Chad Johnson?
 

Just wondering your thoughts on this. Since a big type of wide reciever would be nice for the Skins, could Chad Johnson find his way into a Redskins uniform?

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With Gibbs gone maybe. Gibbs wouldn't put up with his all about me attitude.

I personally would like to see him play for us. Big strong QB, big strong receiver, to hell with Brady and Moss.

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I posted this on another thread.....

[IMG]http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/507/ochocincooa4.jpg[/IMG]

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Just like every other "name" out there, probably going to cost too much for us this year.

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yea, i just don't see how we can afford it. I know, it is said every year...

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I'd love to see it. He's the only primadonna receiver that I actually like.

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He's too much of a hotheaded "Me first" player for my taste. IMO he's T.O. light. Besides, we'd have to trade for him and I don't think it's wise to give up picks for a guy like him. Does anyone know how old he is?

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;404585]He's too much of a hotheaded "Me first" player for my taste. IMO he's T.O. light. Besides, we'd have to trade for him and I don't think it's wise to give up picks for a guy like him. Does anyone know how old he is?[/quote]

CJ turns 30 tomorrow.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;404611]CJ turns 30 tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

That's another reason not to trade for him.

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[quote=Redskins_P;404570]I posted this on another thread.....

[IMG]http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/507/ochocincooa4.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Is this real or a photoshopped picture?

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I believe that picture is real and it was taken last offseason.

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I threw out Javon Walker & people here had good reasons we shouldn't trade for him. I already have an opinion of CJ & I don't think he's a good fit here, even w/Gibbs gone. The chemistry that's been established here is fragile & doesn't need a guy like that to taint it.

He is still a top wr though, can't deny his ability & work ethic. I just think he's become more of a problem & might continue to do so here.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;404611]CJ turns 30 tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

30 isn't a horrible age for WR like it is for RB.

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[quote=dgreen;404675]30 isn't a horrible age for WR like it is for RB.[/quote]but do you pay a 30 year old WR top free agent money at that position? I say hell no. Knowing what we know about Johnson, he won't be open to anything less than top dollar.

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[QUOTE=SouperMeister;404681]but do you pay a 30 year old WR top free agent money at that position? I say hell no. Knowing what we know about Johnson, he won't be open to anything less than top dollar.[/QUOTE]

Redskins typically give out 3-year contracts. They are technically like 5, 6, or 7-year deals, but they are designed to be restructured or cut after 3 years. So, you are only signing him to what amounts to a 3-year deal. I have no doubt that CJ can produce like a top WR the next three years. So, whether he's 25 or 30 really isn't a big deal to me.

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[QUOTE=saden1;404615]Is this real or a photoshopped picture?[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I'm not sure. It was emailed to me this morning.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;404613]That's another reason not to trade for him.[/QUOTE]

We wouldn't have to trade for him the word is the Bengals might release him.

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[QUOTE=Redskin Warrior;404742]We wouldn't have to trade for him the word is the Bengals might release him.[/QUOTE]

Really? From where? I can't imagine anyone letting go of anyone of that caliber without any compensation.

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I'm not the biggest CJ fan, because of his ego. However, many prima donna wide receivers have had a change of heart after finding new homes. Don't know if its worth the risk though

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too big of a move, lets keep some stability, no huge name signings, especially when we would have to yet again sacrifice draft picks

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;404744]Really? From where? I can't imagine anyone letting go of anyone of that caliber without any compensation.[/QUOTE]

Well that what was said not sure if will actually happen tho. I think they are gonna clean house Palmer is fed up with the B.S. & I'm pretty sure CJ attitude will change in a new home anything is better than the Bengals franchise right now.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;404744]Really? From where? I can't imagine anyone letting go of anyone of that caliber without any compensation.[/QUOTE]

Those are the rumors I have heard as well, although I am afraid I don't have a source. I am sure they will dangle him as trade bait but I doubt anyone will spring.

Well I agree we shouldn't give up picks for him if he is a free agent I would love to see us go after him. He reminds more of Moss than TO as a malcontent in that his petulance comes more from losing than from not getting enough attention or catches, imo. And he's a young, spry 30 with a couple probowl years left.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here... but I think if we can figure out a reasonable means to get him... we absolutely should.

He's a proven playmaker, and I think he would fit in great with our other receivers and personalities. I just don't think it's going to be possible to trade for him.

We just don't have the ammo...

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For all you thinking that he's a big WR, he's only 6'1" and 192lbs. That's not big at all. I say no...I'd rather take a chance on Mix.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/chadjohnson/profile?id=JOH104425]Chad Johnson[/url]

The guy is elite.

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We need Defenseive linemen... and Ed Reed

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[quote=RobH4413;404840][URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/chadjohnson/profile?id=JOH104425"]Chad Johnson[/URL]

The guy is elite.[/quote]

Ill admit it, he has put up impressive numbers, and a tandem of him and moss would be similar to the likes of wayne and harrison, so any money invested in him would be well worth it. I would be all for the redskins getting him, but I just very much doubt that is going to happen. We will never be able to afford him.

At 30 he may be entering the last "elite" years of his career, and there is no way he is gonna take a paycut after putting up the most rec yards of his career this season, especially not to receive the passes of the unproven arms of JC and TC. Im not saying neither could help him produce the big numbers he is accustomed to, because Im sure they could, but I doubt CJ sees it that way.

So, this team doesn't have the cap space, and WR is in no way a position of need for us right now. For all of you that want to dream about CJ coming here, have your fun, but it makes very little sense. Sure, it would be really really cool, but so would picking up a elite DE, and that would be much more practical.

