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Redskin Warrior 12-17-2007 07:57 PM

Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 
Damn I hope they win next week to rest players in the Week 17. But he deserves it he does that too much.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-17-2007 08:02 PM

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He's done it so many times that I simply don't believe that he's not trying to hurt people. The man knows what that kind of tackle can easily result in, but he does it again and again. I was actually pissed when I saw him do it last night.

RMSkins 12-17-2007 08:04 PM

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It is about time the NFL does something other than just fining him.

twinskinsfan 12-17-2007 08:07 PM

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He needs to man up and hit somebody like a true safety. Oh yeah, he's a Cowboy. My bad

sandtrapjack 12-17-2007 08:10 PM

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[quote=twinskinsfan;394281]He needs to man up and hit somebody like a true safety. Oh yeah, he's a Cowboy. My bad[/quote]

Oh you mean like Ken Hamlin did on Sunday?

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7-_E5hNuz0]YouTube - Ken Hamlin blows up Matt Schobel[/url]

NicknacK89 12-17-2007 08:13 PM

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First of all that hit was illegal, second of all hamlin got as much of the shot as shobel did, cool dude

Redskin Warrior 12-17-2007 08:13 PM

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[QUOTE=twinskinsfan;394281]He needs to man up and hit somebody like a true safety. Oh yeah, he's a Cowboy. My bad[/QUOTE]

He has never been a good safety IMO. His coverage skills sucks he is out to hurt people with those tackles. I feel LL is a better safety than RW.

SC Skins Fan 12-17-2007 08:24 PM

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;394285]He has never been a good safety IMO. His coverage skills sucks he is out to hurt people with those tackles. I feel LL is a better safety than RW.[/quote]

And he still gets voted into the Pro Bowl on name recognition alone. Even most Cowboys fans know he's not very good. Every time I watch the guy play he attempts about 4 horsecollar tackles at a minimum. My only explanation is that he has done it so many times that he is unable to change his ways, it's pretty crazy.

sandtrapjack 12-17-2007 08:30 PM

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 
[quote=NicknacK89;394284]First of all that hit was illegal, second of all hamlin got as much of the shot as shobel did, cool dude[/quote]

Lets see....no flag.....no penalty.....no fine......and that hit was illegal how? Oh because Nicknack said so!

saden1 12-17-2007 08:30 PM

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Finally!!!! I am so sick and tired of seeing that mofo do it again and again and again and get away with just a fine.

tatrave 12-17-2007 08:31 PM

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That Hamlin hit warrants a fine

skinsguy 12-17-2007 08:36 PM

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Well the Hamlin hit was pretty nasty and should've warranted a penalty. Roy Williams should know not to keep doing the horse tackling considering the fact that the NFL made that tackle illegal because of him.

JWsleep 12-17-2007 08:54 PM

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Every game of the roids I've seen this year, RW has used his "patented" tackle technique. About time the league got serious.

ncskinsfanec 12-17-2007 09:00 PM

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I think Roy Williams is an even dirtier player than Rodney Harrison, and I didn't think that was possible. Hopefully the Cowboys are beginning their implosion now. I was not sorry at all to see that Romo suffered that thumb injury to his throwing hand.

Hopefully we'll get one against Minnesota next Sunday, and then beat the heck out of Dallas the final week to get into the playoffs. The team looked really good against the Giants last night, and hopefully it's just a sign of things to come! We're back baby!!

Smooter 12-17-2007 09:06 PM

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Sooners fan here and I've never liked Roy.

SBXVII 12-17-2007 09:26 PM

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Funny how after the tackle RW was SHOCKED to see he was being flagged. I guess he thought because he tapped the upper arm/shoulder first it was ok to grab the collar however no matter where you grab first on the body or jersy if you pull someone down backwards like that has proven to cause injury...thus the rule.
Looking at the Hamlin hit I would venture to say he did not get the flag because he turned and tried to hit with the shoulder first. As you listen to the announcers they spell it out for you. You can't hit a WR like that while in the air unprotected. I'm betting a fine will come of it. Why no penalty cause the Refs were to busy not trying to trip over the EAGLES Kicker on the sideline. lol.

htownskinfan 12-17-2007 09:32 PM

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I'm shocked the nfl did that,good for them

Paintrain 12-17-2007 09:58 PM

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Roy has always been a dirty player.. Back to his early years he's either been going at people's knees or horsecollaring people.. He got what he deserves..

