Should Gregg Williams return as defensive coordinator in '08?
 

Keeping with yesterday's theme of whether Saunders should return, (which ended up getting sidetracked into whether Williams should return), should Gregg Williams return as d-coordinator?

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im not big as Williams as a head coach, but he is more then adequate coordinator. and i love the continuity thing

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I have no problems with GW staying as D coordinator. I dont want him as head coach.

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Naturally.

Currently ranked 10th (check it out. NFC East holds down #7-10 in Defense), this defense is a shadow of last year, when it was ranked near the bottom. Plus it's being done with countless injuries. Sacks and INTs are up, and overall, the defense is playing great. It is the main reason the Skins are 7-7 right now.

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GW not only should be kept as d-coordinator, he should be the successor to Gibbs as his contract stipulates ($1 mil if he's not hired as hc).

He has paid his dues & grown as a coach in DC. The 2006 debacle changed him a lot I think, humbled him & made him better for 07.

He's a perfect replacement for Gibbs; he's already here, he's learned from a hall of famer & he's hungry to succeed as a head coach, unlike somebody like Cowher who has already won it all.

Williams will certainly alienate some players, but he won't let them get over either. He's had 4 years to learn patience & temperment under Gibbs & I think he'll be a fine head coach so long as he & the Danny's egos don't collide too much.

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No. I think Greg Blache should keep his role as defensive coordinator, and Williams stays as Associate Head Coach-Defense. :)

Seriously though, semantics aside, if Williams gets an offer to be a head coach anywhere he should be allowed to go. Otherwise, I hope he stays. I keep hearing rumors though that Blache could be up for a college coaching job. We shall see.

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[quote=SmootSmack;394968]No. I think Greg Blache should keep his role as defensive coordinator, and Williams stays as Associate Head Coach-Defense. :)

Seriously though, semantics aside, if Williams gets an offer to be a head coach anywhere he should be allowed to go. Otherwise, I hope he stays. I keep hearing rumors though that Blache could be up for a college coaching job. We shall see.[/quote]

Honestly, I think if Williams left and the rest of the staff remained would be okay.

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I can't believe this site has come to the point where this question needs to be asked.

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[quote=FRPLG;394972]I can't believe this site has come to the point where this question needs to be asked.[/quote]

You know how it goes. I just wanted to make sure that the majority has their head on straight.

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[quote=Mattyk72;394955]Keeping with yesterday's theme of whether Saunders should return, (which ended up getting sidetracked into whether Williams should return), should Gregg Williams return as d-coordinator?[/quote]
Didn't mean to hijack the Saunders thread :benched:

You know where I voted (it appears so far I'm a vast minority).

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I figured this poll would run about 90/10 in favor of GW. So far I'm not surprised.

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I'm curious about the reasoning behind the 3 people (so far) who have said "no". Are you saying you think, from GW's perspective, he should go elsewhere? Or that, from the Skins' perspective, he should not be brought back?

I thought the poll was asking the second question. If it's asking the first question, I'm not sure what my answer would be.

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I absolutely want him back next year. I also want him to remain here as the head coach when Joe steps down. I think Greg learned a lot of lessons from Buffalo, and a TON of lessons from Joe while being here. I think he will be a great coach for us. He is very motivational, and I believe he has learned that being a coach is, as he said " people business" He didn't do that in buffalo, and has changed while being here. Look at what he has done with the limited resources due to injuries. He gets guys to play hard, and never quit, which comes directly from Joe. If Greg became coach, I hope he retains Al (if Al wants to stay) to run the offense. Continuity is huge in this league and I think we have that right now even though we have struggled at times this year. I am not one that always wants coaching staff to be overhauled if we dont win. I have, and still, believe Joe should retire, but I think we have the staff in place under Joe to keep things moving in the right direction.

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I want him back. What happened this year says a lot about him. He was under the microscope after last year, and he was tagged as being too stubborn. Well, he sucked it up, showed some humility, and has put together schemes all year that maximize the talent he has on the field, as opposed to the schemes he'd prefer to implement. He'd love to blitz more than he does, but that just wasn't working last year, and to the surprise of a lot of people, he's drawn back on the blitz, even though, on the whole, his front four can't put a lot of pressure on the QBs (Andre being the major exception, of course). As someone has said, the defense is the major reason why we're still in the playoff hunt going into week 15, and it's been his coordination of it that is the reason why we're playing so well. So, we need to keep him. Let him continue to establish an identity for this team's defense.

