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Redskin Warrior 12-23-2007 11:34 PM

Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
I think so that really sealed the deal to me.

MTK 12-23-2007 11:36 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
No doubt a GREAT call to challenge that. At first I was like what the hell are they challenging?? And then when they showed 12 men on the field I was like oh snap Gibbs!

Hog's Breath 12-23-2007 11:38 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
Yeah, that was just brilliant. I don't think I've ever seen anything close to that.

wilsowilso 12-23-2007 11:39 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
Yes. But Gibbs was way up in the first place.

WaldSkins 12-23-2007 11:40 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
no. that call costs us the game, it made that 51 yard attempt a chip shot, we were up by 11 when he made the call. yea this was a GREAT call but that double timeout was the dumbest coachin mistake ive ever seen

Paintrain 12-23-2007 11:42 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
No because we were up 11 points at the time and who knows what Minny would have done with the ball vs. it being a definite game changing decision.. Also, if the Buf. kicker had attempted another 51 yarder and missed we'd be in the playoffs tonight rather than having to wait on next week..

It was a great challenge though..

FRPLG 12-23-2007 11:42 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
Brilliant. I guess the Old Man has some marbles left after all.

NinjaLink 12-23-2007 11:43 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
It made up for the double timeout call. I don't care about the Bills game. That is in the past. We are looking to control our destiny for the future!

wilsowilso 12-23-2007 11:44 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
I love the Redskins.

Daseal 12-23-2007 11:44 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
It was a great call, but it wasn't as great as bad as the double TO was in Buffalo.

Redskin Warrior 12-23-2007 11:45 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
I Forgive Him!!! Gotta Love Gibbs Right Now!!!

12thMan 12-23-2007 11:48 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
12th Man rules.

skinsnut 12-23-2007 11:49 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
Yes it absolutely did...though I was bummed about the buffalo call...Taylor just died...and they would have lost anyways...this call was beautiful....only one that was better was when westbrook decided not to score last week at the 1 to run out the clock

hurrykaine 12-23-2007 11:52 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
I don't think that makes up for the assanine mistake against Buffalo, but it was a pretty darn cool challenge that took momentum away from the Vikes and sealed a victory.

Kudos to Gibbs. Way to get the team motivated after the loss to Buffalo. Last 3 games have been pretty comprehensive victories for us. Collins has been solid and the D has been pretty good as well.

724Skinsfan 12-23-2007 11:58 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
The Buffalo call didn't guarantee that Buffalo would have missed the FG, nor did challenging today mean that Minnesota was definitely going to continue scoring to take the lead.

redskinsfanatic 12-23-2007 11:58 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
i think that play,and tonight's challenge were complete decisions by the whole coaching staff and not just gibbs!i'm still pissed about that bullshit call tonight with sellers though!

mheisig 12-23-2007 11:59 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
That sealed the game right there. It was pretty tense until that whole thing got resolved, after that I knew we had this thing bagged.

Gibbsmeatitle#1 12-24-2007 12:00 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
[QUOTE=wilsowilso;396689]I love the Redskins.[/QUOTE]

Ditto dude.

Texanskin 12-24-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
Bills game happened right after Taylor's death so NO ONE was thinking properly during that time. BUT....today......He saved OUR SEASON

SouperMeister 12-24-2007 12:09 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
For all the grief that the national media gave Gibbs after trying to ice the Buffalo kicker twice, the media needs to point out the brilliance of this challenge. Retaining posession and punching it in for a TD pretty well clinched the game. Kudos to Gibbs for holding the team together through unbelievable adversity and coaching one of his finest games with everything on the line.

estrella117 12-24-2007 01:02 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
It didn't but it was a big momentum shift and that call to me sealed there fate.

SouperMeister 12-24-2007 01:05 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
The Buffalo timeout snafu was overblown IMO. Their kicker would have nailed that 2nd kick from 55 as well as he hit that ball.

skinsfan_nn 12-24-2007 01:08 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
Great call for the GREAT COACH!

What a GREAT X-MAS gift from my beloved REDSKINS! ONE MORE TIME.....Before the dance starts!

IMO there is not a better coach in the entire league that we could have at the helm.

HOGTIMUS PRIME 12-24-2007 03:51 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
I didn't think you could challenge something like that? Are you allowed to challenge a penalty as well? My assumption at the time was if the ref's missed it to bad. It helped make up for that ridiculous challenge earlier in the game when they took a TD away from Sellars, I am still waiting to see a conclusive replay that actually shows him not in, and to actually over turn the call on the field from anything I saw was a joke.

GTripp0012 12-24-2007 04:18 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
Instant Replay is still stupid because the trust is that a limited amount of camera angles can dispute an unlimited amount of visual angles from the field.

I mean, it's good when calls get blatently missed, but how often does that happen? For every blatent missed call that gets corrected, you have five Mike Sellers plays.

