yeah, well I'm not going to presume that my convo had anything to do with that. If there's one thing I've learned from working with Cowherd it's that he'll decide what he's going to do. It's hard, very hard, to sway him. And usually the best way to do it is to make it appear as if he came up with it all on his own.

But I deal with him so little.

Slingin Sammy 33 12-05-2007 02:45 PM

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I'm by no means a Cowherd fan. But at least he stepped up and took the responsibility to apologize (Even if a "frank" discussion helped prod his apology, kudos Smoot). I must admit, my first thoughts were that it was something from Sean's past that came back to haunt him, but I certainly wouldn't have made the statements Cowherd did to millons of listeners.

Who, why, or how won't bring Sean back or any comfort to his family, but I'm glad that my initial thoughts were wrong and Sean's past had nothing to do with this tragedy.

I haven't heard anything from Wilbon in terms of an apology, or did I miss something (I was out of town and off-line for a couple of days)?

memphisskin 12-05-2007 02:55 PM

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I head the apology, and I came away unimpressed. He basically blamed Wilbon, Stephen A. Smith, Jason Whitlock and Antrel Rolle, saying that he talked to all of them before he came to his conclusion.

Kudos to you Smootsmack, although I must admit that Cowherd's admission that "no one at ESPN ever told him what topic to discuss on air" smelled rotten from the start. But at least he did react to whatever you said, and for that you get a sincere thanks from me.

SmootSmack 12-05-2007 03:24 PM

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[QUOTE=memphisskin;389210]I head the apology, and I came away unimpressed. He basically blamed Wilbon, Stephen A. Smith, Jason Whitlock and Antrel Rolle, saying that he talked to all of them before he came to his conclusion.

Kudos to you Smootsmack, although I must admit that Cowherd's admission that "no one at ESPN ever told him what topic to discuss on air" smelled rotten from the start. But at least he did react to whatever you said, and for that you get a sincere thanks from me.[/QUOTE]


I seriously doubt Cowherd reacted to whatever I said. Just a coincidence.

djnemo65 12-05-2007 08:03 PM

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I don't want to let him off the hook for apologizing though. What if he had been right? That wasn't the issue. The issue was the hurtful, arrogant, insensitive way he broached the topic, almost belligerently questioning the rationality of anyone who disagreed with him.

He was and still is a jerk.

21InOurHearts 12-05-2007 08:26 PM

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I used to listen to Cowherd because I was all about ESPN. Well one day I said this Cowherd guy gets on my nerves what else is out there. That lead me to find Shemon and Jdub on Fox Sports Radio. I think they are funny and a class act, that also led me to fin Steve Czaban who I think is awesome. Cowherd pushed his opinion on you too much, I like to sit back and laugh and get sports information.

SmootSmack 12-05-2007 09:05 PM

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Czaban makes Cowherd look like Mother Theresa. He definitely pushes his agenda/opinion on you. And you won't find a bigger a-hole. F Czaban.

I'm a Rome guy myself

GTripp0012 12-05-2007 09:40 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;389338]Czaban makes Cowherd look like Mother Theresa. He definitely pushes his agenda/opinion on you. And you won't find a bigger a-hole. F Czaban.

I'm a Rome guy myself[/quote]Rome arguments are so terrible...but I can't get enough of his delivery.

Ever since I saw Schlereth try to do Jim Rome's gig in his absence, I really have a new respect for the guy's delivery. His sports related arguments are...interesting...to say the least.

SmootSmack 12-05-2007 09:42 PM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;389351]Rome arguments are so terrible...but I can't get enough of his delivery.

Ever since I saw Schlereth try to do Jim Rome's gig in his absence, I really have a new respect for the guy's delivery. His sports related arguments are...interesting...to say the least.[/QUOTE]

The best is when Jim Gray sits in for Jim Rome. They couldn't be more different

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-05-2007 09:51 PM

Re: Colin Cowturd on Sean Taylor
 
[QUOTE=Buster;389192]NO it wasn't. This was planned. Plenty of facts point to it.[/QUOTE]

Well it's fairly random as far as crimes go. What crimes aren't random? A bank robber picks out a bank, a mugger picks out a person, a car jacker picks out a car, a rapist picks out a victim, etc. The bottom line is Sean's past lapses in judgment or run-ins with the law had nothing to do with his death.


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