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dieselhog 08-10-2004 06:51 AM

Sean Taylor's Performance
 
Sounds like Sean had a monster game - I haven't seen it - how was he?

Also, notice our game breakers (Coles aside) all have 6 on their jerseys?

Portis- 26 ...... Lavar - 56 ...... Taylor - 36

just a thought.

Luxorreb 08-10-2004 06:59 AM

Sean Taylor played extremely well.
2 picks and a TD.
Enough said really.
-Shawn Springs surprised me with his pick and hopefully it'll scare some teams away.
-Coles and Bailey battled on 1 play and w/ a slight overthrow Bailey kept Coles from making a play.
-Sultan 'The Chainsaw' McCoullough looked like a solid backup as Rock Cartwright didn't seem to get it going.
-Gibbs staff looked poised and showed promise for a good run this season and next. Watching all the penalties and errors.
Wishing Jansen a speedy recovery, but this will defintely affect our OL. Glad it happenned now for Bugel to adjust otherwise it might have been to late.
Good Skins win for morale of coaches and players. Next game on Saturday!!!

Daseal 08-10-2004 07:43 AM

IM almost worried if we win a game against the Cowboys that old white haired guy will just fall over dead. Doesnt look like he can handle much excitement.

Taylor just displaced Andre Lott imo. Taylor looks really large on TV. I wasn't expecting him to look that big. Didnt get a closeup of him during camp either though.

Beemnseven 08-10-2004 08:06 AM

...Yeah, Sean Taylor should officially move past Andre Lott into the first team.

...Was it just me, or did Joe Gibbs at times look as if he wondered what he'd gotten himself back into?

...I noticed the 26-36-56 jersey thing too. Too bad #76 won't be a part of that sequence this year.

...Cornelius Griffin looked pretty good at times and broke into the backfield. The pocket seemed to collapse frequently when the starters were in. Overall, it did not appear that the defensive line, judging only from last night mind you, would be the problem we all thought it would be. But it's a long season.

...Offensive production is a concern. Brunell, 4 for 8 and 18 yards? Come on, I know they've only been in camp for a little over a week, but still, the running game never really got on track, and the wideouts never really were a factor. Obviously, they need more reps.

...Actually, I don't necessarily want teams to be afraid of Shawn Springs. Teams were afraid of Champ Bailey, and the downside of that is we didn't see as many interceptions. This team desperately needs to get into the plus column of the turnover ratio. Hopefully, Springs, Smoot, Taylor and Bowen will help us get there.

rickmmrr 08-10-2004 08:06 AM

Taylor definitly has a nose for the ball and he did look big out there. It was fun to watch.

jbcjr14 08-10-2004 08:16 AM

[QUOTE=Beemnseven]...Yeah, Sean Taylor should officially move past Andre Lott into the first team.

...Was it just me, or did Joe Gibbs at times look as if he wondered what he'd gotten himself back into?

...I noticed the 26-36-56 jersey thing too. Too bad #76 won't be a part of that sequence this year.

...Cornelius Griffin looked pretty good at times and broke into the backfield. The pocket seemed to collapse frequently when the starters were in. Overall, it did not appear that the defensive line, judging only from last night mind you, would be the problem we all thought it would be. But it's a long season.

...Offensive production is a concern. Brunell, 4 for 8 and 18 yards? Come on, I know they've only been in camp for a little over a week, but still, the running game never really got on track, and the wideouts never really were a factor. Obviously, they need more reps.

...Actually, I don't necessarily want teams to be afraid of Shawn Springs. Teams were afraid of Champ Bailey, and the downside of that is we didn't see as many interceptions. This team desperately needs to get into the plus column of the turnover ratio. Hopefully, Springs, Smoot, Taylor and Bowen will help us get there.[/QUOTE]

In regards to the DLINE....were you watching the same game? Gaping holes for Griffin to run through for 45 yards on the first team defense. They are going to have some problems stopping the run!!!!

