Risk or Reward Albert Haynesworth???
 

There are talks about Albert Haynesworth test the FA market this off season he has had on-field & off-field the problem but he is a pro bowl Defensive lineman & makes a difference when he not in the lineup. Risk or Reward? If he does test the market would you pick him as a GM share your thoughts?

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[QUOTE=Redskin Warrior;395448]There are talks about Albert Haynesworth test the FA market this off season he has had on-field & off-field the problem but he is a pro bowl Defensive lineman & makes a difference when he not in the lineup. Risk or Reward? If he does test the market would you pick him as a GM share your thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I know of the on-field problem that got him suspended, as for off-field incidents I thought he was a straight up kind of person.

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I've wondered this myself. And I think I lean toward no. This isn't some rookie making mistakes here. He's been in the league several years now and has a history of 'issues' I'd rather focusing on developing Golston and Montgomery and if we're going to go after a DT, let's go after someone like Tommie Harris (if available)

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;395459]I know of the on-field problem that got him suspended, as for off-field incidents I thought he was a straight up kind of person.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry the assault charges where dropped.

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I would leave it up to Gibbs. If he interviewed Haynesworth and thought he had enough good character enough heart and was confident that he wouldn’t quit on us and keep fighting his guts out then why not take a chance.

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Also if we could sign him for the Vet minimum I would take the chance.;)

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I'd say yes, because if you don't take a chance on someone with some issues, you don't find amazing talent. If you never take a chance, you don't find great players Sean Taylor. Someone like Pacman needs never be touched, but I don't think Haynesworth is someone to be untouchable due to off the field issues.

It doesn't matter anyway, we won't have a whole lot of room to sign someone of his caliber.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;395478] but I don't think Haynesworth is someone to be untouchable due to off the field issues.

It doesn't matter anyway, we won't have a whole lot of room to sign someone of his caliber.[/QUOTE]

I thought his issue was on-field (ripping Andre Gurode's helmet and stomping on his face) I don't recall any off-filed issues. Before the assault on Gurode I thought he had a good reputation.

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You've always got to be wary of the player who underperforms for the bulk of his career and then becomes a dominant force in his walk year.

Even without that, Haynesworth will command way too much money and I don't see him getting out of Tennessee, even if that means a franchise tag, followed by acrimony, but eventually a deal getting done. Plus the Skins have too many other needs to throw that many dollars at a position where they do not have a glaring need. If you want to throw a ton of money at a guy then go throw dollars at Jared Allen (another guy who won't end up leaving his current team).

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;395483]I thought his issue was on-field (ripping Andre Gurode's helmet and stomping on his face) I don't recall any off-filed issues. Before the assault on Gurode I thought he had a good reputation.[/QUOTE]

I was just assuming because of the other comments...I only actually know of 1 issue and that was stepping on a cowboys head. (not sure there is anything wrong with that!) :D
I try not to follow people's lives outside of football, cause quite frankly, I don't care. There is nothing I can do about it but get annoyed, so I only watch them on the field. With the expection of BIG issues like Vick and Pacman, I stay away from off the field issues.

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I say go for it if Tommy Harris is unavailable.

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i don't think he'll be a great value (he might get inflated like dockery on a new deal), but he's been a dominant player this year, and the titan's D sucks without him.

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I think his performance this year has proved his value as a player and he will help whichever team he ends up with. But he is probably going to command something in the Dwight Freeney range and we can't and shouldn't try to afford that. Going into the second year of the new agreement I think the contracts should be ridiculous this year as well.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;395493][B]You've always got to be wary of the player who underperforms for the bulk of his career and then becomes a dominant force in his walk year.[/B]

Even without that, Haynesworth will command way too much money and I don't see him getting out of Tennessee, even if that means a franchise tag, followed by acrimony, but eventually a deal getting done. Plus the Skins have too many other needs to throw that many dollars at a position where they do not have a glaring need. If you want to throw a ton of money at a guy then go throw dollars at Jared Allen (another guy who won't end up leaving his current team).[/quote]Great observation. We signed Dana Stubblefield 10 years back after he was the NFL Defensive MVP with 15 sacks as a DT. He did squadoosh as a Redskin.

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Haynesworth is very tempting, but I think it would be best to continue to develop Montgomery, Golston, and not to forget we still have Griffin who I think can still be effective for a couple more seasons.

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I dont like him. too many issues. Im gonna hold out hope that we trade up to take laron's teammate and draft dorsey

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Rumor is he'll get tagged.

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[QUOTE=canthetuna;395548]I dont like him. too many issues. Im gonna hold out hope that we trade up to take laron's teammate and draft dorsey[/QUOTE]

dorsey's going to go too high for our pick. hopefully, we can grab a guy just as good at our pick... that's right- sedrick ellis! nah, he'll be gone top 10 too.

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[quote=canthetuna;395548]I dont like him. too many issues. Im gonna hold out hope that we trade up to take laron's teammate and draft dorsey[/quote]

canthetuna, that's funny considering your name; you want to make a deal w/the tuna for the #1 pick is essentially what you're saying. As it stands now, Dorsey looks like the #1 pick in the draft.

Tuna would love to trade down, problem is he'll want a few picks in return.

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[QUOTE=SouperMeister;395513]Great observation. We signed Dana Stubblefield 10 years back after he was the NFL Defensive MVP with 15 sacks as a DT. He did squadoosh as a Redskin.[/QUOTE]

Bonus points for "squadoosh".

Haynesworth has played very well throughout his career. The spike in his numbers we're seeing have a lot to do with the fact that he was (rightly) suspended for so much of last year.