But hey, Gibbs is gone, Danny is back at the helm, Fuck practicality. What has it brought us? Two playoff appearances in three years . . . A young talented team with a lot of potential . . . A winning record in the best division of the NFL with the second hardest schedule . . . whoopty-fuckin-do. Where are the headlines? The big name FA signings? The QB controversies, and sideline antics? That is the Redskins we know and love isn't it? No? Well, at least thats the way you build dynasty, right?

IMO, lets concentrate on keeping some continuity on this team in the wake of Gibb's departure, and learn from the PATs and wait on blockbuster trades and FA signings until we have a few Super Bowls under our belt.

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[QUOTE=WillH;404856]Ill admit it, he has put up impressive numbers, and a tandem of him and moss would be similar to the likes of wayne and harrison, so any money invested in him would be well worth it. I would be all for the redskins getting him, but I just very much doubt that is going to happen. We will never be able to afford him.

At 30 he may be entering the last "elite" years of his career, and there is no way he is gonna take a paycut after putting up the most rec yards of his career this season, especially not to receive the passes of the unproven arms of JC and TC. Im not saying neither could help him produce the big numbers he is accustomed to, because Im sure they could, but I doubt CJ sees it that way.

So, this team doesn't have the cap space, and WR is in no way a position of need for us right now. For all of you that want to dream about CJ coming here, have your fun, but it makes very little sense. Sure, it would be really really cool, but so would picking up a elite DE, and that would be much more practical.

But hey, Gibbs is gone, Danny is back at the helm, Fuck practicality. What has it brought us? Two playoff appearances in three years . . . A young talented team with a lot of potential . . . A winning record in the best division of the NFL with the second hardest schedule . . . whoopty-fuckin-do. Where are the headlines? The big name FA signings? The QB controversies, and sideline antics? That is the Redskins we know and love isn't it? No? Well, at least thats the way you build dynasty, right?

IMO, lets concentrate on keeping some continuity on this team in the wake of Gibb's departure, [B]and learn from the PATs and wait on blockbuster trades and FA signings until we have a few Super Bowls under our belt[/B].[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the Pats didn't improve their team with any free agent signings this year. Oh wait, that's exactly what they did, making the biggest splash last offseason.

The problem with this team in the past hasn't been signing free agents, it has been signing bad free agents and mortaging drafts for older non-impact players. Just because Deion Sanders and Brandon Lloyd busted out doesn't mean we should never sign another free agent player again. I mean, London Fletcher and Fred Smoot didn't exactly destroy our defensive continuity last year did they?

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[quote=djnemo65;404869]Yeah, the Pats didn't improve their team with any free agent signings this year. Oh wait, that's exactly what they did, making the biggest splash last offseason.

The problem with this team in the past hasn't been signing free agents, it has been signing bad free agents and mortaging drafts for older non-impact players. Just because Deion Sanders and Brandon Lloyd busted out doesn't mean we should never sign another free agent player again. I mean, London Fletcher and Fred Smoot didn't exactly destroy our defensive continuity last year did they?[/quote]

Sorry, I must not have made myself clear enough. In fact you inadvertently made my point. What I meant to say is not that we shouldn't be signing free agents, but that we can't afford to sign big name FAs to top dollar contracts. Practical signings are indeed a must to build a good team, but if you will notice the Pats didn't make that big FA splash until after they had built a solid foundation, a proven one at that. One with multiple Super Bowl rings. We need to make smart, economically sound signings, and then, once we have a solid, proven, super bowl winning team, then maybe we can go after the Chad Johnsons and Randy Moss's so that we can break some records of our own.

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getting chad johnson is a bigger signing and a lot more expensive than getting fletcher or smoot...not really comparable imo

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[QUOTE=tdSKINS1;404563]Just wondering your thoughts on this. Since a big type of wide reciever would be nice for the Skins, could Chad Johnson find his way into a Redskins uniform?[/QUOTE]

That's all we need is a head case wide reciever.....

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;404776]I'm not the biggest CJ fan, because of his ego. However, many prima donna wide receivers have had a change of heart after finding new homes. Don't know if its worth the risk though[/QUOTE]
Thats what people have said about Randy Moss and Terrell Owens. And their new teams took chances with them and they had amazing results. If he's relatively cheap, i would take the chance...

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those two examples also show how huge of an impact a dynamic wideout can have on an offense.

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I'd love to have a big time WR like him, but I don't see it happening.

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[quote=WaldSkins;404888]Thats what people have said about Randy Moss and Terrell Owens. And their new teams took chances with them and they had amazing results. If he's relatively cheap, i would take the chance...[/quote]

CJ maybe a distraction but not the negative type that rips apart team cohesion. If he opts out of his final year he will not come cheap because he knows a lot of teams are going to come knocking on his [agents] door.

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Two words concerning 30+ premadonna Wideouts.....Randy Moss.

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i think its asmall chance, but i'd like to have him.

moss and TO are older, and both put up crazy stats this year. none of them look like they're done yet either.

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i'd say what the hell.. take the shot at him who knows what could happen

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Out of all the big WR which are decent I like him the best. He reminds me of a taller Portis. In Denver Portis was outlandish and outspoken. Heck he still is here. He is respectfull about it though. I could see CJ here and I bet he would fit in well with the other 30 somethings. lol. It would be nice to have a big rookie WR but he would have to adjust to the speed and routes. CJ has been in the league. He wants out of Cinci. He knows this offense is a passing offense. He has the speed of the game down and will be able to learn a new offense quicker then a rookie. Although I would like to see us draft a big rookie also to develope under CJ or perhaps Mix is that character.

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Chad Johnsons is a baller but he's going on 30, will require $$$, and he still has to have a good QB throwing to him to be effective.