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Gibbsmeatitle#1 12-20-2007 03:43 PM

NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
Just finished listening to Adam Schefter on NFLN. He stated his belief that all the teams that passed on Adrian Peterson in the 07 draft are rueing the day, including the Washington Redskins. Not to say that Peterson isn't the real deal, but come on...Thoughts?

TheMalcolmConnection 12-20-2007 03:47 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
His line is helping him GREATLY. He has great talent and needs a dominant line to show that off. In Green Bay or Dallas he would have rushed for 2000 yards by now.

saden1 12-20-2007 03:54 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
We have CP and he's no chump. I am very satisfied with the Landry pick...the Vikings can have Peterson.

SC Skins Fan 12-20-2007 03:59 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
I saw that too and it was a stupid comment. They said that the only team that wouldn't regret taking Peterson was the Cleveland Browns. In actuality the Browns were one of the only teams that might have taken him. I guess you could say that the Raiders should have taken him, but they NEEDED a QB in a bad way, I guess the Lions could have taken him but Martz didn't even run when he had Marshall Faulk, the Bucs already took Cadillac in 2005, the Cardinals paid Edge big money in 2006, and the Skins had Portis and Betts coming off an 1,154 yard season. Imagine the uproarious laughter if the Skins had taken Peterson to add to Portis and Betts. How ridiculous. It was a worthless commentary that meant absolutely nothing. Once Cleveland passed on Peterson at #3 you figured he would fall to at least #7 unless someone like Buffalo moved up to get him.

Peterson still might end up with a career that looks more like Hershel Walker (another physical marvel who struggled with injuries) rather than Walter Payton.

MTK 12-20-2007 04:02 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
Sure, it's easy to say now.

Where was Schefter on draft day with this take? That I would have been impressed with.

Hey... check out my Schefter brilliance. How did anyone pass on Dan Marino??

70Chip 12-20-2007 04:05 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
I saw that bit. Given what happened to the Skins this year, I'd take Landry over Petersen.

tatrave 12-20-2007 04:16 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
How could anyone passup Tom Brady?

T.O.Killa 12-20-2007 04:18 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
[quote=Gibbsmeatitle#1;395417]Just finished listening to Adam Scheffler on NFLN. He stated his belief that all the teams that passed on Adrian Peterson in the 07 draft are rueing the day, including the Washington Redskins. Not to say that Peterson isn't the real deal, but come on...Thoughts?[/quote]
Well, I think that one team that still would have taken there original pick would be the Redskins. In light of Taylor's death, it was the best choice.
Hind sight is 20/20. I thought Casserly was the biggest idiot for not taking Bush. Although, he resigned, I think he was forced out for that decision. Now look at that draft, he not only picked the best player in the draft, in Mario Williams, but he also stole Demico Ryans in the second round. Now he looks like a genious. In fact, I wish the Redskins would give him a job in some capacity.

SmootSmack 12-20-2007 04:20 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
[QUOTE=saden1;395423]We have CP and he's no chump. I am very satisfied with the Landry pick...the Vikings can have Peterson.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention our backup last season had 1,000+ yards rushing in half a season. So yeah, I don't regret not taking All Day any day.

ArtMonkDrillz 12-20-2007 04:26 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;395434]Not to mention our backup last season had 1,000+ yards rushing in half a season. So yeah, I don't regret not taking All Day any day.[/QUOTE]
But I guess the thought would be that we would have drafted Peterson and then tried to trade Betts (who's value was at a peak around draft time) or CP for either more picks or the DB we absolutely needed.

(For the record, I'm happy with Landry and I'd still like to see how Peterson's body holds up over the course of a few years before I [I]crown'im[/I])

SmootSmack 12-20-2007 04:32 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
Well yeah, drafting AP and trading him or Betts for additional picks would have been fine. But I don't think Schefter is factoring a trade. He's just saying he thinks we wish Peterson was on our roster (over Landry I suppose) and I just don't see that.

70Chip 12-20-2007 04:32 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
Also, the career longevity expectancy for a RB in the NFL is about 5 minutes. He could blow up his knee at any moment and never recover. I've come around to the view that you want a solid RB, but it's not as though any one guy will suddenly give you a ground game. If Petersen were running behind a shitty O-Line, then no one would be talking about him. Very few backs fail behind that sort of blocking.

You know a running back that goes against this grain? Westbrook from Philly. There's a guy that gains yards on his own. If he were running behind Minnesota's line, I'd bet he'd already have 2000 yards.

skinsfan_nn 12-20-2007 04:41 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
Pretty easy for ANYONE to Monday morning or Thursday evening QB at this point....come on.

I think we did much better than OK with LL.

Bill B 12-20-2007 04:43 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
I think the SKins took the right player in Landry even if Sean taylor were alive today. Those two were forming an elite dou that made receivers fear going over the middle.

As far as running backs go - I am more on the side of building a great line first and most running backs can be found in later rounds - I think the Broncos showed this for years. Plus if you focus on building a strong line you can help your qb as well.