As for his character, I'd say he showed a great deal of contrition for his actions last year, and has behaved since. I doubt he'll make it to the market, and I doubt we'd be able to afford his asking price if he did.

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[quote=Riggo44;395474]Also if we could sign him for the Vet minimum I would take the chance.;)[/quote]


no way that would happen. Too good of a player, with minimal issues. he will get a nice contract.

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Haynesworth is a hell of a DT. He's worth the gamble. I'm not saying the Skins should go after him, I'm just saying he's worth the gamble for someone.

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The Titan's record while he was out this year says volumes about his importance to that team. If they let him hit the market, they're insane. That said, no way we sign him.

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I'd leave this one up to JG's but he's been really good for 2 years now right? I would have to guess w/ AM & KG we might be set at the d tackle position. I'd still rather spend $ in another area.

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I don't think there's much of a chance of him hitting the open market. But just to daydream for a moment... having a terror at DT like Haynesworth would really great.

There's just not many DT's in the game today that can dominant the line of scrimmage like he does.

I think he would be a great pickup, but again I don't see him hitting the open market. If for some insane reason he does though, the Skins would be crazy to not consider him.

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id like the skins to find their own version of haynesworth be it thru the draft or elsewhere . ..

go skins!

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[QUOTE=redsk1;395641]I'd leave this one up to JG's but he's been really good for 2 years now right? I would have to guess w/ AM & KG we might be set at the d tackle position. I'd still rather spend $ in another area.[/QUOTE]

There's a pretty good article in today's Washington Post about Montgomery and Golston (too lazy to link)

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[quote=SmootSmack;395652]There's a pretty good article in today's Washington Post about Montgomery and Golston (too lazy to link)[/quote]

A big difference from last year when both were forced to start against Tennessee and were both consistently pushed 5-10 yards off the LOS. That was one of the worst performances I've ever seen, they've come a long way.

Next year is also the first time when the Skins can save money by releasing Griffin (1.65M - more, I assume, if they do so after June 1). I'd hate to see him go, but we'll see.

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I think Griff will be back at a lower figure.

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Here are team needs the way I see it:[LIST=1][*]Defensive line[*]Wide receiver/s[*]Offensive line[*]Defensive backs[*]Running back[/LIST]The Redskins need to pay draft attention to the lines [O and D]. We've been working on the cheap with finds like Stephon Heyer and Anthony Montgomery. We can put off selecting an O-lineman for another year with Pete Kendall in the roster, but we need a pass rush from a down lineman even with improved coverage by the secondary.

So, yes, if a talent like Albert Haynesworh is available, we should take a look.

Cap room is a factor and the Redskins may be in even worse shape than usual next season. Shawn Springs will be gone. CP may be gone. There will be a cap hit to release Brandon Lloyd. Some high profile vets [Samuels?] may choose not to restructure their contracts and could be traded or released.

So, the Skins could be forced to mine the undrafted free-agent market -- again. But what they [I]need[/I] is elite talent, like Haynesworth, and the cap room to sign them.

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Portis isn't going anywhere. His release fee for 2008 would be nearly $9M.

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Looks like the Jets have their eyes on him. He won't hit the open market, he's a great talent but his price tag will be way too high.

[URL="http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/AFC/AFC+East/NY+Jets/WWHI/2007/wwhi122107.htm"]NY Jets - Pro Football Weekly[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Slingin Sammy 33;395740]Looks like the Jets have their eyes on him. He won't hit the open market, he's a great talent but his price tag will be way too high.

[URL="http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/AFC/AFC+East/NY+Jets/WWHI/2007/wwhi122107.htm"]NY Jets - Pro Football Weekly[/URL][/QUOTE]

Everyone has there eye on him he is a beast we have AM & KG but it won't hurt to rotate the three I say go after him.

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Screw it. Take him.

I've always liked the guys with the 'I'll rip off your helmet and stomp on your face' attitude.

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[quote=Beemnseven;395766]Screw it. Take him.

I've always liked the guys with the 'I'll rip off your helmet and stomp on your face' attitude.[/quote]
Especially if it's a Cowboy face getting stomped....maybe we should try to get him.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;395448]There are talks about Albert Haynesworth test the FA market this off season he has had on-field & off-field the problem but he is a pro bowl Defensive lineman & makes a difference when he not in the lineup. Risk or Reward? If he does test the market would you pick him as a GM share your thoughts?[/quote]

This guy is a thug. He has a history of stepping on peoples faces. Plus I don't think we need a DT. We need a DE. No thanks!

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[quote=skinsfan69;395778]This guy is a thug. He has a history of stepping on peoples faces. Plus I don't think we need a DT. We need a DE. No thanks![/quote]

1 incident != (DOES NOT EQUAL) history.

please provide links if i'm misinformed.

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[quote=Master4Caster;395713]

Cap room is a factor and the Redskins may be in even worse shape than usual next season. Shawn Springs will be gone. CP may be gone. There will be a cap hit to release Brandon Lloyd. Some high profile vets [Samuels?] may choose not to restructure their contracts and could be traded or released.

So, the Skins could be forced to mine the undrafted free-agent market -- again. But what they [I]need[/I] is elite talent, like Haynesworth, and the cap room to sign them.[/quote]
You listen to Peter King too much. Next year's team will be very similar to this year's with a few minor exceptions. The biggest offseason change will probably be wr or backup qb(s).

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I Live here in Nashville area and He is a quality guy!
he is a reward but may be too rich for our blood!

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Here's a guy worth looking at, he might come at a reasonable price.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3165884]ESPN - Colbert's knee injury latest in decline during tenure with Panthers - NFL[/url]