Beemnseven 08-10-2004 08:26 AM

[QUOTE=jbcjr14]In regards to the DLINE....were you watching the same game? Gaping holes for Griffin to run through for 45 yards on the first team defense. They are going to have some problems stopping the run!!!![/QUOTE]

Yes, I did see Griffin break off a few long runs. On both of those plays, the area just beyond the line of scrimmage was wide open. No linebackers or safeties in sight. It looked to me as if the defense wasn't even expecting a run, maybe they were thinking pass.

I was speaking more in terms of QB pressure and collapsing the pocket. Not every single play of course, but more so than what we saw last season.

But yes, I agree that the run defense needs to get much more stout. Remember though, other than Griffin and Daniels, no one on the coaching staff or front office thought it extremely necessary to address the defensive tackle position or our overall ability at stopping the run.

cpayne5 08-10-2004 08:36 AM

[QUOTE=Daseal]Taylor just displaced Andre Lott imo. Taylor looks really large on TV. I wasn't expecting him to look that big. Didnt get a closeup of him during camp either though.[/QUOTE]

I thought the same thing. He looks like a monster, with speed :D

illdefined 08-10-2004 08:47 AM

[QUOTE=jbcjr14]In regards to the DLINE....were you watching the same game? Gaping holes for Griffin to run through for 45 yards on the first team defense. They are going to have some problems stopping the run!!!![/QUOTE]

said it before, its cuz we were blitzing every down. now you know what happens when you send your best assets (LBs) on defense in to do the DLines job...

memphisskin 08-10-2004 09:31 AM

Taylor is a monster. As soon as he came in he put a pop on a running back. Lott was ok (where was Ohalete?) but Taylor was everywhere, and he made his presence known. Fantastic because I told my cousin (an Eagles fan) before the game that Taylor was going to get one.

Oh and to continue the 6's, don't forget Cornelius Griffin #96. He flushed Jake Plummer on the pass that Springs picked off.

SmootSmack 08-10-2004 09:37 AM

And it was #16 (Jafar Willams) who had the big catch that led to #6's (Ola Kimrin) game winning field goal....cue the twilight zone music

BrunellFan 08-10-2004 09:49 AM

Taylor's performance should move him ahead of Lott on the depth chart, period.

Gmanc711 08-10-2004 10:33 AM

Ohelete is really slippin down the d-charts.

bridaman51 08-10-2004 10:33 AM

Taylor not only looked huge but he is. When i first saw him i was like man that is a big safety and then he picked that pass off in the endzone (nice catch) and then the one were he just flat out showed his speed to swip the ball in front of the receiver for the TD defenitely showed how agile and capable he is in playing. The other thing that impressed me with his size was when he stood next to lavar on the sidelines late in the game, He looked to be about that same size like they were brought from the same mold.

People can say what they want about this KID, and i stress kid cause he will make the kid mistakes, but he looked as if he can flat out play this game and I really beleive he is going to be a force in that secondary....

MTK 08-10-2004 10:38 AM

Taylor has been pretty quiet with the media, but he sure let his play speak for himself last night. It couldn't have been a better debut for him.

d151b 08-10-2004 10:46 AM

In all honesty, the D-line suprised me. I thought they were going to be just horrible, but they actually did a great job. I saw them do things in this game that I haven't seen from our d-line in quite some time. They were doing their job and doing it well... shooting the gap, getting pressure up the middle and off the ends. Trust me, I taped the game and went back and watched it again. As for what Quentin Griffin did, ... he will do that to every team all season long. He is built in the same mold as barry sanders and will have a similar career. I've followed him all throughout college and he's gonna be bad @ss in the pros. The guy can squat 800 lbs. He has the balance and vision....... Denver won't miss Portis all that much.

memphisskin 08-10-2004 11:10 AM

[QUOTE=d151b]In all honesty, the D-line suprised me. I thought they were going to be just horrible, but they actually did a great job. I saw them do things in this game that I haven't seen from our d-line in quite some time. They were doing their job and doing it well... shooting the gap, getting pressure up the middle and off the ends. Trust me, I taped the game and went back and watched it again. As for what Quentin Griffin did, ... he will do that to every team all season long. He is built in the same mold as barry sanders and will have a similar career. I've followed him all throughout college and he's gonna be bad @ss in the pros. The guy can squat 800 lbs. He has the balance and vision....... Denver won't miss Portis all that much.[/QUOTE]

I thought the d line did pretty good too. They were creating pressure on their own, and even kept Denver out of the end zone until late in the game. I like what I saw, especially out of Marcus Washington and Sean Taylor.