SBXVII 12-17-2007 10:02 PM

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I only wish the league would have taken their time to really look at the film. You know and try to decide what was a good punishment. As well as fair. I don't know maybe taken atleast a week to think about it then decide that maybe one game or two would be appropriate. lol.

djnemo65 12-17-2007 10:04 PM

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It's not fair that this guy can knock someone out of the season for an illegal hit that he does again and again. The NFL needs to protect its players and if he does it again, and I'd be surprised if he didn't, I think that would warrant a severe suspension.

SmootSmack 12-17-2007 10:36 PM

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[QUOTE=Redskin Warrior;394276]Damn I hope they win next week to rest players in the Week 17. But he deserves it he does that too much.[/QUOTE]

It's possible Williams may try to appeal and push the suspension back to Week 17. But Williams is awful in pass coverage, and Cooley can totally abuse him. So I kind of hope he does play against us in week 17.

Smooter 12-17-2007 11:30 PM

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Video is on aols front page for anyone who missed it.

MTK 12-17-2007 11:32 PM

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It's a dirty tackle from a horribly overrated player.

SmootSmack 12-17-2007 11:48 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;394379]It's a dirty tackle from a horribly overrated player.[/QUOTE]

Uh oh? Are you about to start a "Roy Williams Oveerrated?" thread? :)

HOGTIMUS PRIME 12-18-2007 01:20 AM

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;394277]He's done it so many times that I simply don't believe that he's not trying to hurt people. The man knows what that kind of tackle can easily result in, but he does it again and again. I was actually pissed when I saw him do it last night.[/QUOTE]

So was I, I started yelling they should throw him out of the game for that tackle, the guy is a dirty player, he constantly goes after the receiver's head first, he gets cut a lot of slack because the NFL loves to promote him, but that type of tackle is really bad news, it's a career ending type of tackle it's not like he didn't have a choice, he could have easily went for the players legs. Good for the NFL it's the only way he will learn.

dblanch66 12-18-2007 02:01 AM

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The fact that he argued the call goes to show you he is not only dirty but stupid as well.

EternalEnigma21 12-18-2007 02:42 AM

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well, i hear they're going to repeal the rule, since williams won't be able to hurt t.o. since theyre now on the same team.

GhettoDogAllStars 12-18-2007 03:20 AM

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 
[QUOTE=djnemo65;394340]It's not fair that this guy can knock someone out of the season for an illegal hit that he does again and again. The NFL needs to protect its players and if he does it again, and I'd be surprised if he didn't, I think that would warrant a severe suspension.[/QUOTE]

Exactly what I thought. He knocks people out for much more than just one game. The punishment should fit the crime.

It's interesting that he's the only player in the league who does it consistently.

mheisig 12-18-2007 08:13 AM

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 
[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;394283]Oh you mean like Ken Hamlin did on Sunday?

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7-_E5hNuz0]YouTube - Ken Hamlin blows up Matt Schobel[/url][/QUOTE]

Yeah that's cool. Illegal helmet-to-helmet hit which is likely to break BOTH guys necks, and it looks like Hamlin was on the ground longer than Schobel.

Definitely a cool hit. :rolleyes:

sandtrapjack 12-18-2007 08:17 AM

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For the record, the suspension was warranted and Williams has nothing to complain about. He deserved that suspension 100%.

But that suspension is going to leave Dallas "thin" at the safety position for this Saturdays game at Carolina. Pat Watkins suffered a nasty sprain this week and he and Williams will be out for the Panthers game.

The irony is that the Cowboys secondary will most likely be facing off against Matt Moore, who will probably start for the Panthers. Matt Moore was signed as an undrafted rookie free agent by Dallas and then released by Dallas at training camp this year.

mheisig 12-18-2007 08:19 AM

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 
[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;394434]For the record, the suspension was warranted and Williams has nothing to complain about. He deserved that suspension 100%.

But that suspension is going to leave Dallas "thin" at the safety position for this Saturdays game at Carolina. Pat Watkins suffered a nasty sprain this week and he and Williams will be out for the Panthers game.