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While I've stated my opinion of being off of the Grilliams bandwagon, I still would like for him to return rather than start all over with another D-coordinator, especially when you're looking at starting next season with at least 3 new starters (Rogers & McIntosh still rehabbing, Springs either gone or moved to FS to replace Taylor, Griffin and Washington have huge cap numbers coming up) it's going to be paramount to maintain continuity on both sides of the ball.

While some say the defense is the reason we're still in the playoff hunt, I'd also say the defense is the reason we're not already locked into a playoff spot. The offense didn't turn the ball over (GB exception) to lose us games, the defense didn't do their jobs in a lot of cases. It ties to being left on the field since the offense didn't get first downs but if 'lack of execution' is the excuse on offense rather than playcalling it needs to be the same thing on defense (which was also ultra conservative in many second halves).

I am not however endorsing him as the next HC.. He burns his players out with his intensity and style and I don't think going from Grandpa Joe to crazy Uncle Gregg (second G is for Genius) would work for this team..

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I would not be surprised in one bit if we lost Al, Greg, or Saunders to other teams the offseason. Could be one, could be all, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see our coaches poached.

The longer Gibbs sticks around, the less of a chance GWill becomes our next HC.

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Not only should Williams be retained, he should be the front runner for head coach whenever Gibbs steps down. I love the fact that he moved Landry to Free Safety to leverage his athleticism. The hit on Burress and the near interception later were great examples of Landry's range. I don't think that he'll ever quite be what Taylor would have been (a potential all-time great), but I'd be surprised if Landry isn't a Pro Bowler by year 3 in Williams' defensive scheme.

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[quote=onlydarksets;394997]I'm curious about the reasoning behind the 3 people (so far) who have said "no". Are you saying you think, from GW's perspective, he should go elsewhere? Or that, from the Skins' perspective, he should not be brought back?[/quote]
I said "no", I don't think he should be brought back. Here's why; GWs defense has done fairly well statistically, but the second half breakdowns game after game are a major concern. A stat that was shown in the game Sunday night was that Gibbs 1.0 was 2nd best in the NFL in protecting 2nd half leads from 1982-92 (Richie Petitbone). Gibbs 2.0 was either the worst or 2nd worst in the same stat since 2004 (GW). Gibbs' offensive philosopy hasn't changed dramatically, Gibbs 1.0 was constantly criticized for being "too conservative" also. So IMO this is primarily a D-Coordinator issue. What this indicates is good preparation going into the game but the ability to "think on your feet" and make in-game adjustments is poor.

2004 was amazing defensively
2005 was in the top 1/3, but didn't create many turnovers, overall good
2006 poor, set NFL record low for turnovers created
2007 average at best. 2nd half of games have been poor defensively. 26th in generating turnovers.

The trend is going down, not up. Obviously after last year there was no where to go but up. We should be seeing consistent improvement or at least a steady level of defensive play in the top 1/3 of the NFL for a guy that is one of the highest paid coordinators. Gibbs has given him whatever he has asked for (Taylor, Rogers, McIntosh, Landry, Archuletta, Fletcher, Carter). Even with injuries and Sean's death, we have at least average talent on the defensive side of the ball.

These are the 2nd half breakdowns this year.

Giants: 17-3 Skins at Half / 21-0 NYG in 2nd L
Packers: 14-7 Skins at Half / 10-0 GB in 2nd L
Cards: 14-6 Skins at Half / 13-7 Cards in 2nd W
Eagles: 12-7 Skins at Half / 26-13 Eagles in 2nd L
Dallas: 10-7 Skins at Half / 21-13 Dallas in 2nd L
Bills: 9-2 Skins at Half / 15-7 Bills in 2nd L
Bears: 7-0 Skins at Half / 17-16 Skins in 2nd W

Granted the offense hasn't performed well in the second half of some of these games, but if the D could stay even in the 2nd half of two of these games we are 9-5. Sitting back watching that Cover-2 get picked apart in the 2nd half with almost no defensive shifts or blitzing is sickening. In each of these games it appears the opponent's offense adjusts to our gameplan at halftime and GW isn't prepared.