Cush 08-10-2004 11:22 AM

[QUOTE=d151b]In all honesty, the D-line suprised me. I thought they were going to be just horrible, but they actually did a great job. I saw them do things in this game that I haven't seen from our d-line in quite some time. They were doing their job and doing it well... shooting the gap, getting pressure up the middle and off the ends. Trust me, I taped the game and went back and watched it again. As for what Quentin Griffin did, ... he will do that to every team all season long. He is built in the same mold as barry sanders and will have a similar career. I've followed him all throughout college and he's gonna be bad @ss in the pros. The guy can squat 800 lbs. He has the balance and vision....... Denver won't miss Portis all that much.[/QUOTE]

I thought they did a good job against the pass, but they still had problems against the run

Bozzy 08-10-2004 11:45 AM

Yeah, and put those 6's together and you get the sign of the devil! ooooooh! lol

kingerock 08-10-2004 12:24 PM

I think having 1 week of training camp under the belt we looked great. Pass protection, front 4 collapsing the pocket on passing downs, great play from the secondary. Washington (SLB) moves so quick! Taylor was incredible. Still want to see more from the offense, but what can you expect with the 1st team in and out that fast and only 1 week of training camp. It's good to see Tim do well and know we have 3 good QBs that can play the system well. Can't wait to see this team once it's a well greased machine!

redrock-skins 08-10-2004 12:55 PM

That was a fine performance by Taylor. After hearing all the side stories and "this and that" about Taylor, it was nice to see him just go out there and play well. I really don't care what he thinks about his contract. If he plays more like this, he will be rewarded even more down the road.

That Guy 08-10-2004 02:28 PM

imagine if taylor plays an entire game that way :D, he could break the int/season record easily lol. yeah yeah, preseason, 1st string went in and out quickly etc...

RedskinPete 08-10-2004 02:35 PM

Taylor is he that good?
 
I have to say one thing....... He looks bigger then everbody around him. Just think when he really gets what is going on he will make this look easy. We haven't seen him put on a great hit yet! I see us not remembering who Champ who was and see Tayor becoming a great Redskins and a Pro bowler! :biggthump PS Winslow still is at home!

sportscurmudgeon 08-10-2004 03:22 PM

Taylor's second INT for the TD was an outstanding play.

His first INT was a pass that should never have been thrown and probably will not be thrown by any 1st string QBs. It was a deep pass to a man that was double covered and it was underthrown. Yes he made a good play on the ball, but if he gets another one like that this year he should be most thankful.

The D-Line still stinks.

Linebacking was very solid. Tackling was much better than last season.

Derrick Dockery is still fat and slow. He cannot bet to the corner to block for Portis because Portis would have to tie his shoe to wait for Dockery to get there. Bugel might teach him pass protection technique and drive blocking technique, but unless Bugel can put wings on his feet, this guy is LIMITED.

Rock Cartwright is a special teams player at best on a top shelf team.

Neither Brunell nor Ramsey seemed comfortable in the passing offense.

There is still LOTS of work to do.

jasonskin 08-10-2004 03:46 PM

Cant wait to see Taylor in with the starters.

Riggo44 08-10-2004 04:07 PM

Taylor looked great! I was glad that our D-line played ok!

kingerock 08-10-2004 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]Taylor's second INT for the TD was an outstanding play.