Very adamently, I say, instant replay must go.

dmek25 12-24-2007 06:03 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
gtripp, instant relay is here to stay. i think it was voted on to remain permanent at the last owners meetings. as for the challenge, one word. brilliant. i hope it comes out who made that call. and it was done very fast, too. does everyone here think that Santana Moss was in bounds? i say he dragged his back foot, making it a catch

T.O.Killa 12-24-2007 08:28 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
As far as I can see, Joe Gibbs has totaly redeemed himself. Yeah the double time out was bad, but this is the most incredible turn around I have ever seen from the Redskins. When we lost to Buffalo for the first time I was wanting Joe to resign, now he is a GD genious in my mind.

redsk1 12-24-2007 09:13 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
Was that Moss catch not a catch? It looked like a catch to me. I know the skins didn't know immediately but it looked good...right?

12thMan 12-24-2007 09:26 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
[quote=redsk1;396861]Was that Moss catch not a catch? It looked like a catch to me. I know the skins didn't know immediately but it looked good...right?[/quote]

It looked like it was going to get overturned, actually.

BrudLee 12-24-2007 09:28 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;396659]No doubt a GREAT call to challenge that. At first I was like what the hell are they challenging?? And then when they showed 12 men on the field I was like oh snap Gibbs![/QUOTE]

You said "oh snap Gibbs"? Hitting the holiday spirits a little hard last night, were you?

Superb challenge. I don't know where it came from, but someone made a great call.

Beemnseven 12-24-2007 09:33 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
12 men on the field is one of the rare plays that can be challenged even if the officials didn't originally catch it.

In my local paper today, Gibbs was quoted as saying that "a bunch of guys in the booth" were saying that the Vikings had 12 men on the field, so the credit has to go to the staff in the booth for catching it. Gibbs doesn't have access to the equipment necessary to spot it himself.

So I would say that if anyone atoned for the blunder against Buffalo, it's the staff in the booth who didn't inform Gibbs of the double-timeout rule. They made up for that last night in a big way.

724Skinsfan 12-24-2007 09:40 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
Childress complained of having to be allowed to substitute players. Madden, I think, said as long as the offense substitutes a person then the Defense can sub in as well. During the quick snap/fumble/12-man-on-the-field play, did the Redskins sub in a player? I don't think so but I didn't record the game to check.

LBrown43 12-24-2007 09:47 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
I think both calls were not his initally. Obviously someone in the booth saw the 12th man and brought it to his attention. As far as the time out, I don't know for sure (and am sure you guys will let me know) but I can't believe Joe would make that kind of a mistake. He took the heat but just can't believe he would make that kind of a mistake.
I am with a previous poster...the Buffalo game is in the past. Last nights challenge took the wind out of the Vikings sails and locked up a game for the ages against the Cow-wussies.

onlydarksets 12-24-2007 10:29 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
The TO call was definitely his - he owned it in the presser after the Bills game. No chance this challenge was his call (someone else obviously noticed the extra player running off the field), but I'll give him credit for getting it out there quickly.

Coff 12-24-2007 10:37 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
[quote=wilsowilso;396689]I love the Redskins.[/quote]

Best point I've ever seen made on The Warpath!

MTK 12-24-2007 11:05 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
[quote=724Skinsfan;396881]Childress complained of having to be allowed to substitute players. Madden, I think, said as long as the offense substitutes a person then the Defense can sub in as well. During the quick snap/fumble/12-man-on-the-field play, did the Redskins sub in a player? I don't think so but I didn't record the game to check.[/quote]

The Skins didn't sub.

EternalEnigma21 12-24-2007 11:17 AM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
then there is an illegal substitution, which is still a penalty, but I don't know if it's challenge-able.... maybe that was what he was arguing.

Whether it atoned for the past miscue or not, it was a beautiful call that completely deflated our opponent. You could see the frustration all over their sideline and it was one of those challenges that quickly switched the momentum back to us and gave us a second breath.

we really stuck it in their ass and broke it off, didn't we:spank:

Redskin Warrior 12-24-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
[QUOTE=Beemnseven;396878]12 men on the field is one of the rare plays that can be challenged even if the officials didn't originally catch it.

In my local paper today, Gibbs was quoted as saying that "a bunch of guys in the booth" were saying that the Vikings had 12 men on the field, so the credit has to go to the staff in the booth for catching it. Gibbs doesn't have access to the equipment necessary to spot it himself.

So I would say that if anyone atoned for the blunder against Buffalo, it's the staff in the booth who didn't inform Gibbs of the double-timeout rule. They made up for that last night in a big way.[/QUOTE]

I figured he got help from the booth but it was in his hands to make that call & throw that red flag. Big props to the booth & gibbs.

Jesse E. Timmons 12-24-2007 04:19 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
gibbs had nothing to do with the call, he just did what he was told, and looked lost as he usually does these days.

wolfeskins 12-25-2007 02:01 PM

Re: Did Gibbs 12-Man Challenge Make Up 4 The Timeout In Buffalo?
 
[quote=onlydarksets;396903]The TO call was definitely his - he owned it in the presser after the Bills game. No chance this challenge was his call (someone else obviously noticed the extra player running off the field), but I'll give him credit for getting it out there quickly.[/quote]


anytime something goes wrong, like an extra timeout or bad clock management or a bad decision on a play call or an attempted fiel goal or whatever, who always gets blamed? Gibbs does, sometimes deservedly so but sometimes undeservedly, so i say he should get all the credit for throwing the red flag to challenge the 12 men on the field, if people are gonna blame him for all the bad things, then those same people need to praise him for the good things.


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