Look at James since he joined the Cardinals - he has not averaged over 4 yards a carry since joining the Cardinals and has 6 tds in 06 and 6 in 07 - far lower than when he was with the Colts.

Running backs have a shorter life span than most other positions in the NFL because of all the wear and tear they take on a weekly basis. Is this something as a GM you would want to throw a massive signing bonus on which a high round pick requires - I think not. Most scouts would take an elite corner, LT of DE over a running back any day because these positions are hard to find great players.

Riggo44 12-20-2007 06:34 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
[QUOTE=tatrave;395431]How could anyone passup Tom Brady?[/QUOTE]

Or Joe Montana??

jsarno 12-20-2007 06:43 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
The Redskins should not at all rue the day. We made the right choice. If we took Peterson, there would be an issue of PT between him and Betts, and after the loss of Taylor, we'd have no safety help at all. We are one of the few teams that were 100% right in passing on Peterson.

SC Skins Fan 12-20-2007 07:25 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
In all honesty, as someone who was watching NFLN at the time, it was pretty much a throw away comment. Probably not worth a whole thread or getting too bent out of shape about.

FRPLG 12-21-2007 12:08 AM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
RBs are a dime a dozen in all reality. AP might be very good or even great but in the end how much value does he bring over say...Chester Taylor? Not much really.

hooskins 12-21-2007 02:00 AM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;395426]Sure, it's easy to say now.

Where was Schefter on draft day with this take? That I would have been impressed with.

[B] Hey... check out my Schefter brilliance. How did anyone pass on Dan Marino??[/B][/quote]

LOL exactly what I was thinking. I mean wtf were people thinking when passed Brady. Damn I could be an NFL analyst.

freddyg12 12-21-2007 08:16 AM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
To quote the big tuna "it's a disposable position" and the "true test of a running back is durability."

People criticized parcells a few years back for not taking Stephen Jackson, trading back & getting J. Jones in the 2nd. I think they got barber the next year. Parcells knew that he could fill the position well without using his 1st round pick.

SouperMeister 12-21-2007 08:49 AM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;395419]His line is helping him GREATLY. He has great talent and needs a dominant line to show that off. In Green Bay or Dallas he would have rushed for 2000 yards by now.[/quote]I disagree that Peterson would have had any more yards in Dallas or GB. Minnesota is more committed to running the ball than any team in the league, and they may have the best run blocking line, especially with Hutchinson and McKinney - those guys are absolute beasts.

MTK 12-21-2007 09:56 AM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
[quote=SC Skins Fan;395500]In all honesty, as someone who was watching NFLN at the time, it was pretty much a throw away comment. Probably not worth a whole thread or getting too bent out of shape about.[/quote]

That makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up.

mheisig 12-21-2007 11:03 AM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
That's really insightful, "hindsight's 20/20" commentary. Very useful too. Why don't we go back and find every NFL player who ever produced more than expected and then talk about the teams that regret passing on him - that'll be productive too.

flashalexb 12-21-2007 11:03 AM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
Or WR Marcus Colston. He was the 3rd to last pick in the draft 2 years ago.

Master4Caster 12-21-2007 01:24 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
I didn't look it up, but I bet Schefter was one of those talking heads who were saying on draft day that Peterson was too fragile to play at the NFL level. There was LOTS of concern about his many injuries.

A lot of teams, including Washington, would be glad to have Peterson, but at the time, we had a plan for the defense and it involved LaRon Landry. The way things turned out, we need Landry a lot more than we need Peterson right now.

I'll go on record, though, and say Peterson should be the first player you take in next season's fantasy draft. If Schefter said that, it would have been an intelligent thing to say.

jgalecpa 12-21-2007 01:29 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
After we won the '83 super bowl, Dan Marino was passed on by 28 teams, I beleive, before the Dolphins picked him.

A number of people still rue the day we missed him by one pick, since we picked 30th.

We got a young kid named Darryl Green.

I don't regret the dependable Hall of Famer defenseman over the flashy Offensive player one bit.

IMHO

J-Dawg

ArtMonkDrillz 12-21-2007 02:32 PM

Re: NFL Network - How Could Any Team Have Passed on Peterson in the 07 Draft?
 
[QUOTE=jgalecpa;395721]After we won the '83 super bowl, Dan Marino was passed on by 28 teams, I beleive, before the Dolphins picked him.

A number of people still rue the day we missed him by one pick, since we picked 30th.

We got a young kid named Darryl Green.

I don't regret the dependable Hall of Famer defenseman over the flashy Offensive player one bit.

IMHO

J-Dawg[/QUOTE]Thats a great example of why playing the "what if" game with something like the draft is so stupid. You never know what would have happened if things had worked out differently. It's a pointless arguement.
Hell, [B][I]IF[/I][/B] he had drafted Peterson he [B][I]could[/I][/B] have tore his knee to pieces on the first day of training camp and then where would we be.


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