His first INT was a pass that should never have been thrown and probably will not be thrown by any 1st string QBs. It was a deep pass to a man that was double covered and it was underthrown. Yes he made a good play on the ball, but if he gets another one like that this year he should be most thankful.
QUOTE]

I think you'll see McNabb do it, because he always does it if you go back and watch past games. Warner will make some bad reads as well under Coughlin's system which isn't a timing system but more a read and react system. Testeverde puts alot of air under his passes and that's all Taylor needs to get react and get to the ball.

jdlea 08-10-2004 04:50 PM

The D Line did get a push I didn't much expect. They were suspect against the run and as fast as our LBs are, they were no match for the speed of Quentin Griffin. I think our defense will be fine, I'm sure there was a lot of miscommunication that comes from only having really been playing together for about a week. If they are still leaving huge holes like that in week 3, then I'll worry.

Redskins8588 08-10-2004 06:26 PM

Has anyone read the Boswell article on washingtonpost.com?

I like how he had to kinda eat his own words on Taylor, "Seldom, if ever, has a high Redskins draft pick -- No. 5 overall, in this case -- announced his appearance so emphatically. Taylor can fire all the agents he wants if this night was an indication of his ability."

I like how Taylor just let his playing do the talking for himself. That is just cool...

MTK 08-10-2004 10:21 PM

I heard a guy on espn radio today and he said Taylor definitely shut up the media with his play last night, also said that he really needed that kind of performance. The heat the media was putting on him should cool off considerably.

aehs77 08-10-2004 11:33 PM

what really impressed me about taylors second interception was his disipline most safetys would have made the hit and not gone for the ball. not to mention that was an amazing read

NY_Skinsfan 08-10-2004 11:53 PM

When was the last time the Redskins had three interceptions in a game? I know it's preseason but, if it's any indication of what's to follow then it's gonna be fun to watch...Seeing Taylor in the endzone after the first interception, I was shocked at his size...I knew he was big but, damn.

Does anyone remember that play when Shockey bowled over a player...he caught the ball and turned down field and leveled some dude for a big gain...can't remember if it was last season or the one before...It was all over the highlight reels here in NY.

I'd like to see Shockey try that against Taylor...I guarantee a different result.

SUNRA 08-11-2004 12:02 AM

There are very few players that I can recall to have a lasting impression on my current favorite player list. Lavar Arrington is 1#, Fred Smoot 2# and Sean Taylor is 3#. I thought Sean Taylor was a linebacker when he practiced on Fan Day in training camp. He's big, fast and just the kind of defensive player we needed in the NFC. What he showed us last night is that he is versatile. He can play cornerback or slide over to Strong Safety. Ohalete and Bowen can't compete for this position with what Taylor brings to the table. He is the Redskins, what Roy Williams is to the Cowgirls.

SUNRA 08-11-2004 12:10 AM

Ohalete allowed the touchdown with under two minutes remaining in the fourth. Oh well, Out with old in with new.

offiss 08-11-2004 01:17 AM

Taylor showed exactly what I have been screaming about before the draft, he has the instict's to be an all time great, I don't think we will see a lot of highlight hit's from him ala Roy William's, or a ronnie lott type hit, he is more instictive then both, he will go after the ball, rather than the reciever, which is much more important, interception's win games, but every once in a while he will let a reciever know he's there, no doubt, and level him.

NY_Skinsfan 08-11-2004 01:38 AM

i agree offiss...how nice would it be for his first highlight hit to be in week 4 laying out the newly signed "soldier" winslow.

SKINSnCANES 08-11-2004 03:33 AM

[QUOTE=NY_Skinsfan]When was the last time the Redskins had three interceptions in a game? I know it's preseason but, if it's any indication of what's to follow then it's gonna be fun to watch...Seeing Taylor in the endzone after the first interception, I was shocked at his size...I knew he was big but, damn.

Does anyone remember that play when Shockey bowled over a player...he caught the ball and turned down field and leveled some dude for a big gain...can't remember if it was last season or the one before...It was all over the highlight reels here in NY.

I'd like to see Shockey try that against Taylor...I guarantee a different result.[/QUOTE]

it was two years ago, in his rookie season. Shockey is still a beast though when hes healthy. The main concern for shockey is going to be if he has a qb that can get him the ball. if hes got a rookie back there he might be tackling taylor instead of taylor tackling him.

Riggo44 09-08-2004 09:19 PM

He is going to be rookie of the yr!!


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