Obviously not a popular opinion, but I stand by it and honestly hope in the long run I am proven wrong. Bottom line is we all want the same thing; for the Skins to be successful and win Superbowls again. We just don't all agree on how to get there, not that our opinions can do anything to help or hurt the franchise.

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I'm more inclined to call 2004 an aberration and ascribe 2006 to GW not having a field general out there. With Pierce gone, we had Washington leading the charge. I love the way Marcus plays out there, but the consensus is that he is not much of a student of the defensive game. With Fletcher, we're seeing a lot more cohesion out there.

Now, you can say that's the players, not the coach, but I think GW's system is back on track with the right core nucleus of players (intelligent MLB, FS with huge range, quick DE).

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;395065]I said "no", I don't think he should be brought back. Here's why; GWs defense has done fairly well statistically, but the second half breakdowns game after game are a major concern. A stat that was shown in the game Sunday night was that Gibbs 1.0 was 2nd best in the NFL in protecting 2nd half leads from 1982-92 (Richie Petitbone). Gibbs 2.0 was either the worst or 2nd worst in the same stat since 2004 (GW). Gibbs' offensive philosopy hasn't changed dramatically, Gibbs 1.0 was constantly criticized for being "too conservative" also. So IMO this is primarily a D-Coordinator issue. What this indicates is good preparation going into the game but the ability to "think on your feet" and make in-game adjustments is poor.

2004 was amazing defensively
2005 was in the top 1/3, but didn't create many turnovers, overall good
2006 poor, set NFL record low for turnovers created
2007 average at best. 2nd half of games have been poor defensively. 26th in generating turnovers.

The trend is going down, not up. Obviously after last year there was no where to go but up. We should be seeing consistent improvement or at least a steady level of defensive play in the top 1/3 of the NFL for a guy that is one of the highest paid coordinators. Gibbs has given him whatever he has asked for (Taylor, Rogers, McIntosh, Landry, Archuletta, Fletcher, Carter). Even with injuries and Sean's death, we have at least average talent on the defensive side of the ball.

These are the 2nd half breakdowns this year.

Giants: 17-3 Skins at Half / 21-0 NYG in 2nd L
Packers: 14-7 Skins at Half / 10-0 GB in 2nd L
Cards: 14-6 Skins at Half / 13-7 Cards in 2nd W
Eagles: 12-7 Skins at Half / 26-13 Eagles in 2nd L
Dallas: 10-7 Skins at Half / 21-13 Dallas in 2nd L
Bills: 9-2 Skins at Half / 15-7 Bills in 2nd L
Bears: 7-0 Skins at Half / 17-16 Skins in 2nd W

Granted the offense hasn't performed well in the second half of some of these games, but if the D could stay even in the 2nd half of two of these games we are 9-5. Sitting back watching that Cover-2 get picked apart in the 2nd half with almost no defensive shifts or blitzing is sickening. In each of these games it appears the opponent's offense adjusts to our gameplan at halftime and GW isn't prepared.

Obviously not a popular opinion, but I stand by it and honestly hope in the long run I am proven wrong. Bottom line is we all want the same thing; for the Skins to be successful and win Superbowls again. We just don't all agree on how to get there, not that our opinions can do anything to help or hurt the franchise.[/quote]
We would also be 9 and 5 if the O could have scored 20 points in 9 games. So it goes both ways. The O has only scored 30 or more points one time.

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[quote=onlydarksets;395069]I'm more inclined to call 2004 an aberration and ascribe 2006 to GW not having a field general out there. With Pierce gone, we had Washington leading the charge. I love the way Marcus plays out there, but the consensus is that he is not much of a student of the defensive game. With Fletcher, we're seeing a lot more cohesion out there.