The irony is that the Cowboys secondary will most likely be facing off against Matt Moore, who will probably start for the Panthers. Matt Moore was signed as an undrafted rookie free agent by Dallas and then released by Dallas at training camp this year.[/QUOTE]

"Thin"?! Yeah, I'm real sorry you've lost so many important players. You wanna see thin, check out our depth chart right now.

On a slightly different note, it would be kind of nice if Roy Williams could horsecollar Tony Romo, knock Romo out for the season and then Williams would get suspended until 2008. Williams is about stupid enough that he might do it, too.

If only...

redskinsfanatic 12-18-2007 09:27 AM

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will he appeal the suspension?if he does,then he'll have to sit his cheap shooting dirty playing ass against the redskins wo'nt he????

Rajmahal33 12-18-2007 10:36 AM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;394434]For the record, the suspension was warranted and Williams has nothing to complain about. He deserved that suspension 100%.

But that suspension is going to leave Dallas "thin" at the safety position for this Saturdays game at Carolina. Pat Watkins suffered a nasty sprain this week and he and Williams will be out for the Panthers game.

The irony is that the Cowboys secondary will most likely be facing off against Matt Moore, who will probably start for the Panthers. Matt Moore was signed as an undrafted rookie free agent by Dallas and then released by Dallas at training camp this year.[/quote]


Glad to see that some cowboys fans aren't completely ignorant and biased. My officemate (a cowboys fan who grew up in Pa, can we say frontrunner?) is tryin to explain to me that horsecollaring is part of the game and they need to let the "players play". When I brought up the fact that it almost ended TO's career and as a result the rule was put into play he was at a loss for words. I just don't get what Williams was protesting. There were three flags thrown and even Aikman commented that it was a horsecollar and that it has no place in the game.

Also no offense but that Matt Moore point that you brought up, isn't ironic. It's just an irrelevant fact that you brought up which only cowboy's fans would care about. Wrong forum for that.

birdz4gibbs 12-18-2007 10:57 AM

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roy has done it since day one and continues to do it so it serves him right .
yeah TO just about had his ankle taken off because of this nonsense...
i,m suprised that it wasn,t anything more than a 1 game suspension cause it,s his style that put this in place to start with and yet he continues to horsecollar..

cowboys being the cowboys i guess.

SouperMeister 12-18-2007 11:09 AM

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Obviously, this tackling technique is in his football DNA, so he WILL do it again even after a one game suspension. That begs the question, what is the penalty next time? 3 games without pay?

Frankly, I want him to play against the Skins. Whenever we try to exploit Williams in coverage he is a huge liability. Cooley owned him in Dallas last month.

MTK 12-18-2007 11:11 AM

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I think he needs to attend some tackling clinics.

Monkeydad 12-18-2007 11:25 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;394518]I think he needs to attend some tackling clinics.[/quote]

No, he needs Bill Parcells' Backyard Drills DVD:

[url=http://backyard-drills.com/]Backyard Drills[/url]

dmek25 12-18-2007 12:26 PM

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;394283]Oh you mean like Ken Hamlin did on Sunday?

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7-_E5hNuz0"]YouTube - Ken Hamlin blows up Matt Schobel[/URL][/quote]
you guys make me laugh around here. if this hit would have been Sean Taylor or Laron Landry, it would have been the best thing since sliced bread. this was a sweet stick. but i do think it was helmet to helmet, which is illegal

mheisig 12-18-2007 12:31 PM

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 
[QUOTE=SouperMeister;394517]Obviously, this tackling technique is in his football DNA, so he WILL do it again even after a one game suspension. [B]That begs the question[/B], what is the penalty next time? 3 games without pay?

Frankly, I want him to play against the Skins. Whenever we try to exploit Williams in coverage he is a huge liability. Cooley owned him in Dallas last month.[/QUOTE]

No, it does NOT "beg the question."

[URL="http://www.redskinswarpath.com/parking-lot/17738-whats-your-pet-peeve-8.html#post392740"]What's your pet peeve? - Page 8 - Redskins Warpath[/URL]

mheisig 12-18-2007 12:33 PM

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[QUOTE=dmek25;394570]you guys make me laugh around here. if this hit would have been Sean Taylor or Laron Landry, it would have been the best thing since sliced bread. this was a sweet stick. but i do think it was helmet to helmet, which is illegal[/QUOTE]

What you're saying is that my hatred for the Cowboys has made me biased and blind to rational observations?

I guess I don't see the problem.


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