Now, you can say that's the players, not the coach, but I think GW's system is back on track with the right core nucleus of players (intelligent MLB, FS with huge range, quick DE).[/quote]
I understand what you're saying, but how do you account for us doing well in the first half of games and then having major let-downs in the second half. Based on the poll results I guess everyone blames the offense or it doesn't concern anyone but me? I know the offense hasn't done a great job this season, but the offense hasn't given up points or had critical turnovers in our own territory to cost us games. It isn't a player issue or we'd be getting beat from start to finish.

GW is one of, if not the highest paid assistant coach in the NFL. He has complete control of the defense and has had a major say in the personnel brought in to run it. To be responsible for losing the most or second most 1st half leads in the NFL in the last four years is not acceptable. Again, if we were getting beat from start to finish, fine, maybe it is a player issue, injury issue, or the offense just stinks, but we are getting the lead at half and then losing.

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[quote=firstdown;395078]We would also be 9 and 5 if the O could have scored 20 points in 9 games. So it goes both ways. The O has only scored 30 or more points one time.[/quote]
The offense has been consistent outside of the Eagles & Packers game. Consistently not very good, but still consistent. I guess to me the main thing that points to a big coaching problem is the defense isn't consistent and breaks down after halftime.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;395086]The offense has been consistent outside of the Eagles & Packers game. Consistently not very good, but still consistent. I guess to me the main thing that points to a big coaching problem is the defense isn't consistent and breaks down after halftime.[/quote]
Maybe because they spend the whole first half picking up the slack for the O and by the 2nd half are tired of running on and off the field.

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I am for GW staying. I think sometimes he outthinks himself but when he doesn't trust the guys he goes vanilla (much like Saunders). I like that we don't give up big plays and that we force an offense to play a perfect game to win (like the Patriots).
How can GW be the heir apparent to Coach Joe? Don't the Skins have to interview a black coach should any position open? Would Blache be given a token interview like Green was given last time?

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A big yes. Greg Williams has done an outstanding job. He should be the next in line if Gibbs decides to retire. The second half breakdowns are because of conservative and predictable offensive play calling that has left the defense on the field too long.

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You really have to take it on a game by game basis. The Packers loss was entirely on the offense (namely Moss' fumble), the Giants loss was probably a joint effort, the Eagles loss was on the defense (letting Westbrook run through them for a 50+ yard TD). The Tampa loss is on the offense turning the ball over 6 times. Some say the Bills' loss is entirely on Gibbs. I say why did the D give up such a huge pass down the middle to set up the final field goal.

And arguments can be made in almost all the above cases for the other side costing us the game.

Plus, let's not act like we had huge leads at the half. In most cases it was a TD or less.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;395095]You really have to take it on a game by game basis. The Packers loss was entirely on the offense (namely Moss' fumble), the Giants loss was probably a joint effort, the Eagles loss was on the defense (letting Westbrook run through them for a 50+ yard TD). The Tampa loss is on the offense turning the ball over 6 times. Some say the Bills' loss is entirely on Gibbs. I say why did the D give up such a huge pass down the middle to set up the final field goal.

And arguments can be made in almost all the above cases for the other side costing us the game.

Plus, let's not act like we had huge leads at the half. In most cases it was a TD or less.[/QUOTE]

SS, in every game lost, with the exception of possibly GB, we've had no less than a 10 point lead in every 2nd half.

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[quote=firstdown;395091]Maybe because they spend the whole first half picking up the slack for the O and by the 2nd half are tired of running on and off the field.[/quote]
If we were up 3-0 in these games then maybe yes. But the offense is putting up decent numbers in the first half of these games. Also in the first half of these games the defense has played well and shut the opponent down. Then at halftime everything goes south and the opponent marches up and down the field on us, picking apart our basic Cover-2.

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[QUOTE=Paintrain;395100]SS, in every game lost, with the exception of possibly GB, we've had no less than a 10 point lead in every 2nd half.[/QUOTE]

I see what you're saying. I'm talking about the halftime lead specifically. Either way, I think it's way too simplistic to place the blame entirely on one side

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[quote=SmootSmack;395095]You really have to take it on a game by game basis. The Packers loss was entirely on the offense (namely Moss' fumble), the Giants loss was probably a joint effort, the Eagles loss was on the defense (letting Westbrook run through them for a 50+ yard TD). The Tampa loss is on the offense turning the ball over 6 times. Some say the Bills' loss is entirely on Gibbs. I say why did the D give up such a huge pass down the middle to set up the final field goal.

And arguments can be made in almost all the above cases for the other side costing us the game.

Plus, let's not act like we had huge leads at the half. In most cases it was a TD or less.[/quote]

Giants: 17-[B]3[/B] Skins at Half / [B]21[/B]-0 NYG in 2nd L
Packers: 14-[B]7[/B] Skins at Half / [B]10[/B]-0 GB in 2nd L
Cards: 14-[B]6[/B] Skins at Half / [B]13[/B]-7 Cards in 2nd W
Eagles: 12-[B]7 [/B]Skins at Half / [B]26[/B]-13 Eagles in 2nd L
Dallas: 10-[B]7[/B] Skins at Half / [B]21[/B]-13 Dallas in 2nd L
Bills: 9-[B]2 [/B]Skins at Half / [B]15[/B]-7 Bills in 2nd L
Bears: 7-[B]0[/B] Skins at Half / 17-[B]16[/B] Skins in 2nd W

My problem is; how do you explain the defense going from good 1st half to bad 2nd half on a consistent basis other than the guy calling the defense not making good halftime adjustments or making bad defensive calls in the 2nd half. If there's another valid explanation I would love to hear it because I can't figure it out.

I don't think offensively Gibbs has changed very much, but I guess I was spoiled by watching Richie Pettibone's defense consistently hold small leads for Gibbs.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;395108]Giants: 17-[B]3[/B] Skins at Half / [B]21[/B]-0 NYG in 2nd L
Packers: 14-[B]7[/B] Skins at Half / [B]10[/B]-0 GB in 2nd L
Cards: 14-[B]6[/B] Skins at Half / [B]13[/B]-7 Cards in 2nd W
Eagles: 12-[B]7 [/B]Skins at Half / [B]26[/B]-13 Eagles in 2nd L
Dallas: 10-[B]7[/B] Skins at Half / [B]21[/B]-13 Dallas in 2nd L
Bills: 9-[B]2 [/B]Skins at Half / [B]15[/B]-7 Bills in 2nd L
Bears: 7-[B]0[/B] Skins at Half / 17-[B]16[/B] Skins in 2nd W

My problem is; how do you explain the defense going from good 1st half to bad 2nd half on a consistent basis other than the guy calling the defense not making good halftime adjustments or making bad defensive calls in the 2nd half. If there's another valid explanation I would love to hear it because I can't figure it out.

I don't think offensively Gibbs has changed very much, but I guess I was spoiled by watching Richie Pettibone's defense consistently hold small leads for Gibbs.[/quote]
First off you have only posted 7 games and we have played 14. Did those other 7 game numbers not back up your argument?

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It's funny that when it comes to the ultimate [U]team[/U] game, people always want to choose a side to assign all the blame to, or certain plays or individuals. Simply said, it's not always that simple.

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[quote=Mattyk72;395112]It's funny that when it comes to the ultimate [U]team[/U] game, people always want to choose a side to assign all the blame to, or certain plays or individuals. Simply said, it's not always that simple.[/quote]
I'd say it was a group effort on all of our losses and our best group effort to loose was the Pats.

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A point that has been overlooked is that GW and the defense, which have overachieved this year, have played great w/ little help from the offense throughout much of the season. I don't know if there are stat's to support it, but our offense is average/slightly below average at best and puts our D in bad situations often.

As far as i'm concerned I hope GW is back and eventually takes over as coach once JG leaves.

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[quote=firstdown;395110]First off you have only posted 7 games and we have played 14. Did those other 7 game numbers not back up your argument?[/quote]
In the other 7 games Miami, Eagles, Lions, Pats, Jets, TB and Giants the defense stayed consistent in 1st half vs. 2nd half points allowed, except for the Jets and TB where the defense improved in the second half. My argument is that in 7 out of 14 games we have had serious 2nd half letdowns, to me that indicates a not-so-good trend.

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[QUOTE=Slingin Sammy 33;395108]Giants: 17-[B]3[/B] Skins at Half / [B]21[/B]-0 NYG in 2nd L
Packers: 14-[B]7[/B] Skins at Half / [B]10[/B]-0 GB in 2nd L
Cards: 14-[B]6[/B] Skins at Half / [B]13[/B]-7 Cards in 2nd W
Eagles: 12-[B]7 [/B]Skins at Half / [B]26[/B]-13 Eagles in 2nd L
Dallas: 10-[B]7[/B] Skins at Half / [B]21[/B]-13 Dallas in 2nd L
Bills: 9-[B]2 [/B]Skins at Half / [B]15[/B]-7 Bills in 2nd L
Bears: 7-[B]0[/B] Skins at Half / 17-[B]16[/B] Skins in 2nd W

My problem is; how do you explain the defense going from good 1st half to bad 2nd half on a consistent basis other than the guy calling the defense not making good halftime adjustments or making bad defensive calls in the 2nd half. If there's another valid explanation I would love to hear it because I can't figure it out.[/QUOTE]
Here's something to consider...Time of Possession. If a defense is on the field long frequent periods of time, they are bound to get tired and run down.

If you look at the Drive Logs found on Yahoo!, you'll notice a trend of the 2 minute or less drives in the 2nd half of most of the games above. If the defense does not get time to rest, they are going to play tired. There is no way to combat that, expect for the offense to hold onto the ball. Part of the problem has been the offense's 2nd half conservation and failing to execute. Most of the games you mentioned, there are many 2nd half 3 and outs, as well as late game turnovers, which can burst any sort of momentum.

Now, don't get me wrong. The defense has had its fair share of problems, but to put it square on Gregg Williams and "bad adjustments" and "bad calls" is not looking at the full picture.

By your reasoning, Al Saunders and Joe Gibbs should both be out as well, since they are failing to make proper adjustments and have made bad calls down the stretch...

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[quote=BDBohnzie;395125]Here's something to consider...Time of Possession. If a defense is on the field long frequent periods of time, they are bound to get tired and run down.

If you look at the Drive Logs found on Yahoo!, you'll notice a trend of the 2 minute or less drives in the 2nd half of most of the games above. If the defense does not get time to rest, they are going to play tired. There is no way to combat that, expect for the offense to hold onto the ball. Part of the problem has been the offense's 2nd half conservation and failing to execute. Most of the games you mentioned, there are many 2nd half 3 and outs, as well as late game turnovers, which can burst any sort of momentum.

Now, don't get me wrong. The defense has had its fair share of problems, but to put it square on Gregg Williams and "bad adjustments" and "bad calls" is not looking at the full picture.

By your reasoning, Al Saunders and Joe Gibbs should both be out as well, since they are failing to make proper adjustments and have made bad calls down the stretch...[/quote]
You make good points, but I'm not sold though.

For the record, I hope the D plays lights out for the next month and a half and we shock the NFL. I'll then happily stand up and take my :spank:

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;395138]You make good points, but I'm not sold though.

For the record, I hope the D plays lights out for the next month and a half and we shock the NFL. I'll then happily stand up and take my :spank:[/quote]

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[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;395125]Here's something to consider...Time of Possession. If a defense is on the field long frequent periods of time, they are bound to get tired and run down.

If you look at the Drive Logs found on Yahoo!, you'll notice a trend of the 2 minute or less drives in the 2nd half of most of the games above. If the defense does not get time to rest, they are going to play tired. There is no way to combat that, expect for the offense to hold onto the ball. Part of the problem has been the offense's 2nd half conservation and failing to execute. Most of the games you mentioned, there are many 2nd half 3 and outs, as well as late game turnovers, which can burst any sort of momentum.

Now, don't get me wrong. The defense has had its fair share of problems, but to put it square on Gregg Williams and "bad adjustments" and "bad calls" is not looking at the full picture.

By your reasoning, Al Saunders and Joe Gibbs should both be out as well, since they are failing to make proper adjustments and have made bad calls down the stretch...[/QUOTE]

We should consider field position as well.

Next poll question: Should Danny Smith Return?

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This poll reminds me of this [IMG]http://www.rrracfl.org/images/ourhero_1984election.jpg[/IMG]